SmarterThanTheAverageBear
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Has been claimed every time the minimum wage is increased.Wow you come up with that all on your own?True enough House, but that won't work in our nation. For one very simple reason.
We will NEVER just allow people to starve to death, I mean as in our government won't. Welfare is never going away. It may change , and adjust , but no one who ever wants to do away with it entirely is ever going to be elected to any position to be able to do so.
Therefor, we artificially have people who are willing to work for a low wage.
Let's take a theoretical family with two parents and two kids, both parents working full time for $8 an hour.
That's 8 * 4160 hours or $34k a year before taxes. That family would qualify for somewhere in the neighborhood of $10K in welfare if one includes SNAP, and subsidized school lunches, etc etc.
That $10K a year makes it MUCH MUCH easier for companies to pay lousy wages. Take that away and people are going to be "what the fuck? No I need $10K more in pay."
Now, here's the sad part. That extra $10K that would put those people above the welfare threshold, would cost each of their employees an extra $2.40 an hour.
I agree, turn off welfare and employers would be forced to pay more. But we aren't turning off welfare.
Alright then, here's a solution you'll be hard pressed to argue.
Leave welfare alone, and destroy the minimum wage. Make those on welfare work a certain number of hours according to their physical abilities, even if it is a $1/hour job, supplemented by SNAP, AFDC, SSI, etc.
People would quickly come to decide that they might as well make a decent wage if they have to work anyway, and the number of people on the dole would shrink considerably.
The problem is that with a high min wage, those people arent employable. The cost to create work for them to do would be greater than just sending them money. And the rolls of Disability would swell considerably. Plus anyone proposing it would be called mean and heartless.
IOW, it's a non starter.
Hasn't came true yet.
See, what you and your fellow morons don't seem to understand is that a minimum wage increase is inevitable. It's going to happen, no matter how much you scream "no no no"
The only you are accomplishing is assuring that you have no voice in how MUCH of an increase happens.
The minimum wage increase hasn't have significant repercussions, because it's never been raise to a meaningful level. That's why I'd actually like to the dimwits supporting it shoot for the moon. If people really believe minimum wage has no negative repercussions, why not raise it to something truly 'liveable'? We should set the minimum wage at $30/hr and watch what happens. Maybe then they'd get it.
How ignorant, you'd cut off your nose to spite your neighbor's face.