Walmart on Welfare: We support their employees so they don't have to.

No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

None of that matters.
What if it was 403530945823 times the average worker? I don't care. Does not matter.

If you have a job.... then you "partake in that success". Are you saying Greece is better off, because they don't have CEOs making 1,000 times more than the typical worker? They are BEGGING for a job there. Being able to partake in the success of Walmart is why people come here from all over the world.

If it is so bad... why are people not swimming to cuba? They don't have so much inequality there.... right?

The only reason a person has to compare CEO pay to worker pay, is if they are greedy and envious. That's all there is to it.
You seem to have it in your head that I want someone else's money and that I am greedy. Cuba is a communist state, we are a capitalist, there is a happy medium between the two called dare I say Socialism, inequality affects everyone even you, like I just said a minute ago, I am not against all inequality, its what drives people to pursue more, I am against the LEVEL of inequality which exists today.

If you care about CEO pay... then yes. You are greedy and you want someone else's money. I have never in my life even worried, or considered how much my CEO was paid. If I want to earn more, it's my job to increase the value of my labor. Not worry about how much the CEO is paid.

If Warren Buffet triples his income... what is that to me? If Warren Buffet goes broke, and works as a Walmart greeter, what is that to me?

I want *EVERYONE* to be wealthy. Whenever someone earns more... I think that's good. The more someone earns, good for them.


Sometimes I think they believe wealth is finite, like "OMG that guy is hording all the money" LOL no you just aren't earning any of it.
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

I don't give a damn if they CEO is making a billion times what their average worker makes. I only care that the average worker doesn't qualify for welfare, other than that is none of your business unless you own a stake in the business.

Again, this proves that what the left really cares about is bitching about the "boss man" no real concern for the little man , else they would modify their argument.
Look at inequality in other industrialized developed first class nations, it is much lower, it is funny you dont give a dam about inequality you should, it affects you just as much as everyone else/


Reread our founding documents. NOWHERE , absolutely NOWHERE does it say that all men WILL have equal money.

I'm fairly well off, I won't deny. I've worked my ass off to get there, and for you to tell me that I should worry about making other people who don't work as hard as I do more equal to me is just ludicrous. That IS socialism my friend. I'm sorry but the guy who isn't working as hard as me doesn't deserve to live as well as me.
Your dealing in absolutes, I think some inequality is good, it is a driver of innovation and competition and success, the LEVEL of inequality that exists today is completely out of proportion.

It doesn't matter that it is out of proportion though . Not as far as the government is concerned. Our government is NOT empowered to make things more equal. Do you understand that?

You want things to be more equal. Petition your local McDonald's to pay more, or boycott them.

I have done exactly that. I live in a small town, a personal friend (used to be anyway) owns the McDonalds. One day last year he was forced by McD corporate to remodel, he had to close for two weeks to do so. He waited until the day before closing to inform his employees that they wold be closed for two weeks and that none of them would be receiving a paycheck , not one penny. Now, this guy made somewhere around $350K in profits on that store last year, it certainly wouldn't have killed him to pay his workers for those two weeks, and I didn't think it was fair at all. I told him so , and told him that he lost my business over it. Things got heated and eventually about 200 other people told him the same thing.

Now this is a small town, 200 people stop being your customer you're going to be hurt. Within FOUR days of our boycott he sent all every employee a check for full wages.

THAT is how you effect a change in this country, not running to daddy government every time you think something isn't fair.
That is great and that is how things should work in a democracy whether you are voting on a measure or voting with your money and protesting but I disagree that the government should not be an avenue for making your voice heard on issues that affect you and your community. If the courts became involved in this matter which could have easily happened that would have been the government getting involved.


What are you talking about? Where would a court get the authority to order the guy to pay people when they didn't work? I mean seriously....
 
It is funny you attempt to characterize me as supporting the rich, our current president wants to end subsidies for oil and gas companies the Replublican right does, our current president wants to end the offshoring of capital by changing the laws the Republican right does not. Bush was so far to the right its not even funny and plenty of people will tell you the policies of his administration supported the rich and powerful. I am a spoiled american because I support policies which benefit the middle and lower classes, I do not think so. I am not spoiled at all I wokr just like everyone else yet I come from a lower to middle class family and know all too well hardships that have been faced by my family and others. I suppose you think supporting the healthcare law which attempts to control costs and gives tens of millions more people access to healthcare is supporting the rich as well? Yes, fact, people did have more buying power in the past and had to work less for the same level of equality and yes the rich were taxed at a much igher rate.

No, you do support the rich. It's not a characterize. It's a fact.

Further, we don't subsidize oil companies. We don't. We subsidize Ethanol. Money is stolen (taxed) from my pay check, and the government writes a check to Ethanol companies. That is a subsidy.

We don't not subsidize oil companies. It's a lie. You show me in the Federal budget where an oil company collects money FROM the government. Because I can show you budget items where we subsidize oil.

And your policies do not benefit the lower and middle class. You just posted that you support a policy that will eliminate half a million jobs of exactly those people.

As for Health Care....

I cite myself as an example. Back in 2004, I got an insurance policy for $67 a month. It was a catastrophic coverage policy.

Today... all those policies are gone. The lowest priced policy I could find was $250. So... today I have no insurance. I'll just pay the $97 tax fine.

You sure haven't benefited me.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

None of that matters.
What if it was 403530945823 times the average worker? I don't care. Does not matter.

If you have a job.... then you "partake in that success". Are you saying Greece is better off, because they don't have CEOs making 1,000 times more than the typical worker? They are BEGGING for a job there. Being able to partake in the success of Walmart is why people come here from all over the world.

If it is so bad... why are people not swimming to cuba? They don't have so much inequality there.... right?

The only reason a person has to compare CEO pay to worker pay, is if they are greedy and envious. That's all there is to it.
You seem to have it in your head that I want someone else's money and that I am greedy. Cuba is a communist state, we are a capitalist, there is a happy medium between the two called dare I say Socialism, inequality affects everyone even you, like I just said a minute ago, I am not against all inequality, its what drives people to pursue more, I am against the LEVEL of inequality which exists today.

If you care about CEO pay... then yes. You are greedy and you want someone else's money. I have never in my life even worried, or considered how much my CEO was paid. If I want to earn more, it's my job to increase the value of my labor. Not worry about how much the CEO is paid.

If Warren Buffet triples his income... what is that to me? If Warren Buffet goes broke, and works as a Walmart greeter, what is that to me?

I want *EVERYONE* to be wealthy. Whenever someone earns more... I think that's good. The more someone earns, good for them.


Sometimes I think they believe wealth is finite, like "OMG that guy is hording all the money" LOL no you just aren't earning any of it.
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.
and dont deal in absolutes on me, I don't have to be a communists to say that the level of inequality that exists is out of proportion.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

None of that matters.
What if it was 403530945823 times the average worker? I don't care. Does not matter.

If you have a job.... then you "partake in that success". Are you saying Greece is better off, because they don't have CEOs making 1,000 times more than the typical worker? They are BEGGING for a job there. Being able to partake in the success of Walmart is why people come here from all over the world.

If it is so bad... why are people not swimming to cuba? They don't have so much inequality there.... right?

The only reason a person has to compare CEO pay to worker pay, is if they are greedy and envious. That's all there is to it.
You seem to have it in your head that I want someone else's money and that I am greedy. Cuba is a communist state, we are a capitalist, there is a happy medium between the two called dare I say Socialism, inequality affects everyone even you, like I just said a minute ago, I am not against all inequality, its what drives people to pursue more, I am against the LEVEL of inequality which exists today.

If you care about CEO pay... then yes. You are greedy and you want someone else's money. I have never in my life even worried, or considered how much my CEO was paid. If I want to earn more, it's my job to increase the value of my labor. Not worry about how much the CEO is paid.

If Warren Buffet triples his income... what is that to me? If Warren Buffet goes broke, and works as a Walmart greeter, what is that to me?

I want *EVERYONE* to be wealthy. Whenever someone earns more... I think that's good. The more someone earns, good for them.


Sometimes I think they believe wealth is finite, like "OMG that guy is hording all the money" LOL no you just aren't earning any of it.
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.


I don't care. If you riot because the CEO makes 1000X times more than you I want to see your ass in prison.

And further, if you have time to riot, I don't want to hear you whining about not earning enough b/c clearly you could be working harder. I'm too tired at the end of a work week to riot.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

I don't give a damn if they CEO is making a billion times what their average worker makes. I only care that the average worker doesn't qualify for welfare, other than that is none of your business unless you own a stake in the business.

Again, this proves that what the left really cares about is bitching about the "boss man" no real concern for the little man , else they would modify their argument.
Look at inequality in other industrialized developed first class nations, it is much lower, it is funny you dont give a dam about inequality you should, it affects you just as much as everyone else/


Reread our founding documents. NOWHERE , absolutely NOWHERE does it say that all men WILL have equal money.

I'm fairly well off, I won't deny. I've worked my ass off to get there, and for you to tell me that I should worry about making other people who don't work as hard as I do more equal to me is just ludicrous. That IS socialism my friend. I'm sorry but the guy who isn't working as hard as me doesn't deserve to live as well as me.
Your dealing in absolutes, I think some inequality is good, it is a driver of innovation and competition and success, the LEVEL of inequality that exists today is completely out of proportion.

It doesn't matter that it is out of proportion though . Not as far as the government is concerned. Our government is NOT empowered to make things more equal. Do you understand that?

You want things to be more equal. Petition your local McDonald's to pay more, or boycott them.

I have done exactly that. I live in a small town, a personal friend (used to be anyway) owns the McDonalds. One day last year he was forced by McD corporate to remodel, he had to close for two weeks to do so. He waited until the day before closing to inform his employees that they wold be closed for two weeks and that none of them would be receiving a paycheck , not one penny. Now, this guy made somewhere around $350K in profits on that store last year, it certainly wouldn't have killed him to pay his workers for those two weeks, and I didn't think it was fair at all. I told him so , and told him that he lost my business over it. Things got heated and eventually about 200 other people told him the same thing.

Now this is a small town, 200 people stop being your customer you're going to be hurt. Within FOUR days of our boycott he sent all every employee a check for full wages.

THAT is how you effect a change in this country, not running to daddy government every time you think something isn't fair.
That is great and that is how things should work in a democracy whether you are voting on a measure or voting with your money and protesting but I disagree that the government should not be an avenue for making your voice heard on issues that affect you and your community. If the courts became involved in this matter which could have easily happened that would have been the government getting involved.


What are you talking about? Where would a court get the authority to order the guy to pay people when they didn't work? I mean seriously....
The courts could possibly get involved on a lack of timely notification to the employees which caused them undue financial hardships obviously.
 
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.

It does cause strife and unrest. But that doesn't mean it's bad economically. Again, the poorest people in our country, live better than 99% of the world.

Strife and unrest is due to Americans being spoiled brats. The standard of living today is better than it has ever been. I wouldn't trade today for the 90s, or the 80s, or worse the 70s. No one would. So why are people all bent? Because they are spoiled brats. Nothing is good enough, and all they can do is find something to complain about, even while people are willing to risk death to get to this life they are b!tching about.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

None of that matters.
What if it was 403530945823 times the average worker? I don't care. Does not matter.

If you have a job.... then you "partake in that success". Are you saying Greece is better off, because they don't have CEOs making 1,000 times more than the typical worker? They are BEGGING for a job there. Being able to partake in the success of Walmart is why people come here from all over the world.

If it is so bad... why are people not swimming to cuba? They don't have so much inequality there.... right?

The only reason a person has to compare CEO pay to worker pay, is if they are greedy and envious. That's all there is to it.
You seem to have it in your head that I want someone else's money and that I am greedy. Cuba is a communist state, we are a capitalist, there is a happy medium between the two called dare I say Socialism, inequality affects everyone even you, like I just said a minute ago, I am not against all inequality, its what drives people to pursue more, I am against the LEVEL of inequality which exists today.

If you care about CEO pay... then yes. You are greedy and you want someone else's money. I have never in my life even worried, or considered how much my CEO was paid. If I want to earn more, it's my job to increase the value of my labor. Not worry about how much the CEO is paid.

If Warren Buffet triples his income... what is that to me? If Warren Buffet goes broke, and works as a Walmart greeter, what is that to me?

I want *EVERYONE* to be wealthy. Whenever someone earns more... I think that's good. The more someone earns, good for them.


Sometimes I think they believe wealth is finite, like "OMG that guy is hording all the money" LOL no you just aren't earning any of it.
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.


I don't care. If you riot because the CEO makes 1000X times more than you I want to see your ass in prison.

And further, if you have time to riot, I don't want to hear you whining about not earning enough b/c clearly you could be working harder. I'm too tired at the end of a work week to riot.
Please shut your face about how hard you work as if other people don't work as hard as you and your lack of empathy for others shows how out of touch you are with the everyday reality of millions of Americans, probably off in a gated community somewhere secluded, go eat your dinner with your silver spoon, go on and piss off!
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

I don't give a damn if they CEO is making a billion times what their average worker makes. I only care that the average worker doesn't qualify for welfare, other than that is none of your business unless you own a stake in the business.

Again, this proves that what the left really cares about is bitching about the "boss man" no real concern for the little man , else they would modify their argument.
Look at inequality in other industrialized developed first class nations, it is much lower, it is funny you dont give a dam about inequality you should, it affects you just as much as everyone else/


Reread our founding documents. NOWHERE , absolutely NOWHERE does it say that all men WILL have equal money.

I'm fairly well off, I won't deny. I've worked my ass off to get there, and for you to tell me that I should worry about making other people who don't work as hard as I do more equal to me is just ludicrous. That IS socialism my friend. I'm sorry but the guy who isn't working as hard as me doesn't deserve to live as well as me.
Your dealing in absolutes, I think some inequality is good, it is a driver of innovation and competition and success, the LEVEL of inequality that exists today is completely out of proportion.

It doesn't matter that it is out of proportion though . Not as far as the government is concerned. Our government is NOT empowered to make things more equal. Do you understand that?

You want things to be more equal. Petition your local McDonald's to pay more, or boycott them.

I have done exactly that. I live in a small town, a personal friend (used to be anyway) owns the McDonalds. One day last year he was forced by McD corporate to remodel, he had to close for two weeks to do so. He waited until the day before closing to inform his employees that they wold be closed for two weeks and that none of them would be receiving a paycheck , not one penny. Now, this guy made somewhere around $350K in profits on that store last year, it certainly wouldn't have killed him to pay his workers for those two weeks, and I didn't think it was fair at all. I told him so , and told him that he lost my business over it. Things got heated and eventually about 200 other people told him the same thing.

Now this is a small town, 200 people stop being your customer you're going to be hurt. Within FOUR days of our boycott he sent all every employee a check for full wages.

THAT is how you effect a change in this country, not running to daddy government every time you think something isn't fair.
That is great and that is how things should work in a democracy whether you are voting on a measure or voting with your money and protesting but I disagree that the government should not be an avenue for making your voice heard on issues that affect you and your community. If the courts became involved in this matter which could have easily happened that would have been the government getting involved.


What are you talking about? Where would a court get the authority to order the guy to pay people when they didn't work? I mean seriously....
The courts could possibly get involved on a lack of timely notification to the employees which caused them undue financial hardships obviously.


show me where anyone has a right to such notice.
 
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.

It does cause strife and unrest. But that doesn't mean it's bad economically. Again, the poorest people in our country, live better than 99% of the world.

Strife and unrest is due to Americans being spoiled brats. The standard of living today is better than it has ever been. I wouldn't trade today for the 90s, or the 80s, or worse the 70s. No one would. So why are people all bent? Because they are spoiled brats. Nothing is good enough, and all they can do is find something to complain about, even while people are willing to risk death to get to this life they are b!tching about.
The standard of living and peoples buying power was much higher in the past when our country had much more progressive policies and that is a fact, look it up.
 
Please shut your face about how hard you work as if other people don't work as hard as you and your lack of empathy for others shows how out of touch you are with the everyday reality of millions of Americans, probably off in a gated community somewhere secluded, go eat your dinner with your silver spoon, go on and piss off!

I empathize with people that don't whiny and cry, but rather work their butts off. I have never met someone who worked their butt off, that was poor.

Never!

We're only out of touch with arrogant brats who thing they are entitled to money they have not earned, and the pandering elitists like you, who steal our hard earned money, to pay for them.
 
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.

It does cause strife and unrest. But that doesn't mean it's bad economically. Again, the poorest people in our country, live better than 99% of the world.

Strife and unrest is due to Americans being spoiled brats. The standard of living today is better than it has ever been. I wouldn't trade today for the 90s, or the 80s, or worse the 70s. No one would. So why are people all bent? Because they are spoiled brats. Nothing is good enough, and all they can do is find something to complain about, even while people are willing to risk death to get to this life they are b!tching about.
The standard of living and peoples buying power was much higher in the past when our country had much more progressive policies and that is a fact, look it up.

Not true. I have looked it up. It's not true.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

I don't give a damn if they CEO is making a billion times what their average worker makes. I only care that the average worker doesn't qualify for welfare, other than that is none of your business unless you own a stake in the business.

Again, this proves that what the left really cares about is bitching about the "boss man" no real concern for the little man , else they would modify their argument.
Look at inequality in other industrialized developed first class nations, it is much lower, it is funny you dont give a dam about inequality you should, it affects you just as much as everyone else/


Reread our founding documents. NOWHERE , absolutely NOWHERE does it say that all men WILL have equal money.

I'm fairly well off, I won't deny. I've worked my ass off to get there, and for you to tell me that I should worry about making other people who don't work as hard as I do more equal to me is just ludicrous. That IS socialism my friend. I'm sorry but the guy who isn't working as hard as me doesn't deserve to live as well as me.
Your dealing in absolutes, I think some inequality is good, it is a driver of innovation and competition and success, the LEVEL of inequality that exists today is completely out of proportion.

It doesn't matter that it is out of proportion though . Not as far as the government is concerned. Our government is NOT empowered to make things more equal. Do you understand that?

You want things to be more equal. Petition your local McDonald's to pay more, or boycott them.

I have done exactly that. I live in a small town, a personal friend (used to be anyway) owns the McDonalds. One day last year he was forced by McD corporate to remodel, he had to close for two weeks to do so. He waited until the day before closing to inform his employees that they wold be closed for two weeks and that none of them would be receiving a paycheck , not one penny. Now, this guy made somewhere around $350K in profits on that store last year, it certainly wouldn't have killed him to pay his workers for those two weeks, and I didn't think it was fair at all. I told him so , and told him that he lost my business over it. Things got heated and eventually about 200 other people told him the same thing.

Now this is a small town, 200 people stop being your customer you're going to be hurt. Within FOUR days of our boycott he sent all every employee a check for full wages.

THAT is how you effect a change in this country, not running to daddy government every time you think something isn't fair.
That is great and that is how things should work in a democracy whether you are voting on a measure or voting with your money and protesting but I disagree that the government should not be an avenue for making your voice heard on issues that affect you and your community. If the courts became involved in this matter which could have easily happened that would have been the government getting involved.


What are you talking about? Where would a court get the authority to order the guy to pay people when they didn't work? I mean seriously....
The courts could possibly get involved on a lack of timely notification to the employees which caused them undue financial hardships obviously.


show me where anyone has a right to such notice.
My point is the government is a proper avenue for redress, the government exists to represent the needs and interests of the people and provide security and safeguard our rights.
 
The only way you can get a good job paying a living wage is through education. And we know what Republicans think about education.




What are you talking about? How much fucking education do you need to flip burgers? And guess what? We'll always need burger flippers. so the argument that education will solve everything is equally stupid whether made by a liberal or a conservative.


Fast-Food Wages Come With a 7 Billion Side of Public Assistance - Businessweek

You think "flipping burgers" is a "good job"?????


Of course not, that's why I went to college. But there are two realities (at least) that you are ignoring

A) Not everyone can , or even should, go to college. There are a lot of people out there who aren't suited to do anything more than sweep streets, flip burgers, etc etc.

B) We will ALWAYS need those jobs filled so even if every person in America had a Doctorate degree, we would have doctors flipping burgers, and sweeping streets.

Those two things are realities RDean. The difference between you and I is that I don't look down my nose at those people and scream that someone else is keeping them from being educated enough to get a "real" job. Instead, I think they should be recognized as filling a need and that they should be compensated fairly.

If you could turn off your "blame the Republicans" for a moment, you would see that I am entirely correct.


The difference between you and I is that you are delusional.

I never said everyone should go to college.

In fact, when I said there were 4 million unfilled jobs requiring skilled labor, that includes machinists, CNC programmers and so on.

No one can debate your kind. It's not possible. You can't make up your own facts. I even posted a video in #321. If you had watched it, you wouldn't need to make shit up. Or did you watch it and lie instead? Which was it? A lie or a delusion? I'm going with delusion.
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

None of that matters.
What if it was 403530945823 times the average worker? I don't care. Does not matter.

If you have a job.... then you "partake in that success". Are you saying Greece is better off, because they don't have CEOs making 1,000 times more than the typical worker? They are BEGGING for a job there. Being able to partake in the success of Walmart is why people come here from all over the world.

If it is so bad... why are people not swimming to cuba? They don't have so much inequality there.... right?

The only reason a person has to compare CEO pay to worker pay, is if they are greedy and envious. That's all there is to it.
You seem to have it in your head that I want someone else's money and that I am greedy. Cuba is a communist state, we are a capitalist, there is a happy medium between the two called dare I say Socialism, inequality affects everyone even you, like I just said a minute ago, I am not against all inequality, its what drives people to pursue more, I am against the LEVEL of inequality which exists today.

If you care about CEO pay... then yes. You are greedy and you want someone else's money. I have never in my life even worried, or considered how much my CEO was paid. If I want to earn more, it's my job to increase the value of my labor. Not worry about how much the CEO is paid.

If Warren Buffet triples his income... what is that to me? If Warren Buffet goes broke, and works as a Walmart greeter, what is that to me?

I want *EVERYONE* to be wealthy. Whenever someone earns more... I think that's good. The more someone earns, good for them.


Sometimes I think they believe wealth is finite, like "OMG that guy is hording all the money" LOL no you just aren't earning any of it.
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.


I don't care. If you riot because the CEO makes 1000X times more than you I want to see your ass in prison.

And further, if you have time to riot, I don't want to hear you whining about not earning enough b/c clearly you could be working harder. I'm too tired at the end of a work week to riot.
Please shut your face about how hard you work as if other people don't work as hard as you and your lack of empathy for others shows how out of touch you are with the everyday reality of millions of Americans, probably off in a gated community somewhere secluded, go eat your dinner with your silver spoon, go on and piss off!

Son, not everyone does work equally hard, that's a fact.

By the way , empathy has NOTHING to do with not wanting the government to have powers they aren't entitled to

Further, I support raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour.

Further, I personally have taken a family that was on the street with nothing but what they could fit in their car and put them in an apartment, got them jobs, and provided food and clothing for them and their kids . We met these people b/c they were standing on the side of the road looking for work to feed their kids and oh guess what, felt sorry for them.

Okay, my wife felt more sorry for them , but same difference.

Anyway do you think these people came to my house and looked around and said "hey make us equal to you" fuck no, they came to my house and looked around and said "hey , how can we EARN what you have" and THAT is why I GLADLY helped them.
 
The only way you can get a good job paying a living wage is through education. And we know what Republicans think about education.




What are you talking about? How much fucking education do you need to flip burgers? And guess what? We'll always need burger flippers. so the argument that education will solve everything is equally stupid whether made by a liberal or a conservative.


Fast-Food Wages Come With a 7 Billion Side of Public Assistance - Businessweek

You think "flipping burgers" is a "good job"?????


Of course not, that's why I went to college. But there are two realities (at least) that you are ignoring

A) Not everyone can , or even should, go to college. There are a lot of people out there who aren't suited to do anything more than sweep streets, flip burgers, etc etc.

B) We will ALWAYS need those jobs filled so even if every person in America had a Doctorate degree, we would have doctors flipping burgers, and sweeping streets.

Those two things are realities RDean. The difference between you and I is that I don't look down my nose at those people and scream that someone else is keeping them from being educated enough to get a "real" job. Instead, I think they should be recognized as filling a need and that they should be compensated fairly.

If you could turn off your "blame the Republicans" for a moment, you would see that I am entirely correct.


The difference between you and I is that you are delusional.

I never said everyone should go to college.

In fact, when I said there were 4 million unfilled jo
bs requiring skilled labor, that includes machinists, CNC programmers and so on.

No one can debate your kind. It's not possible. You can't make up your own facts. I even posted a video in #321. If you had watched it, you wouldn't need to make shit up. Or did you watch it and lie instead? Which was it? A lie or a delusion? I'm going with delusion.



I've already summarily dismissed you as a lunatic who only cares about disparaging "the evil right" so any further effort to debate with me is a waste of your time.
 
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.

It does cause strife and unrest. But that doesn't mean it's bad economically. Again, the poorest people in our country, live better than 99% of the world.

Strife and unrest is due to Americans being spoiled brats. The standard of living today is better than it has ever been. I wouldn't trade today for the 90s, or the 80s, or worse the 70s. No one would. So why are people all bent? Because they are spoiled brats. Nothing is good enough, and all they can do is find something to complain about, even while people are willing to risk death to get to this life they are b!tching about.
The standard of living and peoples buying power was much higher in the past when our country had much more progressive policies and that is a fact, look it up.

Not true. I have looked it up. It's not true.
Oh, is that so? Have you really looked it up? Here is one of many articles which validate my claims that the standard of living has indeed dropped significantly.

A long, steep drop for Americans' standard of living
A long steep drop for Americans standard of living - CSMonitor.com
 
Why doesn't Walmart pay a living wage? Answer: because the owners are greedy and want taxpayers to subsidize their employees.

I love how liberals cry about a "living wage" but when liberals get a chance to avoid paying that wage, themselves, they sure are quick about it.

Liberal Democrats campaigning for living wage accused of 8216 hypocrisy 8217 over leaflet deliverers 8217 pay in Cambridge Cambridge News



Hypocrisy Democrats Demanding Livable Wages Pay Their Interns 0

Liberal rag Mother Jones advocates living wage yet encourages own employees to go on food stamps Poor Richard s News

Liberals are nothing but hypocrites. They attack CAPITALIST industries with this living wage BS, just like they attack them with global warming.

But when asked to dig OUT OF THIER OWN POCKETS TO PAY A LIVING WAGE, liberals suddenly become the biggest cheapskates there are.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
No I do not mention the Waltons worth because I am greedy or envious, I cite it to show that they are not hurting for money and to show the inequality which exists, Wal - Mart can afford to pay their workers more, give them regular schedules and full time work instead of part time. Just because Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers in the country does not mean that somehow we should be thankful to them for supporting low wages part time hours and little advancement opportunities for their workforce, quite the contrary. They have a responsibility to their communities and to the country to be a good corporate citizen and treat their workers fairly with dignity and respect in hours and pay and advancement opportunities.

I don't care if the are hurting or not. Does not matter.

Completely IRRELEVANT to the conversation.

No, Walmart can not just pay people more.

First, you don't even know if the employee WANTS to work full time or not. Not everyone does. Making judgements based on information you don't have. Stop it.

Second, you don't grasp how chain companies work, do you?

Any chain company, each store operates as an independent business. Each store, has to make or break on their own. They have to make payroll with their own revenue.

If your store, that you work for, doesn't have the money to pay you more.... then it doesn't matter if McDonald's Corporate or Walmart Corporate, or Wendy's or Hertz, or any Corporate HQ has BILLIONS. Corporate HQ does not subsidize stores. If the store is losing money.... they close. Corporate doesn't blow money on a dying store to keep it open.

What that means is, any time you look at the profits of Corporate HQ... you already failed. If you want to know if a store can pay their employees more, you need to look at the profits of THAT STORE.

Third, Walmart is treating their employees fairly. No, they don't have a 'responsibility as a blaw blaw (insert progressive BS here)'.

It's not yours. Do you not get this? Can I come to your home, and demand you let me sleep there, because you have a "responsibility to your community and to the country to be a good citizen"? Of course not. You and I both know, you wouldn't buy that.

But when it's someone else's property, suddenly you are full of BS excuses why you should dictate how other people use their property.

That company is the property of the owners. It's not yours. You don't have any right to say jack about it. Cut the BS.
BS? The workers who contribute to the success of the company should be able to partake in that success. The workers are the backbone of the company and maybe profit benchmarks that stores have to meet need to be reassessed to consider their workers more, I will not say the level of inequality that exists between a companies a workers bees and heads of the company is fair. A CEO's pay compared to the pay of its base workforce is extremely gross and distorted and has become more and more distorted with time. Here are links to a couple articles which support this.

Fast Food CEO's Make 1,000 Time More Than Their Typical Workers: Report
The Pros And Cons Of Union Jobs Bankrate.com

Report: CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers, 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners
Report CEOs Earn 331 Times As Much As Average Workers 774 Times As Much As Minimum Wage Earners - Forbes

None of that matters.
What if it was 403530945823 times the average worker? I don't care. Does not matter.

If you have a job.... then you "partake in that success". Are you saying Greece is better off, because they don't have CEOs making 1,000 times more than the typical worker? They are BEGGING for a job there. Being able to partake in the success of Walmart is why people come here from all over the world.

If it is so bad... why are people not swimming to cuba? They don't have so much inequality there.... right?

The only reason a person has to compare CEO pay to worker pay, is if they are greedy and envious. That's all there is to it.
You seem to have it in your head that I want someone else's money and that I am greedy. Cuba is a communist state, we are a capitalist, there is a happy medium between the two called dare I say Socialism, inequality affects everyone even you, like I just said a minute ago, I am not against all inequality, its what drives people to pursue more, I am against the LEVEL of inequality which exists today.

If you care about CEO pay... then yes. You are greedy and you want someone else's money. I have never in my life even worried, or considered how much my CEO was paid. If I want to earn more, it's my job to increase the value of my labor. Not worry about how much the CEO is paid.

If Warren Buffet triples his income... what is that to me? If Warren Buffet goes broke, and works as a Walmart greeter, what is that to me?

I want *EVERYONE* to be wealthy. Whenever someone earns more... I think that's good. The more someone earns, good for them.


Sometimes I think they believe wealth is finite, like "OMG that guy is hording all the money" LOL no you just aren't earning any of it.
You obviously do not understand how inequality affects everyone and society at large, it is a major factor in economic decisions and market decisions and is a major factor for unrest and civil strife.


I don't care. If you riot because the CEO makes 1000X times more than you I want to see your ass in prison.

And further, if you have time to riot, I don't want to hear you whining about not earning enough b/c clearly you could be working harder. I'm too tired at the end of a work week to riot.
Please shut your face about how hard you work as if other people don't work as hard as you and your lack of empathy for others shows how out of touch you are with the everyday reality of millions of Americans, probably off in a gated community somewhere secluded, go eat your dinner with your silver spoon, go on and piss off!

Son, not everyone does work equally hard, that's a fact.

By the way , empathy has NOTHING to do with not wanting the government to have powers they aren't entitled to

Further, I support raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour.

Further, I personally have taken a family that was on the street with nothing but what they could fit in their car and put them in an apartment, got them jobs, and provided food and clothing for them and their kids . We met these people b/c they were standing on the side of the road looking for work to feed their kids and oh guess what, felt sorry for them.

Okay, my wife felt more sorry for them , but same difference.

Anyway do you think these people came to my house and looked around and said "hey make us equal to you" fuck no, they came to my house and looked around and said "hey , how can we EARN what you have" and THAT is why I GLADLY helped them.
Good for you and your wife for helping others but enough with this absolute shit, I never said equal I said LESS inequality, there is a big difference you cant seem to not take it to the extreme and yes there are plenty of people who are hard workers who struggle, I know a guy who works his ass off, he is a serious headcase and yet he struggles to pay his bills.
 

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