wake up libs

[busara]

dont forget to site your sources, traderjoe

(unless you wrote the 'what has obama accomplished' thing, which you may have, but im guessing not. just trying to protect you from the admins here)

 

[traderjoe9]

dont forget to site your sources, traderjoe

(unless you wrote the 'what has obama accomplished' thing, which you may have, but im guessing not. just trying to protect you from the admins here)

I did want to post a link, but I had to wait until I had 15 posts to be able to.

 

[Bern80]

He's still smarter than the shrub....

and we all know about Bush's "military experience"... so get a grip.

pssst. Bush isn't running this time. Just thought you might want to know.

 

[jillian]

pssst. Bush isn't running this time. Just thought you might want to know.

coulda fooled me given that there's no difference between him and Bush lite.

 

[Bern80]

coulda fooled me given that there's no difference between him and Bush lite.

From your side of the isle i can see why you would think that.

 

[jillian]

Let me know when you guys find someone who isn't bought and sold by the rabid religious freaks and we'll talk.

And my side of the aisle would have voted for McCain in 2000....now he's Bush redux...

 

[sealybobo]

when will this madness end? can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? without mentioning change? he wants to get rid of the need for oil within 10 years?? do you realize how many products are made from oil? you libs wouldn't be able to drive your overpriced hybrids if there wasnt oil which is needed for APHALT. just to name one...

none of his ideas are new. its called socialism, and its never worked, read a history book.

I am voting for Obama because he will get us off being dependent on foreign oil. He will take away the tax break to the rich and give it to us middle class people. He will end the Iraq occupation. He will restore our name with the rest of the world.

Just the fact that Bush has made enemies with the rest of the world is reason enough to vote for Obama. He is someone the rest of the world can work with and will respect. The rest of the world hates Bush. HATES.

And, Obama won't appoint radical right extreme supreme court justices who will ban abortion. I don't want guys like McCain, Bush and Hagee and Foley and Craig telling me I can't and then they go to a rich doctor and get the procedure done for their mistresses but we won't have that luxury.

 

[Bern80]

Let me know when you guys find someone who isn't bought and sold by the rabid religious freaks and we'll talk.

And my side of the aisle would have voted for McCain in 2000....now he's Bush redux...

I'd love to see some actual evidence of that. This religious right is a scapegoat or figment of your imagination.

 

[CA95380]

-snip- can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? -snip-

Well, you have to admit that "the man can dance", right???

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4&feature=related]YouTube - Barack Obama on Ellen[/ame]

But I am not a "supporter" one way or another. Just thought I would point this out, for you. It just might change YOUR mind

 

[CharlestonChad]

when will this madness end? can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? without mentioning change? he wants to get rid of the need for oil within 10 years?? do you realize how many products are made from oil? you libs wouldn't be able to drive your overpriced hybrids if there wasnt oil which is needed for APHALT. just to name one...

none of his ideas are new. its called socialism, and its never worked, read a history book.

1. He strongly pushes for alternatives. It will take a president like him to get us off foreign oil.

2. He will insure that the needy will have health insurance that doesn't involve going to the ER everytime they need a checkup.

3. His foreign policy is miles ahead of McCain's.

Well, I could go on and on and on and on, but that'd be a waste of time on a person who thinks there are no positives in Barack Obama.

 

[Bern80]

1. He strongly pushes for alternatives. It will take a president like him to get us off foreign oil.

I've heard it worded this way before. Does that mean he is okay with drilling for oil on our own land?

2. He will insure that the needy will have health insurance that doesn't involve going to the ER everytime they need a checkup.

If that is about all that is really involved in his plan that's fine, but I have my doubts.

3. His foreign policy is miles ahead of McCain's.

That's not very specific.

 

[jillian]

I'd love to see some actual evidence of that. This religious right is a scapegoat or figment of your imagination.

Perhaps you don't understand politics or who constitutes the "base" of the republican party... besides the "haves and the have-mores" that is.

You think McCain crawled on his knees for Parsley's and Hagee's endorsements for no reason?

If you don't get it, I'd say that's more your problem than any "figment of [my]
imagination. But if you need some help...

Prominent evangelical leaders are warning Sen. John McCain against picking former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney as his running mate, saying their troops will abandon the Republican ticket on Election Day if that happens.

They say Mr. Romney lacks trust on issues such as outlawing abortion and opposing same-sex marriage and because he is a Mormon. Opposition is particularly powerful among those who supported former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee in the Republican presidential primaries earlier this year.

Evangelicals to McCain - No Mitt Romney as Vice President | FullosseousFlap's Dental Blog

 

[morpheus]

when will this madness end? can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? without mentioning change? he wants to get rid of the need for oil within 10 years?? do you realize how many products are made from oil? you libs wouldn't be able to drive your overpriced hybrids if there wasnt oil which is needed for APHALT. just to name one...

none of his ideas are new. its called socialism, and its never worked, read a history book.

The term "socialism" -which Obama never uses- has been used by a variety of political movements, from communists advocating complete state control of the economy, to centrist economic theory advocating an economic system that is mostly free market with a few essential publically funded services, such as health care. While the former has failed, the latter has actually worked quite well, not only in Western Europe, Canada, Japan, etc, but also in the United States. The United States has public schools, public universities, public libraries, minimum wage laws, some form of state pension (social security), publically-owned and operated airports, public funding for roads, public ownership of water supplies and infrastructure, and so on. However, we refrain from refferring to any of these things as "socialism". And while we can all debate on weather or not global warming is happening as a result of human activity, we certainly all appreciate government regulation that reduces air pollution; breathing soot isn't exactly good for your health. Let alone regulations that require children to go to school, rather than work 16 hour days in a factory, and regulations that ensure our toothpaste is free of lead.

When compared to countries that adhere more closely to theoretical capitalism (such as Mexico and Brazil), the United States has a superior standard of living and wealth distribution. This point is constantly drowned out by the loud rhetoric about the failures of communism (or, socialism in its purest form). The reality that capitalism in its purest form also failed, not only in Brazil and Mexico, but also in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, has been almost comletely forgotten by those on the extreme right who advocate a return to that era. Perhaps these folks too need to open a history book.

In the 21st century, each problem will -or at least should- be approached on a case-by-case basis, meritting a unique solution tailored to that problem. Outside the United States, the capitalist-vs-socialist debate has become obsolete, as politicians on both ends of the spectrum have become more pragmatic and have moved closer to the center. Americans ignorantly ridicule how Europeans defend and protect their socialized health care systems, but they overlook Brussels' economic deregulation which has made the 27-nation bloc considerably more free market than in decades past. (Let alone Washington's steel tarrifs and farming subsidies, while hypocritically lecturing everyone else on free and open markets). Different facets of contemporary life merit different approaches -sometimes a more socialized approach- a lesson that even Brazil is belatedly realizing and has put into practice, from publically-funded AIDS research that provides generic alternatives to unaffordable brand-name drugs, to government loans for people looking to start a small business (and who wouldn't have been able to receive a loan from a private bank). The term "socialist" remains a horrible bad word in the United States, but when we examine mainstream European political parties who call themselves "socialist", their policies and ideology these days hardly differ from European conservatives. Like Obama, Clinton too was a "radical socialist", yet America never saw a communist revolution under 8 years of Clinton. On the contrary, under Clinton we saw NAFTA, and a foreign policy pushing for the further liberalization of global markets. Hardly socialism.

Then again, that horrible term "socialist" is just a convenient label used by special interests to scare Americans away from proposed policies that would benefit the public at the expense of corporations.

The more Americans continue to buy the propaganda, the more outdated America's way of life will become by the middle of this century.

 

[Inferno]

when will this madness end? can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? without mentioning change? he wants to get rid of the need for oil within 10 years?? do you realize how many products are made from oil? you libs wouldn't be able to drive your overpriced hybrids if there wasnt oil which is needed for APHALT. just to name one...

none of his ideas are new. its called socialism, and its never worked, read a history book.

He is not McCain and he is not Republican amd he is not a conservative. That would be three good reasons.
Socilism is a good thing in my eyes. That would be four.

 

[chapstic]

1. He strongly pushes for alternatives. It will take a president like him to get us off foreign oil.

2. He will insure that the needy will have health insurance that doesn't involve going to the ER everytime they need a checkup.

3. His foreign policy is miles ahead of McCain's.

Well, I could go on and on and on and on, but that'd be a waste of time on a person who thinks there are no positives in Barack Obama.

the needy? you mean the people who are to lazy to work?
ill be damned to watch my paycheck goto people who refuse to work because they are supported from the government.

i'm the needy too after i blow my 400k+ a year salary at the horse races. so please support me.

oh and there are no positives with barack hussein obama. he is a racist and a communist.

 

[Diuretic]

when will this madness end? can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? without mentioning change? he wants to get rid of the need for oil within 10 years?? do you realize how many products are made from oil? you libs wouldn't be able to drive your overpriced hybrids if there wasnt oil which is needed for APHALT. just to name one...

none of his ideas are new. its called socialism, and its never worked, read a history book.

I'm not voting for anyone but I can think of three reasons someone would vote for Obama.

1. He's a Democrat.
2 He's not a Republican.
3. He isn't a socialist.

 

[chapstic]

I'm not voting for anyone but I can think of three reasons someone would vote for Obama.

1. He's a Democrat.
2 He's not a Republican.
3. He isn't a socialist.

also, he promises hope and change. oh, and he is not george bush.

 

[DiamondDave]

1. He strongly pushes for alternatives. It will take a president like him to get us off foreign oil.

2. He will insure that the needy will have health insurance that doesn't involve going to the ER everytime they need a checkup.

3. His foreign policy is miles ahead of McCain's.

Well, I could go on and on and on and on, but that'd be a waste of time on a person who thinks there are no positives in Barack Obama.

1) I can push for dilithium crystals and warp power and it would be about as realistic... you can push for all kinds of inane pipe dreams... and Obama does dream.,.. but he refuses to deal in reality and have an actual way to get to that dream and make it viable
2) What he is proposing is socialist and wealth redistribution.. if he were on a path to ensure the public had easy channels into the private healthcare companies, easy to understand rates, and similar things I would be fine with a plan... but he has no right to wealth redistribute to buy more votes in the name of "universal healthcare"
3) He has not foreign policy other than appeasement, kissing ass, and worrying about "popularity"... he is not "miles ahead" of a lobotomized sea slug, let alone McCain

 

[Shadow]

1. He strongly pushes for alternatives. It will take a president like him to get us off foreign oil.

2. He will insure that the needy will have health insurance that doesn't involve going to the ER everytime they need a checkup.

3. His foreign policy is miles ahead of McCain's.

Well, I could go on and on and on and on, but that'd be a waste of time on a person who thinks there are no positives in Barack Obama.

1). What alternatives? Maintaining tire pressure? That is not a plan,thats just ingnorance.

2). We already have free health insurance for the needy. It is called Medicare. Plus, if you don't want that go to a free clinic,every city has one.

3). His foreign policy is the same as Mcain's only he changed his mind three times to get there.

 

[morpheus]

the needy? you mean the people who are to lazy to work?
ill be damned to watch my paycheck goto people who refuse to work because they are supported from the government.

What about your paycheck being handed out to negligent and irresponsible corporations who bribe congressmen for money, and don't pay taxes because they're based offshore?

It's called corporate welfare. It's what Republicans do well.