wake up libs

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    when will this madness end? can any obama supporter give me ONE valid reason why they are voting for him?? without mentioning change? he wants to get rid of the need for oil within 10 years?? do you realize how many products are made from oil? you libs wouldn't be able to drive your overpriced hybrids if there wasnt oil which is needed for APHALT. just to name one...

    none of his ideas are new. its called socialism, and its never worked, read a history book.
     
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    you clearly dont know what youre talking about, and it sounds like youre just here as a troll.
     
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    i dont know what i'm talking about? you can site some quotes, wow that is earth shattering. why dont you educate me then? so what do you want to do destroy all government?
     
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    So apparently you have no reason to like him? Why not just provide the reasons and dispense with the name calling...his points are valid enough to be addressed.

    I've never heard anyone say why they like him, either. All I've heard is that if anyone DOESN'T like him it's because he's black.
     
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    his points are valid? he comes in here and says stuff while providing no sources to back up what he says. see the bolded latin in my sig?

    if he wanted to debate he would give some sources. but i guess youre right, i dont like him, because he looks like a troll. (thats not simple name calling, it is a descriptive term for people who write inflammatory posts on a message board). he can prove me wrong. the only reason you support him is because you like what he says
     
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    what quotes did i site? the burden of proof is on you. so back up what you said
     
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    And you still haven't given one reason for voting for Obama. I don't think his post is inflammatory at all. You think it's inflammatory because it makes you uncomfortable. But asking uncomfortable questions that you can't answer doesn't make him a troll.
     
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    im undecided, which i have said before. so i cant say why i'm voting for him, because i dont know if i am.

    makes me uncomfortable, huh? if you believe what he wrote is true, you need to do some serious research (savage's website doesnt count). here, ill even help.

    how is it inflammatory? because he is posting things without proof which are obviously meant to upset obama's supporters. THAT makes him a troll. deny it all you like, though, i know you will.
     
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    Obama, Democrats & Creeping Socialism in the U.S.
    "During his NAACP speech earlier this month, Sen. Obama repeated the term at least four times. "I've been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served," he said at the group's 99th annual convention in Cincinnati.

    Democrat Barack Obama arrives in Washington on Monday. On the campaign trail, Obama has styled himself a centrist. But a look at those who've served as his advisers and mentors over the years shows a far more left-leaning tilt to his background - and to his politics.

    And as president, "we'll ensure that economic justice is served," he asserted. "That's what this election is about." Obama never spelled out the meaning of the term, but he didn't have to. His audience knew what he meant, judging from its thumping approval.

    It's the rest of the public that remains in the dark, which is why we're launching this special educational series.

    "Economic justice" simply means punishing the successful and redistributing their wealth by government fiat. It's a euphemism for socialism."

    ...
    " Following this discredited Marxist model, he believes government must step in and redistribute pieces of the pie. That requires massive transfers of wealth through government taxing and spending, a return to the entitlement days of old.

    Of course, Obama is too smart to try to smuggle such hoary collectivist garbage through the front door. He's disguising the wealth transfers as "investments" - "to make America more competitive," he says, or "that give us a fighting chance," whatever that means.

    Among his proposed "investments":
    "Universal," "guaranteed" health care.
    "Free" college tuition.
    "Universal national service" (a la Havana).
    "Universal 401(k)s" (in which the government would match contributions made by "low- and moderate-income families").
    "Free" job training (even for criminals).
    "Wage insurance" (to supplement dislocated union workers' old income levels).
    "Free" child care and "universal" preschool.
    More subsidized public housing.
    A fatter earned income tax credit for "working poor."
    And even a Global Poverty Act that amounts to a Marshall Plan for the Third World, first and foremost Africa. "
     
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    wow, you can post an opinion article, which you complain about when other people do that. and guess what? come closer. closer. UNDER BUSH AND THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS THE WEALTHY STILL HAD HIGHER TAX RATES THAN THE POOR. the article is complaining about little more than the wealthy having higher taxes, and that has existed under libs and cons. try again to show these sweeping changes obama will implement to turn us all into the evil socialists. free college? when was that said? universal coverage? you mean his plan to allow everyone to afford insurance, where the hospitals would still be private? job training for criminals? you mean rehabbing them instead of having the revolving door prison system or simply killing them off or locking them up forever (which is expensive?) not worth my time to refute every little point
     
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