Voters Say They Know Health Care Bill Better Than Congress

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    Voters Say They Know Health Care Bill Better Than Congress - Rasmussen Reports™
     
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    I think this proves that people are susceptible to rhetoric. How do people know a bill better than the people who wrote it?
     
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    Actually, this is feasible, not likely, but feasible. To know something doesn't just mean you know what it says, but also have a good idea of what it will do. Congress sees things from the angle of enacting, voters see it from the angle of effect.
     
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    If the average cross section in a poll is anything like the cross section we have here.......I say 67% are puffing.
     
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    But that would also imply that all the respondents to the poll would have to have read it. Which is far beyond feasible.
     
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    So who wrote it? The handful of lawyers who work for the committees who wrote parts of the bills? The twenty or so members of the committee who voted on parts of it? In fact most members of Congress rely on what they read about the bill or are told about the bill just as members of the public do.
     
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    Why do you assume that? I mean, unless you yourself are a member of congress, and you haven't read it, how do you know who has read it and who has not. Can you give an example of a congressm member who has not read it?
     
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    Arlen Spector acknowledged he hadn't read it, and common sense should tell you that members of Congress cannot read all the bills they will vote on. Can you give me an example of a member of Congress you know read the bill?
     
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    link to Spector saying that? It's their jobs to read the bill - and there's no reason to assume that they have not read it. The controversy around this bill is reason to assume that everyone has read it. Unless you can provide some evidence that they have not read it, its safe to assume that they have, even though that might conflict with your rhetoric on how useless the congress is.
     
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    Because the congress didn't write it and fully 2/3's haven't read it.

    I would say that the people DO understand the bill better then they do. Thats why we are winning the debate. Because if Mr. Obama took the time to read what it is being proposed, he would come to realize that the legislation comes no where near his rhetoric.
     

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