Voter manipulation. Russia or MSM?

What did he lie about, and what incriminating evidence did they want that a he destroyed?

Your leaders are lying to you..and they are not trying to stop it..It makes me so mad.

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Oh gee, well you have me convinced. One person says Pence is wrong.

Let me ask: when DumBama set out to influence Israel elections, did you have a problem with that too, or was that okay since it was Hussein doing it?

Question two: Do you really believe this is the first time Russia tried or succeeded in interfering in our elections?

Question three: If Russia did influence elections under DumBama, why blame Trump for it? Shouldn't you be placing the blame on the leader of our country when it happened?

Stop derailing what Trump is avoiding to tell the people of the US ... He knows it is factual..
Obama gave the info to the intelligence
You all are just now coming out with , maybe Russia is hacking us. You all called us every name for being it up a year ago.

Wait a minute.
Barry gave the info to intelligence? That statement is hilarious in and of itself.
But if barry was so concerned about Russian hacking why didnt he demand hillary hand over her servers?

You are not even funny..

You're the one who keeps laughing.
 
All this talk about how Russia "may" have influenced our election. But did anybody consider how MSM does the same?

We have an economy that hasn't been seen in this country since Clinton. People are bringing home more pay. They are getting raises and bonuses. Stock market doing great, consumer and corporate confidence at it's highest levels in years. Lowest unemployment rate in the past few decades.

With all this and more, Trump's approval rating is only in the 50% range, and less by other measures. So how is this possible?

Unless Russia is hacking our polls, the only possible explanation is the MSM. The MSM controls the minds of many Americans; much more than Russia could possibly dream of. How do they do it?

Pew: Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive

Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative

Trump's right: His media coverage is mostly negative

Funny. I didn't include one link by Fox.

ISIS moved in and took control over parts of Iraq after DumBama pulled our troops out. It was after a war that cost us thousands of American and Iraqi lives, not to mention those who are permanently disabled for the remainder of their lives. The media take? It was Bush's war and he made the decision for Obama to pull our troops out.

Trump took over, listened and acted on the advice of his military leaders, and cleaned the terrorists out of Iraq. What did the media report? Nothing as far as I remember. They were too busy talking about his wife's shoes.

If Hillary was elected and had half of Trump's accomplishments, the media would be non-stop. They would have shown Iraqi citizens waiving American flags for months. A daily report on the improving economy. Interviews with business leaders and economists talking about a woman who was Making America Great again. With Trump.......nothing.

Don't worry about Russia influencing anything. Worry about our very own American media.

The Press always attacks the Republicans and spins everything positive for the Democrats.
The root reason for this bias is the Left's cultural hatred for mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, devout Christians, suburbanites, wasp, rich people, the middle class....etc.
You can also observe the Left’s loathing in Movies and TV shows.

What a retard...:lolly:

I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.
The truth of what Trog posted could not possibly be ignored by a sane person that is not blind, deaf and dumb. It will be ignored by all who are dumb, whether they see and hear well or not. You seem to fall in the latter category.
 
All this talk about how Russia "may" have influenced our election. But did anybody consider how MSM does the same?

We have an economy that hasn't been seen in this country since Clinton. People are bringing home more pay. They are getting raises and bonuses. Stock market doing great, consumer and corporate confidence at it's highest levels in years. Lowest unemployment rate in the past few decades.

With all this and more, Trump's approval rating is only in the 50% range, and less by other measures. So how is this possible?

Unless Russia is hacking our polls, the only possible explanation is the MSM. The MSM controls the minds of many Americans; much more than Russia could possibly dream of. How do they do it?

Pew: Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive

Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative

Trump's right: His media coverage is mostly negative

Funny. I didn't include one link by Fox.

ISIS moved in and took control over parts of Iraq after DumBama pulled our troops out. It was after a war that cost us thousands of American and Iraqi lives, not to mention those who are permanently disabled for the remainder of their lives. The media take? It was Bush's war and he made the decision for Obama to pull our troops out.

Trump took over, listened and acted on the advice of his military leaders, and cleaned the terrorists out of Iraq. What did the media report? Nothing as far as I remember. They were too busy talking about his wife's shoes.

If Hillary was elected and had half of Trump's accomplishments, the media would be non-stop. They would have shown Iraqi citizens waiving American flags for months. A daily report on the improving economy. Interviews with business leaders and economists talking about a woman who was Making America Great again. With Trump.......nothing.

Don't worry about Russia influencing anything. Worry about our very own American media.

The Press always attacks the Republicans and spins everything positive for the Democrats.
The root reason for this bias is the Left's cultural hatred for mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, devout Christians, suburbanites, wasp, rich people, the middle class....etc.
You can also observe the Left’s loathing in Movies and TV shows.

What a retard...:lolly:

I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.
The truth of what Trog posted could not possibly be ignored by a sane person that is not blind, deaf and dumb. It will be ignored by all who are dumb, whether they see and hear well or not. You seem to fall in the latter category.

LOL..so you are agreeing that the rich, christian, smart, Midwestern, middle class are all being attacked by the left media, really?
 
All this talk about how Russia "may" have influenced our election. But did anybody consider how MSM does the same?

We have an economy that hasn't been seen in this country since Clinton. People are bringing home more pay. They are getting raises and bonuses. Stock market doing great, consumer and corporate confidence at it's highest levels in years. Lowest unemployment rate in the past few decades.

With all this and more, Trump's approval rating is only in the 50% range, and less by other measures. So how is this possible?

Unless Russia is hacking our polls, the only possible explanation is the MSM. The MSM controls the minds of many Americans; much more than Russia could possibly dream of. How do they do it?

Pew: Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive

Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative

Trump's right: His media coverage is mostly negative

Funny. I didn't include one link by Fox.

ISIS moved in and took control over parts of Iraq after DumBama pulled our troops out. It was after a war that cost us thousands of American and Iraqi lives, not to mention those who are permanently disabled for the remainder of their lives. The media take? It was Bush's war and he made the decision for Obama to pull our troops out.

Trump took over, listened and acted on the advice of his military leaders, and cleaned the terrorists out of Iraq. What did the media report? Nothing as far as I remember. They were too busy talking about his wife's shoes.

If Hillary was elected and had half of Trump's accomplishments, the media would be non-stop. They would have shown Iraqi citizens waiving American flags for months. A daily report on the improving economy. Interviews with business leaders and economists talking about a woman who was Making America Great again. With Trump.......nothing.

Don't worry about Russia influencing anything. Worry about our very own American media.

The Press always attacks the Republicans and spins everything positive for the Democrats.
The root reason for this bias is the Left's cultural hatred for mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, devout Christians, suburbanites, wasp, rich people, the middle class....etc.
You can also observe the Left’s loathing in Movies and TV shows.

What a retard...:lolly:

I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.
The truth of what Trog posted could not possibly be ignored by a sane person that is not blind, deaf and dumb. It will be ignored by all who are dumb, whether they see and hear well or not. You seem to fall in the latter category.

LOL..so you are agreeing that the rich, christian, smart, Midwestern, middle class are all being attacked by the left media, really?

So tell me EW.
Why do they constantly refer to the midwest and Southern States as fly over country?
And of course there's the Deplorable moniker hillary placed on them.
You clowns constantly deride the these places and you're going to deny bias?

How do you come to your conclusions when all the evidence says otherwise?
 
Your leaders are lying to you..and they are not trying to stop it..It makes me so mad.

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Did you read the whole article?

Yes, why

It flat out said there was no way to measure whether individual votes were changed by Russian propaganda. What Clapper said was his opinion.

I have yet to find anyone who was influenced in my personal life or on this board by Russian propaganda to vote for Trump.
:desk:
I have...... anyone who watches MSNBC or CNN (COMMIE NEWS NETWORK) regularly.
:th_thgoodpost:

My sister is a walking talking Fox News..we have learned to not talk politics, because we have gotten into some big arguments..
Watching Fox News will rot your brain.

Watching MSNBC or CNN will cause you to either vote Democrat or shoot up a High School.
 
The entire political process involves trying to manipulate voters.

Just sayin'.
 
Did you read the whole article?

Yes, why

It flat out said there was no way to measure whether individual votes were changed by Russian propaganda. What Clapper said was his opinion.

I have yet to find anyone who was influenced in my personal life or on this board by Russian propaganda to vote for Trump.
:desk:
I have...... anyone who watches MSNBC or CNN (COMMIE NEWS NETWORK) regularly.
:th_thgoodpost:

My sister is a walking talking Fox News..we have learned to not talk politics, because we have gotten into some big arguments..
Watching Fox News will rot your brain.

Watching MSNBC or CNN will cause you to either vote Democrat or shoot up a High School.

Ohhh Mudwhistle... the florida shooter was trained in a white supremacy group..the news is out..

.
 

It flat out said there was no way to measure whether individual votes were changed by Russian propaganda. What Clapper said was his opinion.

I have yet to find anyone who was influenced in my personal life or on this board by Russian propaganda to vote for Trump.
:desk:
I have...... anyone who watches MSNBC or CNN (COMMIE NEWS NETWORK) regularly.
:th_thgoodpost:

My sister is a walking talking Fox News..we have learned to not talk politics, because we have gotten into some big arguments..
Watching Fox News will rot your brain.

Watching MSNBC or CNN will cause you to either vote Democrat or shoot up a High School.

Ohhh Mudwhistle... the florida shooter was trained in a white supremacy group..the news is out..

.
Bullshit.
They said he went once......possibly more than once.
That doesn't make him a radical White Supremacist.

I went to a Catholic mass once......that doesn't make me Catholic.
 
The entire political process involves trying to manipulate voters.

Just sayin'.

When a Foreign country mere purpose to cause chaos and division , send out millions of trolls.. change bills , steal identities is not ok.

.

Well duh. Then perhaps Facebook, Twitter and Google should be regulated like utilities or media companies.
 
It flat out said there was no way to measure whether individual votes were changed by Russian propaganda. What Clapper said was his opinion.

I have yet to find anyone who was influenced in my personal life or on this board by Russian propaganda to vote for Trump.
:desk:
I have...... anyone who watches MSNBC or CNN (COMMIE NEWS NETWORK) regularly.
:th_thgoodpost:

My sister is a walking talking Fox News..we have learned to not talk politics, because we have gotten into some big arguments..
Watching Fox News will rot your brain.

Watching MSNBC or CNN will cause you to either vote Democrat or shoot up a High School.

Ohhh Mudwhistle... the florida shooter was trained in a white supremacy group..the news is out..

.
Bullshit.
They said he went once......possibly more than once.
That doesn't make him a radical White Supremacist.

I went to a Catholic mass once......that doesn't make me Catholic.

He doesn't sound like a democrat to me..:10:

Three former schoolmates of Cruz told ABC News that Cruz was part of the group. They claimed he marched with the group frequently and was often seen with Jereb, who also confirmed to ABC News that Cruz was, at least at one point, part of that group.

Jereb told the ADL that ROF had not ordered Cruz to take any such action. He told ABC News he has not spoken to Cruz in “some time” but said "he knew he would getting this call." He would not comment further but emphasized that his group was not a terrorist organization.

Florida white supremacy group admits Parkland school shooter recently trained with them
 
The entire political process involves trying to manipulate voters.

Just sayin'.

When a Foreign country mere purpose to cause chaos and division , send out millions of trolls.. change bills , steal identities is not ok.

.

Well duh. Then perhaps Facebook, Twitter and Google should be regulated like utilities or media companies.

Says the party of less government..lol

Facebook has hired 30,000 security people..Twitter is shutting down Russian hackers everyday.
 
All this talk about how Russia "may" have influenced our election. But did anybody consider how MSM does the same?

We have an economy that hasn't been seen in this country since Clinton. People are bringing home more pay. They are getting raises and bonuses. Stock market doing great, consumer and corporate confidence at it's highest levels in years. Lowest unemployment rate in the past few decades.

With all this and more, Trump's approval rating is only in the 50% range, and less by other measures. So how is this possible?

Unless Russia is hacking our polls, the only possible explanation is the MSM. The MSM controls the minds of many Americans; much more than Russia could possibly dream of. How do they do it?

Pew: Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive

Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative

Trump's right: His media coverage is mostly negative

Funny. I didn't include one link by Fox.

ISIS moved in and took control over parts of Iraq after DumBama pulled our troops out. It was after a war that cost us thousands of American and Iraqi lives, not to mention those who are permanently disabled for the remainder of their lives. The media take? It was Bush's war and he made the decision for Obama to pull our troops out.

Trump took over, listened and acted on the advice of his military leaders, and cleaned the terrorists out of Iraq. What did the media report? Nothing as far as I remember. They were too busy talking about his wife's shoes.

If Hillary was elected and had half of Trump's accomplishments, the media would be non-stop. They would have shown Iraqi citizens waiving American flags for months. A daily report on the improving economy. Interviews with business leaders and economists talking about a woman who was Making America Great again. With Trump.......nothing.

Don't worry about Russia influencing anything. Worry about our very own American media.

The Press always attacks the Republicans and spins everything positive for the Democrats.
The root reason for this bias is the Left's cultural hatred for mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, devout Christians, suburbanites, wasp, rich people, the middle class....etc.
You can also observe the Left’s loathing in Movies and TV shows.

What a retard...:lolly:

I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.
The truth of what Trog posted could not possibly be ignored by a sane person that is not blind, deaf and dumb. It will be ignored by all who are dumb, whether they see and hear well or not. You seem to fall in the latter category.

LOL..so you are agreeing that the rich, christian, smart, Midwestern, middle class are all being attacked by the left media, really?

So tell me EW.
Why do they constantly refer to the midwest and Southern States as fly over country?
And of course there's the Deplorable moniker hillary placed on them.
You clowns constantly deride the these places and you're going to deny bias?

How do you come to your conclusions when all the evidence says otherwise?

I am from the Midwest goofy... every american was affected..
 
The entire political process involves trying to manipulate voters.

Just sayin'.

When a Foreign country mere purpose to cause chaos and division , send out millions of trolls.. change bills , steal identities is not ok.

.

Well duh. Then perhaps Facebook, Twitter and Google should be regulated like utilities or media companies.

Says the party of less government..lol

Facebook has hired 30,000 security people..Twitter is shutting down Russian hackers everyday.


Both Facebook and Twitter are partisan censors. They distribute news media - and yet disavow that they provide content. That's one of the basic problems here. Their business models try to absolve them of responsibility, but they profit by pushing ads with the offending content. They are trying to have it both ways.
 
The entire political process involves trying to manipulate voters.

Just sayin'.

When a Foreign country mere purpose to cause chaos and division , send out millions of trolls.. change bills , steal identities is not ok.

.

Well duh. Then perhaps Facebook, Twitter and Google should be regulated like utilities or media companies.

Says the party of less government..lol

Facebook has hired 30,000 security people..Twitter is shutting down Russian hackers everyday.


Both Facebook and Twitter are partisan censors. They distribute news media - and yet disavow that they provide content. That's one of the basic problems here. Their business models try to absolve them of responsibility, but they profit by pushing ads with the offending content. They are trying to have it both ways.

Well facebook is getting really bad with the ad's.. I don't see them as much on twitter.

I did hear someone in the WH say that putting laws on these guys is messing with our 2nd amendment ..

.
 
All this talk about how Russia "may" have influenced our election. But did anybody consider how MSM does the same?

We have an economy that hasn't been seen in this country since Clinton. People are bringing home more pay. They are getting raises and bonuses. Stock market doing great, consumer and corporate confidence at it's highest levels in years. Lowest unemployment rate in the past few decades.

With all this and more, Trump's approval rating is only in the 50% range, and less by other measures. So how is this possible?

Unless Russia is hacking our polls, the only possible explanation is the MSM. The MSM controls the minds of many Americans; much more than Russia could possibly dream of. How do they do it?

Pew: Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive

Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative

Trump's right: His media coverage is mostly negative

Funny. I didn't include one link by Fox.

ISIS moved in and took control over parts of Iraq after DumBama pulled our troops out. It was after a war that cost us thousands of American and Iraqi lives, not to mention those who are permanently disabled for the remainder of their lives. The media take? It was Bush's war and he made the decision for Obama to pull our troops out.

Trump took over, listened and acted on the advice of his military leaders, and cleaned the terrorists out of Iraq. What did the media report? Nothing as far as I remember. They were too busy talking about his wife's shoes.

If Hillary was elected and had half of Trump's accomplishments, the media would be non-stop. They would have shown Iraqi citizens waiving American flags for months. A daily report on the improving economy. Interviews with business leaders and economists talking about a woman who was Making America Great again. With Trump.......nothing.

Don't worry about Russia influencing anything. Worry about our very own American media.
The media is without doubt the biggest influence on our election process, but the biggest meddler without doubt in the 2016 election was/is the mayor of london...there needs to be an investigation into him and his allies here.
 
The Press always attacks the Republicans and spins everything positive for the Democrats.
The root reason for this bias is the Left's cultural hatred for mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, devout Christians, suburbanites, wasp, rich people, the middle class....etc.
You can also observe the Left’s loathing in Movies and TV shows.

What a retard...:lolly:

I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.
The truth of what Trog posted could not possibly be ignored by a sane person that is not blind, deaf and dumb. It will be ignored by all who are dumb, whether they see and hear well or not. You seem to fall in the latter category.

LOL..so you are agreeing that the rich, christian, smart, Midwestern, middle class are all being attacked by the left media, really?

So tell me EW.
Why do they constantly refer to the midwest and Southern States as fly over country?
And of course there's the Deplorable moniker hillary placed on them.
You clowns constantly deride the these places and you're going to deny bias?

How do you come to your conclusions when all the evidence says otherwise?

I am from the Midwest goofy... every american was affected..

So you don't mind being slandered by the left.
 

It flat out said there was no way to measure whether individual votes were changed by Russian propaganda. What Clapper said was his opinion.

I have yet to find anyone who was influenced in my personal life or on this board by Russian propaganda to vote for Trump.
:desk:
I have...... anyone who watches MSNBC or CNN (COMMIE NEWS NETWORK) regularly.
:th_thgoodpost:

My sister is a walking talking Fox News..we have learned to not talk politics, because we have gotten into some big arguments..
Watching Fox News will rot your brain.

Watching MSNBC or CNN will cause you to either vote Democrat or shoot up a High School.

Ohhh Mudwhistle... the florida shooter was trained in a white supremacy group..the news is out..

.

I would wait unit the dust settles before making that claim. I already seen a post on FB that the investigators found no truth to that.
 
Oh please. If anybody else did what she did they would be locked up for life.

She destroyed evidence; some of it subpoenaed by the US Congress.
She lied repeatedly under oath.
She carelessly forwarded classified material to her but buddy OOOOMA who's husband used that computer to send dic pictures to strangers on the internet.
She smashed government cell phones to hide her nefarious activities.

So then Sessions should go to jail for lying under Oath Ray?

What did he lie about, and what incriminating evidence did they want that a he destroyed?

Your leaders are lying to you..and they are not trying to stop it..It makes me so mad.

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Oh gee, well you have me convinced. One person says Pence is wrong.

Let me ask: when DumBama set out to influence Israel elections, did you have a problem with that too, or was that okay since it was Hussein doing it?

Question two: Do you really believe this is the first time Russia tried or succeeded in interfering in our elections?

Question three: If Russia did influence elections under DumBama, why blame Trump for it? Shouldn't you be placing the blame on the leader of our country when it happened?

Stop derailing what Trump is avoiding to tell the people of the US ... He knows it is factual..
Obama gave the info to the intelligence
You all are just now coming out with , maybe Russia is hacking us. You all called us every name for being it up a year ago.

DumBama gave intelligence of what? Are you now admitting he was part of this plot with the FBI and DOJ?

And what is Trump avoiding telling the USA?
 
So then Sessions should go to jail for lying under Oath Ray?

What did he lie about, and what incriminating evidence did they want that a he destroyed?

Your leaders are lying to you..and they are not trying to stop it..It makes me so mad.

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Clapper disputes Pence: 'It stretches credulity' to say Russians didn't impact election

Oh gee, well you have me convinced. One person says Pence is wrong.

Let me ask: when DumBama set out to influence Israel elections, did you have a problem with that too, or was that okay since it was Hussein doing it?

Question two: Do you really believe this is the first time Russia tried or succeeded in interfering in our elections?

Question three: If Russia did influence elections under DumBama, why blame Trump for it? Shouldn't you be placing the blame on the leader of our country when it happened?

Stop derailing what Trump is avoiding to tell the people of the US ... He knows it is factual..
Obama gave the info to the intelligence
You all are just now coming out with , maybe Russia is hacking us. You all called us every name for being it up a year ago.

DumBama gave intelligence of what? Are you now admitting he was part of this plot with the FBI and DOJ?

And what is Trump avoiding telling the USA?

Obama gave the reports of Russian hacking us to the intelligence.. Trump has been doing the fake news crap, while the real news is we are getting hack today by the Russians..
I would call it a terrorist attack..but you all don't believe it because he is misleading you.
 

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