Freewill
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Ok, I will admit it, it is all my fault, where do I send the check?I wonder why you only seem to have "seen" the part of my post that bothered you, and not the entire second paragraph.This is so typical. Is there racism, yes. Is racism holding back people of any color, no as much as claimed as witnessed by Michelle Obama.It just ain't that tough. Admit that racism still exists. Admit that there is denial that racism still exists. Admit that a few cops have done indefensible things. Admit that it's not a black kid's fault if they're brought up in terrible conditions. Just admit that the other "side", for all its faults, has some perfectly reasonable and defensible positions.You did and I articulated it for you. As usual you talk in dream land. All people have to do is look in the mirror. WTF does that even mean? It is code just like I said.I'm communicating in "code" now?Code for white man is at fault, we all know it, it is time whitey realizes it and allows blacks to leap frog them in every conceivable area.
When I started in the Navy I enrolled in the Nuclear power program. There were whites and a few blacks. I saw nothing that was holding back the blacks. Not in the military where everything is regimented. But not one black finished, that I saw. 4 years on a submarine and the only minority, not black, that I saw worked in the galley.
And no one told me?
Dang, I thought I was just pointing out the obvious.
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OK, even though you are devoid of actual answers I did look into the mirror. By gosh what I saw was I was at fault for black men abandoning their families. It is all my fault. Now I need your sage advice in what the f..k you want me to do about it.
Then, after you've done that, ask the person from the other "side" to do the same thing. Ask them to admit that they have enabled some of Black America's worst behaviors by spinning and deflecting for them. Ask them to admit that the Soft Bigotry of Reduced Expectations is real and destructive. Ask them to admit that, for all your faults, your "side" has some perfectly reasonable and defensible positions.
Then, if you get that far, have a normal conversation with them and look for common ground. Give a little. Go from there.
It really is a shame that I have to say any of this. This is just standard communication between reasonable adults. If we've lost the capacity to just communicate like reasonable adults., then it's over. And it would only be over because we were lazy and childish and narcissistic.
That's not dream land. That's adulthood. Too bad the two are now easily confused.
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You act as if people are going out of their way to put down blacks. YES, some are, a some, always will be. Just like there are blacks that put down whites and want them killed. Those are the outliers the nation shouldn't be judged by those people.
Is it easy starting from the slums, hell no but there are more whites starting there then there are blacks. (numbers not percent)
You talk as if it were 1950, there are protections for those of color. Maybe there will always be racism, maybe, but the effects of that racism is more "feelings" then actual consequences.
Should a running back in the NFL be hobbled so that that a white man can compete with the black man's speed?
What is frustrating and infuriating is we have done what you speak of. We have programs on programs to HELP those in poverty out of poverty. But we CAN'T make people stay with their families. We can't make the black man assume responsibility for those they sire.
The TV over represents blacks in accordance with their percentage of the population, is that racism? In both new shows and ads one would think that America is 75 percent black. The NFL with stadiums full of white people watching blacks play a game, is that racism?
Where is the protest from Jews? There sure is a lot of people in this country that hates Jews, including many blacks. How about the Italians, they overcame. Along with the Irish and Asians.
When I see YOU, BLM, the NAACP and others effectively do something about one parent households then I will think you serious about trying to help the black family. And it would also help a whole lot of white families.
But this tried asses BS of blaming everyone else because the black community can't get it shit together is getting really, really old.
You telling me, who worked myself out of a lower middle class all on my own, that I somehow have to give what I earned all on my own to someone else to make it better for them and worse for me, just ain't gonna cut it. Especially coming from a financial advisor.
When you first saw the video, what did you think of the race? You saw athletic looking blacks up against pudgy white and young white girls. What did you immediately think? Be honest, you thought there is no way a white person would win the race. I bet money you did. Thus immediately you used racism and profiling to make a judgement. You are doing what we see in society, saying that because of racism, by a few, whites are actually inferior to blacks and without special help whites would never win the race.
That kinda of racism is going to make me dislike blacks so much more then anything a white supremacist might say or do.
I take back my post. Don't do anything. Just stay in your comfy ideological foxhole, lobbing grenades. That's working out great.
Hopefully, at some point, enough people who realize that this will require humility and honest communication will have more influence.
Don't bother.
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Let me give you an example you might understand.
I come into your office with 10,000 dollars to invest. If you don't laugh me out because it is too little, you ask how I want it invested, aggressive or conservative. You do that so you take no responsibility if the wrong choice is made. So you invest the money, taking your share. Then another person comes in with 10 million and you asked and do exactly the same thing as you did for me. At what time can I expect I will catch up with the other investor?
So I look at the two of us and see that his investments have grown much bigger then mine. Not faster just bigger. So I come to see you mac and ask you why. The only answer I have is because I started out at an unfair position. It isn't fair that the other investor has more money then I. I want equality. So what happens?