Victims of Communism

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    Of all tyrannies in history, the Bolshevik tyranny is the
    worst, the most destructive, the most degrading. Every
    British and French soldier killed last year was really done
    to death by Lenin and Trotsky not in fair war, but by the
    treacherous desertion of an ally without parallel in the
    history of the world.

    Churchill - 1919 Speech, London,11 Apr.
     
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    Hungary and Poland can easily tell you what it was like under communism; no lies needed.
     
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    Russia internationally looks bad no matter what kind of lighting you prefer.
     
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    You talk about have no idea.
    There was no any tyranny. Absolute bulshit. There was only wrong way of ruling the economy.

    You from west judge basing on 0,5 or even less per cent of information
     
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    your wet dreams are not internationally distributed yet, be informed.
     
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    both were independent and respected countries with factories running and domestic products massively outdoing imported goods.
     
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    Life in countries even a degree under communism was ridiculously surreal and contrary to human nature.
     
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    Communism is enervating to the human spirit. It is not in accord with who we are and how we will comport ourselves no matter what any inteligensia desires.
     
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    As I mentioned earlier you do not understand what communism is.
    The idea of communism is very good and it is how humanity will live in future.
    Communism never existed yet.

    What you call communist countries were just socialist countries but that kind of political system was not even socialistic...just more orientated to increasing of social standards of all citizens without any exclusions.

    You blame communism as some inhuman ideology but it is wrong. Will try to explain why:
    There were mistakes in political system of the USSR and others socialistic states but they referred to way of ruling economy. And the only really serious mistake was that economy was not balanced well.
    The USA and Western Europe's authorities were afraid communist ideas could become strong and began fighting them - do you suppose it free and democratic? In 1950s communist ideas were very strong in the world. And there were huge number of imprisoned activists in USA and other western countries. Huge anti communist propaganda started saying scary tales about living in socialist countries, huge pressure on those countries began, so they had to get closed. As a result - closed borders, people couldn't communicate and the cold war began.
    In order to make communism/socialism less attractive western countries increased greatly living standards of citizens.

    You know after 27 years of "free" living most people of former USSR wish USSR would never collapse and still existed. Do you know why?
    Because life in the USSR was easier and more pleasant than it is now.
    - medical care is free and of high quality; (like in Russia now)
    - education is free and of high quality (like in Russia now);
    - everyone had appartment for living;
    - no unemployment at all;
    - incredibly low level of criminal.

    If there wasn't that confrontation between western countries and USSR humanity would be much much more developed now and there weren't any wars at all.
    Look deeper to the reasons of all wars, confrontation and you will realize it is all because of wish to get more power and money. But it was Stalin's time when USSR stopped Lenin's idea of world revolution. Stalin's idea was to live in peace with west and to develope USSR + eastern Europe... the only thing USSR did was bearing of communist standards to not developed countries in Asia, Africa, South America which lead to wars against USA backed groups.
    So who is the one more guilty in all those conflicts and long-term confrontations? You think USSR, I am sure - USA.

    And a lot is said about 'Gulags'. Political prisoners were in both sides. But in the USSR there were many executions...because it was a war time.
    From 1930s till 1950s there were huge number of spies - German first, British and American later who not just looked for some information but were organizing terroristic actions, created antigovernment war squads, made mischiefs and scathed in industry and agriculture. How else could government keep order in conditions of total ruined country with 20 millions of able to work population killed by war?

    So guys, you all are victims of lying propaganda
     
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    Of course I do. Chances are very, very good I have studied the concept in greater detail than you ever shall. It is an anathema to human nature, and that is why in every iteration to whatever degree it has always and will always fail. Humans are not fish humans are not birds humans are not broccoli and humans will not live according to communism. You don’t like it, tough shit. That is the way it is.
     
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