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The entire US Federal, State and Local Govts are corrupt to the core and nobody cares. We have an illegal alien in the White House for God sakes who like Bush and Clinton and Bush let illegal aliens run around everywhere doing whatever they please. The fake 911Movement is running in place and nobody is ever brought to 911Justice and that is never going to change in this pathetic and corrupt nation of liars, murderers and thieves. America is simply not America anymore and the sheeple need to get accustomed to living in a third-world country where police state brutality is commonplace and the average subject can barely afford to pay for food.Spread the word and research what the real issues are with the NIST investigation and the problems the families of the victims of 9-11 and many others have with the explanation that was told to the country.
How many people died in the collapse of WTC7?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHo5hNCvLb4&feature=player_embedded
Spread the word and research what the real issues are with the NIST investigation and the problems the families of the victims of 9-11 and many others have with the explanation that was told to the country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHo5hNCvLb4&feature=player_embedded
Spread the word and research what the real issues are with the NIST investigation and the problems the families of the victims of 9-11 and many others have with the explanation that was told to the country.
Chandle said:The collapse we see cannot be due to a column failure, or a few column failures, or a sequence of column failures. All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second, and in such a way that the top half of the building remains intact and uncrumpled.
Chandler said:All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second,
Chandler said:What is particularly striking is the suddenness of onset of free fall. Acceleration doesnt build up gradually. The graph [measuring the buildings descent] simply turns a corner. The building went from full support to zero support instantly.
How exactly do you suppose these support columns failed in a building with low temp and sporadic fires?Now I ask you. Every video I have seen shows the east penthouse collapsing into the building which means the support columns failed. Then it proceeded to the west.
No moron..then the whole 47 story building came down in uniformity. What are you fucking blind,stupid or both?Then the facade fell.
How do you know they did not? Oh wait....8 tenths of a secondCan you please explain to me how Chandler can make a quote such as that when CLEARLY all 24 columns and all 58 perimeter columns did not, REPEAT DID NOT, fail at the same time as he claims should have happened?
No this is great stuff..you make yourself look like an ignorant blind idiot.This is great stuff. He actually debunks himself.
Sure...He screwed up so bad that he all by himself made NIST look like stupid liars when his calculations made them admit freefall..for 2.25 seconds! You are a damned fool!No answers Mr. Jones?
Don't want to talk about how your man Chandler screwed up?
Didn't think so.
less than 1` sec lol...ya that explains everything I guess that means any controlled demolition with a point of a sec delay is actually a fire induced collapseHere's another quote from Chandler. One that makes you and evryone else looklike idiots, INCLUDING eots.
Chandler said:What is particularly striking is the suddenness of onset of free fall. Acceleration doesnt build up gradually. The graph [measuring the buildings descent] simply turns a corner. The building went from full support to zero support instantly.
Hmmm.
Totally missed the .8 seconds of non free fall didn't he. Yeah. That's instantly.
less than 1` sec lol...ya that explains everything I guess that means any controlled demolition with a point of a sec delay is actually a fire induced collapseHere's another quote from Chandler. One that makes you and evryone else looklike idiots, INCLUDING eots.
Chandler said:What is particularly striking is the suddenness of onset of free fall. Acceleration doesnt build up gradually. The graph [measuring the buildings descent] simply turns a corner. The building went from full support to zero support instantly.
Hmmm.
Totally missed the .8 seconds of non free fall didn't he. Yeah. That's instantly.
Alright smartass perhaps you can share you knowledge by explaining away these facts about NIST's report? Why did NIST leave these important facts out?Ahhhh, truthtard losers being suckered out of their money by a bunch of liars who milk them for all they are worth. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of fucked up liars. Think a commercial changes the truth? Nope. Just like Mr. Jones' videos with "clear explosions" of non-explosives going off proves the non-explosives. Truthtard paranoia and delusions are getting worse I see.
How do you know they did not?
How do you know they did not?
How do I know? Because the damn penthouse collapsed FIRST you fucking idiot. What the hell do you think was supporting the penthouse? Toothpicks? The columns below the penthouse clearly failed for it to collapse into the building BEFORE the perimeter facade came down. That means that the interior columns DID not fail/get removed at the same time as the facade columns. Chandler is an idiot.
Jesus H. Christ are you a moron. The lengths you go to to TRY and look intelligent on this subject is just beyond words.
How do you know they did not?
How do I know? Because the damn penthouse collapsed FIRST you fucking idiot. What the hell do you think was supporting the penthouse? Toothpicks? The columns below the penthouse clearly failed for it to collapse into the building BEFORE the perimeter facade came down. That means that the interior columns DID not fail/get removed at the same time as the facade columns. Chandler is an idiot.
Jesus H. Christ are you a moron. The lengths you go to to TRY and look intelligent on this subject is just beyond words.
so you are saying the building consisted of only columns supporting the penthouse and all others were "facaded columns"
no mention of the eutectic steel found on the site, fema reported: the severe corrosion of and subsequent erosion of (steel) samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. A detailed study of the mechanism of this phenomenon is needed. and the deep mystery of sulfur found on the steel quoted from wpi transformations spring 2002: the new york times called these findings "perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation." the significance of the work on a sample from building 7 and a structural column from one of the twin towers becomes apparent only when one sees these heavy chunks of damaged metal. A one-inch column has been reduced to half-inch thickness. Its edges--which are curled like a paper scroll--have been thinned to almost razor sharpness. Gaping holes--some larger than a silver dollar--let light shine through a formerly solid steel flange. This swiss cheese appearance shocked all of the fire-wise professors, who expected to see distortion and bending--but not holes. A eutectic compound is a mixture of two or more substances that melts at the lowest temperature of any mixture of its components. Blacksmiths took advantage of this property by welding over fires of sulfur-rich charcoal, which lowers the melting point of iron. In the world trade center fire, the presence of oxygen, sulfur and heat caused iron oxide and iron sulfide to form at the surface of structural steel members. This liquid slag corroded through intergranular channels into the body of the metal, causing severe erosion and a loss of structural integrity.
an office fire will not cause a eutectic state for the steel found by fema. Sulfur, from a thermite reaction, could very well cause this eutectic state.
How do I know? Because the damn penthouse collapsed FIRST you fucking idiot. What the hell do you think was supporting the penthouse? Toothpicks? The columns below the penthouse clearly failed for it to collapse into the building BEFORE the perimeter facade came down. That means that the interior columns DID not fail/get removed at the same time as the facade columns. Chandler is an idiot.
Jesus H. Christ are you a moron. The lengths you go to to TRY and look intelligent on this subject is just beyond words.
so you are saying the building consisted of only columns supporting the penthouse and all others were "facaded columns"
No.
There were 24 columns in the center of the building and 58 perimeter columns (facade) as shown here.
If column 79 failed, what happened to the loads that column 79 supported in that area? How many trusses and girders do you see attached to column 79 in the above diagram. Now multiply that by how many floors. Where did all that weight go when column 79 failed?
so you are saying the building consisted of only columns supporting the penthouse and all others were "facaded columns"
No.
There were 24 columns in the center of the building and 58 perimeter columns (facade) as shown here.
If column 79 failed, what happened to the loads that column 79 supported in that area? How many trusses and girders do you see attached to column 79 in the above diagram. Now multiply that by how many floors. Where did all that weight go when column 79 failed?
Thermal expansion of floor beams breaking its beam seat connection and then causing a global collapse has never happened before, and very highly unlikely. Structural engineers do not design connections for lateral forces from thermal expansion because it is so rare. No structure before or after 9/11 has ever globally failed due to thermal expansion and its very doubtful if it was the cause of the collapse of WTC 7.
Thermal expansion for a 53 foot beam with a delta T of 654 F (752 body temp) is less then 2.7 inches.
If column 79 did distort due to the thermal expansion, we go back to what caused it, there is no solid proof that the fires were hot enough to cause this "house of card from the inside" collapse.
They are asking you to believe something that never ever happened before, all due to one column? Do you even take into account the safety factor that building was designed with, considering the multi million dollar security center upgrades?
You are more of a fool to believe such outrageous claims, the cartoonish computer model that looks nothing like the real collapse included.
People like you don't fathom the enormity and strength of the components used in these buildings, nor the fact that the damage was mostly localized, therefore the building should not have come down in a straight manner.
COMMAND CENTER
WTC 7 SQUIBS
All those attached beams and columns, and no sign of resistance-"There were 24 columns in the center of the building and 58 perimeter columns"-the outer facade-yet no sign of perimeter distortion, despite the columns being connected to them?
But you'll continue to say it didn't fall straight down and babble on about the penthouse, while failing to realize that the penthouse was attached to the roof, and we did NOT see the roofline distort to one side or the other, as the localized damage would have done, as the rigid part of the rest of the building would resist coming down.
When you add all the strange anomalies of that day, it's bad enough and highly suspicious, then throw in the absurdity of the 3 buildings coming down with all the characteristics of CD..well, it is simply too outrageous to believe.