Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

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U.S. Naval Institute - December 23, 2010

President Barack Obama was outmaneuvered by the Russians and should have abandoned the New START negotiations instead of seeking a political victory, says former nuclear plans monitor Vice Admiral Jerry Miller, USN (Ret).

“The Obama administration is continuing a dated policy in which we cannot even unilaterally reduce our own inventory of weapons and delivery systems without being on parity with the Russians,” Miller told the U.S. Naval Institute in Annapolis, Md. “We could give up plenty of deployed delivery systems and not adversely affect our national security one bit, but New START prohibits such action - so we are now stuck with some outmoded and useless elements in our nuke force.”

After meeting resistance from several Republicans, the U.S. Senate ratified the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) with Russia by a vote of 71-26 on Wednesday.

Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START | U.S. Naval Institute
 
And that's why the Joint Chiefs of Staff endorsed START?

U.S. Military Leaders and Bipartisan National Security Officials Overwhelmingly Support New START

On Dec. 16, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. James Cartwright said "all the Joint Chiefs are very much behind this treaty...we need START and we need it badly." The Joint Chiefs' support for the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty is broadly shared by senior U.S. military leaders and former national security officials from both sides of the aisle, including President George H.W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice, sectrateary of state to President George W. Bush

U.S. Military Leaders and Bipartisan National Security Officials Overwhelmingly Support New START | Arms Control Association
 
Nothing like OUR OWN PRESIDENT, Disarming us all the while the Russians are LAUGHING their asses off..

But hey, the Obama WON ONE, isn't that all that matters?
 
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It seems like every expert in the US was for START, but that didn't stop the ideologues who seriously lack the hands on knowledge these superior thinkers have to make ignorant claims.
Why do people make fools out of themselves? Because they are toys of their ideology!
 
So his complaint is that this treaty doesn't allow us to unilaterally disarm?

F'in hilarious. The conservatarian mind is a diabolical one, indeed.

If you'd actually read, you'd see that aint true. But go head and cherry pick there buddy......

You dredge up one retired geezer against the treaty and accuse the other poster of cherry picking?

lol, your debut here was inauspicious enough, and it's not improving with age.
 
So his complaint is that this treaty doesn't allow us to unilaterally disarm?

F'in hilarious. The conservatarian mind is a diabolical one, indeed.

If you'd actually read, you'd see that aint true. But go head and cherry pick there buddy......

You dredge up one retired geezer against the treaty and accuse the other poster of cherry picking?

lol, your debut here was inauspicious enough, and it's not improving with age.

So you can't refute his points either, telling, as is every other :lol: post of yours.
 
If you'd actually read, you'd see that aint true. But go head and cherry pick there buddy......

You dredge up one retired geezer against the treaty and accuse the other poster of cherry picking?

lol, your debut here was inauspicious enough, and it's not improving with age.

So you can't refute his points either, telling, as is every other :lol: post of yours.

His points were refuted long ago. Refutations don't expire just because trolls like you keep reposting the same crap.
 
If you'd actually read, you'd see that aint true. But go head and cherry pick there buddy......

You dredge up one retired geezer against the treaty and accuse the other poster of cherry picking?

lol, your debut here was inauspicious enough, and it's not improving with age.

So you can't refute his points either, telling, as is every other :lol: post of yours.

Here:

Everything refuted by a professional:

Op-Ed: “We Need New START Treaty in Force” | U.S. Department of State Blog
 
These ideologues are something else. 99% of the US's greatest minds say that START is great, including the top foreign policy minds of the right. BUT doesn't matter to people like (R)IGHTeous, even if START is a great deal for the US and the world because it's also good for Obama. Talk about a serious case of tunnelvision.
 
You dredge up one retired geezer against the treaty and accuse the other poster of cherry picking?

lol, your debut here was inauspicious enough, and it's not improving with age.

So you can't refute his points either, telling, as is every other :lol: post of yours.

His points were refuted long ago. Refutations don't expire just because trolls like you keep reposting the same crap.

LOL, now he just starts making shit up. I think the troll here would likely be the one with LESS THANKS, that's obviously YOU. The only thanks you likely get are from your flaming spam posts, and calling the kettle black, from lefty circle jerks.:lol:

That "geezer" is also an expert in this field, dumbass. Run along now.
 
These ideologues are something else. 99% of the US's greatest minds say that START is great, including the top foreign policy minds of the right. BUT doesn't matter to people like (R)IGHTeous, even if START is a great deal for the US and the world because it's also good for Obama. Talk about a serious case of tunnelvision.

Refute the points, or stop grandstanding noob.
 
Seriously..what is this conservative love affair with nukes?

It's ridiculous.

It's the best, most effective deterrent, EVER. It has enhanced our national security beyond words. Hence why reducing them, while shady, authoritarian, brutal Russia builds more in secret and continue to sell the ones it don't want to WHOEVER, is STUPID.

But seriously, what's this liberal love affair with ignorance/stupidity? Carbo won't answer, as he's obviously too busy indulging in said love affair.

Do tell.........
 
Let's see. We know all former presidents and secretaries of state (Dem and GOP) support this.

We know that R1 does not support this.

Hmmm . . . . why does R1 not support this if Bush the Elder and Bush the Younger and Rice and Powell and etc support it?
 
Fail Prez. is FAIL.:bang3:



U.S. Naval Institute - December 23, 2010

President Barack Obama was outmaneuvered by the Russians and should have abandoned the New START negotiations instead of seeking a political victory, says former nuclear plans monitor Vice Admiral Jerry Miller, USN (Ret).

“The Obama administration is continuing a dated policy in which we cannot even unilaterally reduce our own inventory of weapons and delivery systems without being on parity with the Russians,” Miller told the U.S. Naval Institute in Annapolis, Md. “We could give up plenty of deployed delivery systems and not adversely affect our national security one bit, but New START prohibits such action - so we are now stuck with some outmoded and useless elements in our nuke force.”

After meeting resistance from several Republicans, the U.S. Senate ratified the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) with Russia by a vote of 71-26 on Wednesday.

Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START | U.S. Naval Institute

Miller is as stupid as the guy that started this thread.

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Seriously..what is this conservative love affair with nukes?

It's ridiculous.

It's the best, most effective deterrent, EVER. It has enhanced our national security beyond words. Hence why reducing them, while shady, authoritarian, brutal Russia builds more in secret and continue to sell the ones it don't want to WHOEVER, is STUPID.

But seriously, what's this liberal love affair with ignorance/stupidity? Carbo won't answer, as he's obviously too busy indulging in said love affair.

Do tell.........

Trolling trolling trolling..

Keep those doggies trolling..:lol:
 
R1 "It's the best, most effective deterrent, EVER. It has enhanced our national security beyond words. Hence why reducing them, while shady, authoritarian, brutal Russia builds more in secret and continue to sell the ones it don't want to WHOEVER, is STUPID."

Take it up with the former presidents and secretaries of state. You are a trolling hack.
 
No one will refute the points of the OP, my points, or answer my latest question.....shame.

Instead, we get the Spazing Specter of Spam Starkey, Sallow calling the kettle black, and Shintao's usual screaming @ his computer for an hour troll flaming.:lol:
 

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