Very Scary

[MaggieMae]

So Bush sent us to war over lies, Obama keeps us there, and China pockets the money from our dead soldiers?

This just keeps getting better

Who's lies...the Dem's?

How can it be a lie if you felt they were there and couldn't find them.

The only ones lying are those claiming he lied.

But I suppose you have to lie about it to make it seem plausible that he lied.

Obama emits bold-faced lies in every single speech, lies that are immediately obvious, and you have the nerve to accuse Bush of lying. If Obama's talking he's lying...because the truth would ruin him.


Fucken Pathetic.

Of course you can never prove all those allegations. But I suppose to repeat your nonsense day in and day out makes you temporarily feel smug and warm and allows you to sleep better curled up in your little pod. Now THAT'S what's pathetic.

 

[MaggieMae]

Lets spends some more!

I want the federal budget frozen at 2001 levels for the next 10 years. That alone will bring about a massive reduction of government. Note what significant things would have to be ended?

Increased VA funding to cover benefits for returning veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan for one.

 

[Sinatra]

The list of Obama lies is already at an astounding number!

And these are no small lies but serious backtracks.

Among them, the open and honest debate on legislation to be seen via CSPAN.

Five days of public comment prior to bill signing.

Eliminate income tax for seniors making less than 50k.

And on and on and on and on...


PolitiFact | The Obameter: Obama's Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken

 

[Modbert]

The list of Obama lies is already at an astounding number!

And these are no small lies but serious backtracks.

Among them, the open and honest debate on legislation to be seen via CSPAN.

Five days of public comment prior to bill signing.

Eliminate income tax for seniors making less than 50k.

And on and on and on and on...


PolitiFact | The Obameter: Obama's Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken

Why not tell the full story and not be a hack for two seconds? Would that be too much effort?

PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

 

[Sinatra]

Obama has broken several promises - namely the ones concerning open and honest government. The backroom payoff for votes and support dealings that the Democrat leadership/Obama have initiated is among the things that has the left so outraged at the moment. The healthcare bill has been a practice in near absolute corruptive politics, and Obama is in the thick of it.

How tough is that to understand?

 

[Sinatra]

 

[garyd]

Um Maggie it's more like twenty years longer. When Social security was started Life expectancy was mid fifties it is slowly approaching 80 now. That's why many of us on the right refer to it as the worlds largest ponzi scheme.

 

[ba1614]

The list of Obama lies is already at an astounding number!

And these are no small lies but serious backtracks.

Among them, the open and honest debate on legislation to be seen via CSPAN.

Five days of public comment prior to bill signing.

Eliminate income tax for seniors making less than 50k.

And on and on and on and on...


PolitiFact | The Obameter: Obama's Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken

Ya know, I didn't vote for the guy because I disagree with almost everything he supposedly stands for. But the things you list, Sinatra, are a few things that I was hopeful that he could/would accomplish.
It truly is unfortunate that he turned out to be the lying hypocrite, typical politician, he's turned out to be.

 

[MaggieMae]

The list of Obama lies is already at an astounding number!

And these are no small lies but serious backtracks.

Among them, the open and honest debate on legislation to be seen via CSPAN.

Five days of public comment prior to bill signing.

Eliminate income tax for seniors making less than 50k.

And on and on and on and on...


PolitiFact | The Obameter: Obama's Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken

First of all, C-Span has a contractual obligation to air live all House and Senate floor debates on a regular basis when in session. Second, the full House and full Senate have NOT continuously been involved in the health care debate. And last, C-Span DID air the important respective House and Senate committee conferences. Sorry you missed them.

Regarding your other points, when are you going to acknowledge that all "promises" made in a campaign obviously will not happen for an enormous number of reasons, especially in the first year. How many "promises" are ALWAYS made by presidential candidates and unable to be fulfilled 'immediately'???

Lastly, when are you people going to get fucking real and start to recognize the BIG PICTURE, rather than nit-picking insignificant bullshit that you continue to label as "lies"??? Grow up. You're attempting to equate what one man would LIKE to see happen by his campaign rhetoric to the reality (you don't KNOW THIS?????) of 535 other people all with different points of view.

 

[MaggieMae]

The list of Obama lies is already at an astounding number!

And these are no small lies but serious backtracks.

Among them, the open and honest debate on legislation to be seen via CSPAN.

Five days of public comment prior to bill signing.

Eliminate income tax for seniors making less than 50k.

And on and on and on and on...


PolitiFact | The Obameter: Obama's Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken

Why not tell the full story and not be a hack for two seconds? Would that be too much effort?

PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

Ha, Sinatra et al. only appreciate Politifact's hard work when it promotes their own opinion. Didn't you know that? Same with factcheck.org. Post an investigative report by that organization and you'll immediately see the allegations fly that they are bought and paid for by the left-wing terrorists like Bill Ayers, who just happened to get a grant from Annenberg a long time ago. To hell with what the FACTS presented by factcheck.org actually say. And no, they do NOT consistently report only favorable Dems/Obama. Far from it.

 

[MaggieMae]

Obama has broken several promises - namely the ones concerning open and honest government. The backroom payoff for votes and support dealings that the Democrat leadership/Obama have initiated is among the things that has the left so outraged at the moment. The healthcare bill has been a practice in near absolute corruptive politics, and Obama is in the thick of it.

How tough is that to understand?

Once again, backroom wheeling and dealing is hardly something *new* for ANY administration. Geeze, were you born just yesterday?

 

[MaggieMae]

Um Maggie it's more like twenty years longer. When Social security was started Life expectancy was mid fifties it is slowly approaching 80 now. That's why many of us on the right refer to it as the worlds largest ponzi scheme.

That's true. So now tell us how to stop it without reducing existing benefits or eliminating at some magic cutoff point all those employees who have already made contributions. I'm not suggesting it's a perfect system, now, far from it. But please don't suggest private investment accounts. How many SS recipients would be bankrupt today because of the dramatic fall in stock prices last year? That was always the troubling part of that proposal, and voila!, it actually happened.

 

[Claudette]

Obama has broken several promises - namely the ones concerning open and honest government. The backroom payoff for votes and support dealings that the Democrat leadership/Obama have initiated is among the things that has the left so outraged at the moment. The healthcare bill has been a practice in near absolute corruptive politics, and Obama is in the thick of it.

How tough is that to understand?

Once again, backroom wheeling and dealing is hardly something *new* for ANY administration. Geeze, were you born just yesterday?

Should have been something new for this one though.

AFter all OL'BO was going to clean up DC. No more earmarks, lobbyists and Open and Transparant Govt. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. Kinda sorta didn't turn out that way doncha know!!

 

[Sinatra]

Obama has broken several promises - namely the ones concerning open and honest government. The backroom payoff for votes and support dealings that the Democrat leadership/Obama have initiated is among the things that has the left so outraged at the moment. The healthcare bill has been a practice in near absolute corruptive politics, and Obama is in the thick of it.

How tough is that to understand?

Once again, backroom wheeling and dealing is hardly something *new* for ANY administration. Geeze, were you born just yesterday?

Should have been something new for this one though.

AFter all OL'BO was going to clean up DC. No more earmarks, lobbyists and Open and Transparant Govt. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. Kinda sorta didn't turn out that way doncha know!!

Exactly.

Remarkable how the "Hope n Change" folks are now aggressively DEFENDING the secret dealings of this White House. Attack the insurance companies in public, while making backroom deals at the White House that will secure billions in future insurance profits. Offer federal funds to individual states paid for by residents of all other states. Promise to not raise taxes on the "middle class" while doing just that on many union workers who now face so-called "cadillac insurance" rate hikes.

Grow up Obamabots - the guy has done NOTHING to change the tone and tact of DC politics - in fact, he has muddied those waters even more than his predecessor.

Obama is not just like Bush - he has taken the worst aspects of Bush and doubled down on them.

Obama supporters - you been had...

 

[ba1614]

Once again, backroom wheeling and dealing is hardly something *new* for ANY administration. Geeze, were you born just yesterday?

Should have been something new for this one though.

AFter all OL'BO was going to clean up DC. No more earmarks, lobbyists and Open and Transparant Govt. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. Kinda sorta didn't turn out that way doncha know!!

Exactly.

Remarkable how the "Hope n Change" folks are now aggressively DEFENDING the secret dealings of this White House. Attack the insurance companies in public, while making backroom deals at the White House that will secure billions in future insurance profits. Offer federal funds to individual states paid for by residents of all other states. Promise to not raise taxes on the "middle class" while doing just that on many union workers who now face so-called "cadillac insurance" rate hikes.

Grow up Obamabots - the guy has done NOTHING to change the tone and tact of DC politics - in fact, he has muddied those waters even more than his predecessor.

Obama is not just like Bush - he has taken the worst aspects of Bush and doubled down on them.

Obama supporters - you been had...

It's the way that the obamabots are defending him that cracks me up. "well, well, everybody lies!!" lol

 

[Sinatra]

Should have been something new for this one though.

AFter all OL'BO was going to clean up DC. No more earmarks, lobbyists and Open and Transparant Govt. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. Kinda sorta didn't turn out that way doncha know!!

Exactly.

Remarkable how the "Hope n Change" folks are now aggressively DEFENDING the secret dealings of this White House. Attack the insurance companies in public, while making backroom deals at the White House that will secure billions in future insurance profits. Offer federal funds to individual states paid for by residents of all other states. Promise to not raise taxes on the "middle class" while doing just that on many union workers who now face so-called "cadillac insurance" rate hikes.

Grow up Obamabots - the guy has done NOTHING to change the tone and tact of DC politics - in fact, he has muddied those waters even more than his predecessor.

Obama is not just like Bush - he has taken the worst aspects of Bush and doubled down on them.

Obama supporters - you been had...

It's the way that the obamabots are defending him that cracks me up. "well, well, everybody lies!!" lol

Yup - the same ignorant childlike quality that inspired to vote for this unproven train wreck in the first place is still in place among many that now defend him.

They are not defending Obama so much as defending themselves from having to face the rank stupidity of their vote...

 

[Claudette]

Exactly.

Remarkable how the "Hope n Change" folks are now aggressively DEFENDING the secret dealings of this White House. Attack the insurance companies in public, while making backroom deals at the White House that will secure billions in future insurance profits. Offer federal funds to individual states paid for by residents of all other states. Promise to not raise taxes on the "middle class" while doing just that on many union workers who now face so-called "cadillac insurance" rate hikes.

Grow up Obamabots - the guy has done NOTHING to change the tone and tact of DC politics - in fact, he has muddied those waters even more than his predecessor.

Obama is not just like Bush - he has taken the worst aspects of Bush and doubled down on them.

Obama supporters - you been had...

It's the way that the obamabots are defending him that cracks me up. "well, well, everybody lies!!" lol

Yup - the same ignorant childlike quality that inspired to vote for this unproven train wreck in the first place is still in place among many that now defend him.

They are not defending Obama so much as defending themselves from having to face the rank stupidity of their vote...

You got it. Jeeze. I'm really surprised they haven't dragged Palin in someway, somehow?? Or did I miss that??

Nothing is ever OL'BO's fault. Its Bush who is at fault. Kinda sorta forgot who the Prez is and all those glowing promises on the campaign trail haven't they??? Never trusted this bozo and still don't.

 

[Sinatra]

It's the way that the obamabots are defending him that cracks me up. "well, well, everybody lies!!" lol

Yup - the same ignorant childlike quality that inspired to vote for this unproven train wreck in the first place is still in place among many that now defend him.

They are not defending Obama so much as defending themselves from having to face the rank stupidity of their vote...

You got it. Jeeze. I'm really surprised they haven't dragged Palin in someway, somehow?? Or did I miss that??

Nothing is ever OL'BO's fault. Its Bush who is at fault. Kinda sorta forgot who the Prez is and all those glowing promises on the campaign trail haven't they??? Never trusted this bozo and still don't.

Fact is, Democrats have controlled the purse strings and regulatory oversight for three years now - and have had total control for nearly a year.

They have much blame for what happened to the economy - as do the Republicans.

At present though, for better or worse - they own it all. The blame game is getting old...

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

No one would be listening to Obama after he loses. The New Prez will hold press conferences daily like Obama and keep pounding home that Obama caused the mess with his stupid policies..."we inherited this mess from Obama...nothing we could do....the US is really broke and we can't pay our entitlements" Thank the democrats for this mess.

Is the American public that stupid?

yes

Obama supporters are, the American people , Nah Not so much

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Lets spends some more!

I want the federal budget frozen at 2001 levels for the next 10 years. That alone will bring about a massive reduction of government. Note what significant things would have to be ended?

Well it isnt controlling the borders, the war on terror is over,
School lunches?