Very Curious ? Why have I yet to see a successful Black neighborhood ?

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    I have many Black Friends, but if they live in an all Black neighborhood, there's high crime and steel bars on every residential & commercial building ? What is the problem ???? Where are they ???
     
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    Maybe it's just where you live. I'm black and I use to live in an all black neighborhood and we never had steel bars on our windows and the crime wasn't high. kids were able to go outside without being worried about getting shot. the only bad thing that ever happen to us was some crackhead stole a (yes 1) porch chair.
     
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    I suspect you'll find that it's a poverty issue...not a race issue.
     
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    I work with a service company and go all over the county. There was a Black section of town (demarkated by the Sewerplant) and this area has predominantly stayed black well after an end to legal segregation. The Blacks have expanded outward as their population grows (obviously) but are very inclined to stay in a Black majority neighborhood.

    Normally the process of White to Black demographics begins with houses being rented to Black families. From that point White Flight seems to takeover. Normally these neighborhoods already had drug and crime problems to begin with.

    In the older part of the Black section of town neighborhoods are very economically mixed with a few blocks of decent houses surrounded by increasingly decript and crime ridden houses. I would say the wealthier areas tend to have families instead of single parents and tend to be older. Typically, these nicer areas are below $100,000.00 a year. Nothing fabulous.

    I have read of one WEALTHY Black neighborhood outside of Atlanta and I think I read that Rev. Wright lives in such a place.
     
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    To Jillian;

    I suspect the general problem revolves about Family in low population areas like mine. In the big cities everyone goes crazy so I withold judgement.

    A consistant father figure, drug abstinence, and a family culture of dedication are the crucial factors in children's upbringing. I would say that a moral upbringing with a heavy emphasis on dedication would overcome starting economic conditions and natural intelligence.

    A persistant average person would be far more valuable than a flakey genius.
     
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    That's exactly it.
     
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    you know until I came to this board I'd have never believed that ignorance and bigotry was still such a large issue in this country. But alas in the month I've been here I've encountered some of the most ignorant, bigoted and just plain rude, nasty and hateful people I've had the displeaure of coming into contact. Thank God it's virtual contact and not personal real life contact. Blessedly, I've also encounterd some of the most intelligent, honest, funny, and just downright lovely people as well so they make up for those I wish I hadn't encountered.

    I love in Florida and this state has a large black population and trust me when I say their neighborhoods are as successful as any other neighborhood around.

    I live in a predominately white area and in the four years that I've lived here I've had three car radios stolen and that actual car stolen right out of my drive way...after moving from a predominately black neighbrohood no less. We had a rash of break-ins a few months ago where kids were breaking into homes when the people went to work and I'm pretty sure there is a drug dealer who lives a few doors down just based on the traffic in front of his home and the number of times I've seen the police there. On the surface this a very nice neighborhood but like any neighborhood, scratch off that surface and you'd be surprised what you'd find.

    I do agree with Jillian, poverty plays a big role as does perception. Just because you don't see the crime in the white neighborhoods doesn't mean it's not happening... whites seem to commit their crimes behind the privacy of their front door...beating their wives and children, molesting the neighborhood children, surfing the internet for child porn etc.

    I will say this, if you're so curious about why black neighborhoods are the way they are why don't you go do some volunteer work in a low income area and get to know the people living in those neighborhoods. I think you'll find that 90% are hard working, law abiding citizens and you're stereotyping an entire group of people based on what you see on the news.
     
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    Because when black people get money they move to white neighborhoods. DUH
     
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    Actually, child abuse and domestic violence are among the only crimes that transcend socio-economic boundaries.
     
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    really? rape, murder, robbery, drug dealing? those don't transcend socio-economic boundaries too? :confused:

    How about I put it a different way... whites can afford better defense attorney's so perhaps their crimes aren't as noticeable since they don't end up in jail as often.... :D
     

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