Venezuela's Green, Renewable, Power, Huge, failure

[elektra]

Did we here it here first? Venezuela's huge investment in Green Energy? There have been a lot of threads about the huge advances in power output of renewable resources, so I am thinking maybe Venezuela's advances have been missed, and in my second post, the failure.

Venezuela to Become a Leader in Renewable Energy in South America - Solar Energy

Posted on Friday March 18, 2011 by Danny Vo in Uncategorized
Venezuela to Become a Leader in Renewable Energy in South America

http://www.elp.com/articles/2014/08/venezuela-wind-energy-project-nears-final-stage.html

Venezuela wind energy project nears final stage
08/25/2014

Venezuela's Paraguaná wind power project received components for its last 22 wind turbines, according to a release from state oil firm PDVSA.

Located near the Paraguaná refinery complex in Falcón state, the wind power project is expected to deliver 100 MW of capacity to power the neighboring oil refinery.

Venezuela's Large Oil and Gas Reserves and How Venezuela is Reducing Fossil Fuel Consumption with Renewable Energy

Generating Hydroelectric Power
In the mid-1960s the Guri hydroelectric dam was built in the Caronii River in Venezuela, and as of 2002 is the only the second largest hydroelectric generator on earth. The total amount of power, who power is estimated at 10,000 MW, is supposed to have another 8,000 added to it by the Venezuelan government. This is a step in the right direction, and the plan is to continue upgrading this renewable power plant for the next thirty years. More recently the Caruachi dam was installed, but has a much smaller energy capacity than its predecessor.

 

[elektra]

And, the result of going the wrong direction with ones energy policy is Nationwide Electricity Blackouts.

Venezuela Green Energy Emergency Shutdown

Venezuela Green Energy Emergency Shutdown
JoNova – Venezuela, a major oil exporter, has ordered an emergency week long industrial shutdown, to try to prevent electricity demands from exceeding their available hydroelectric reserves.
Venezuela to Shut Down for a Week to Cope With Electricity Crisis

Is this a taste of things to come, if greens succeed in convincing the world to embrace renewables on a large scale? Industry forced to stop production, workers laid off, depending on which way the wind blows, or whether it rained last winter?

One can only imagine the impact such arbitrary green industrial shutdowns must be having, on any remaining Venezuelan businesses. Unplanned plant shutdowns can easily lead to financial ruin – job layoffs, plant closures, bankruptcy and destitution.

 

[Andylusion]

They have been having problems for almost a decade now. Imagine that. All renewable power, and nearly nation wide black outs.

This is yet another reason I have such are hard time not just assuming every left-winger is an idiot. We can see this happening... and yet they still push for it. They had black outs in 2011, 2013, 2014 and routinely in 2015, the last one was a week long power outage, and this for a country with the worlds largest oil reserve.

If they just pumped the oil, and ran generators, they could have 24/7 power for 1,000 years. But instead the left-wing socialism for the 21st century, has them sitting in the dark for an entire week?

How can any idiot vote for Bernie Sanders? I don't get it.

 

[Asclepias]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

 

[elektra]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

You can't make it rain nor can you make the wind blow nor can you make the sun shine through the clouds. In a modern economy the loss is crippling, especially if you must be prepared for War.

Losers keep pursuing a failed technology that has been exceeded by modern technology. The idea to simply make them bigger is hardly improving the process.

 

[Asclepias]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

You can't make it rain nor can you make the wind blow nor can you make the sun shine through the clouds. In a modern economy the loss is crippling, especially if you must be prepared for War.

Losers keep pursuing a failed technology that has been exceeded by modern technology. The idea to simply make them bigger is hardly improving the process.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Did we here it here first? Venezuela's huge investment in Green Energy? There have been a lot of threads about the huge advances in power output of renewable resources, so I am thinking maybe Venezuela's advances have been missed, and in my second post, the failure.

Venezuela to Become a Leader in Renewable Energy in South America - Solar Energy

Posted on Friday March 18, 2011 by Danny Vo in Uncategorized
Venezuela to Become a Leader in Renewable Energy in South America

http://www.elp.com/articles/2014/08/venezuela-wind-energy-project-nears-final-stage.html

Venezuela wind energy project nears final stage
08/25/2014

Venezuela's Paraguaná wind power project received components for its last 22 wind turbines, according to a release from state oil firm PDVSA.

Located near the Paraguaná refinery complex in Falcón state, the wind power project is expected to deliver 100 MW of capacity to power the neighboring oil refinery.

Venezuela's Large Oil and Gas Reserves and How Venezuela is Reducing Fossil Fuel Consumption with Renewable Energy

Generating Hydroelectric Power
In the mid-1960s the Guri hydroelectric dam was built in the Caronii River in Venezuela, and as of 2002 is the only the second largest hydroelectric generator on earth. The total amount of power, who power is estimated at 10,000 MW, is supposed to have another 8,000 added to it by the Venezuelan government. This is a step in the right direction, and the plan is to continue upgrading this renewable power plant for the next thirty years. More recently the Caruachi dam was installed, but has a much smaller energy capacity than its predecessor.

Venezuela can't even produce enough diapers or toilet paper. Terrible example elektra.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

 

[TheOldSchool]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

The sun's been around for 4+ billion years and it provides us more energy in one day that the human race has created in all of its history. Just sayin.

 

[Asclepias]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

They must work if they have been around that long. Just sayin...

 

[elektra]

Did we here it here first? Venezuela's huge investment in Green Energy? There have been a lot of threads about the huge advances in power output of renewable resources, so I am thinking maybe Venezuela's advances have been missed, and in my second post, the failure.

Venezuela to Become a Leader in Renewable Energy in South America - Solar Energy

Posted on Friday March 18, 2011 by Danny Vo in Uncategorized
Venezuela to Become a Leader in Renewable Energy in South America

http://www.elp.com/articles/2014/08/venezuela-wind-energy-project-nears-final-stage.html

Venezuela wind energy project nears final stage
08/25/2014

Venezuela's Paraguaná wind power project received components for its last 22 wind turbines, according to a release from state oil firm PDVSA.

Located near the Paraguaná refinery complex in Falcón state, the wind power project is expected to deliver 100 MW of capacity to power the neighboring oil refinery.

Venezuela's Large Oil and Gas Reserves and How Venezuela is Reducing Fossil Fuel Consumption with Renewable Energy

Generating Hydroelectric Power
In the mid-1960s the Guri hydroelectric dam was built in the Caronii River in Venezuela, and as of 2002 is the only the second largest hydroelectric generator on earth. The total amount of power, who power is estimated at 10,000 MW, is supposed to have another 8,000 added to it by the Venezuelan government. This is a step in the right direction, and the plan is to continue upgrading this renewable power plant for the next thirty years. More recently the Caruachi dam was installed, but has a much smaller energy capacity than its predecessor.

Venezuela can't even produce enough diapers or toilet paper. Terrible example elektra.

Yet it is an example of installing to much Renewable energy. Brazil is suffering the same problem.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, karma is served, Peabody headed for chapter 11, and history. And the renewables will replace the coal fired cancers on our nation with clean energy.

 

[elektra]

Well, karma is served, Peabody headed for chapter 11, and history. And the renewables will replace the coal fired cancers on our nation with clean energy.

If they will replace coal, as you say, how come they have not by now, we have been building and installing renewables for over 30 years yet they have not replaced a single coal plant, why is that?

 

[Old Rocks]

Since 2009, a combination of factors converged to produce a wave of coal plant retirement announcements by plant operators. These factors included:

• The continued aging of the coal fleet, in which the median generating station was built in January 1966. (See Table 1 below) Since their efficiency is lower than newer plants, older plants are typically run less often and have poorer economics.[1]
• New and proposed EPA regulations, including the proposed Clean Air Transport Rule, the proposed Coal Combustion Residuals rule, the proposed Tailoring Rule (covering greenhouse gas emissions), the Ozone NAAQS (National Ambient Air Quality Standards), the forthcoming National Emission Standard for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAPs), and cooling water regulations under section 316(b) of the Clean Water Act. [2][3][4]
• Low prices of power from natural gas plants.

Coal plant retirements have been the subject of a number of multiple studies:

Coal plant retirements - SourceWatch

And as the coal fired generators close down, we add more and more wind and solar, and are starting to add geothermal.

 

[elektra]

Since 2009, a combination of factors converged to produce a wave of coal plant retirement announcements by plant operators. These factors included:

• The continued aging of the coal fleet, in which the median generating station was built in January 1966. (See Table 1 below) Since their efficiency is lower than newer plants, older plants are typically run less often and have poorer economics.[1]
• New and proposed EPA regulations, including the proposed Clean Air Transport Rule, the proposed Coal Combustion Residuals rule, the proposed Tailoring Rule (covering greenhouse gas emissions), the Ozone NAAQS (National Ambient Air Quality Standards), the forthcoming National Emission Standard for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAPs), and cooling water regulations under section 316(b) of the Clean Water Act. [2][3][4]
• Low prices of power from natural gas plants.

Coal plant retirements have been the subject of a number of multiple studies:

Coal plant retirements - SourceWatch

And as the coal fired generators close down, we add more and more wind and solar, and are starting to add geothermal.

So? Obama forces perfectly fine Coal Plants to close, that is political, they are replaced with Natural Gas or expanding the output of existing Coal Plants.

So the question is still valid, how come we are building huge, hydrocarbon power plants, if Wind or Solar works?

 

[Andylusion]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

The sun's been around for 4+ billion years and it provides us more energy in one day that the human race has created in all of its history. Just sayin.

That's very interesting. That's amazing. That's crazy cool! And it's totally irrelevant to the topic. The solar system puts out more energy in one second, than our sun does for it's entire life time. That amazingly cool and irrelevant too.

Nothing of what you, or I have now said, changes the fact that countries built on solar power, end up in the dark, or with energy prices so high, it's driving out business, and harming the economy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

The sun's been around for 4+ billion years and it provides us more energy in one day that the human race has created in all of its history. Just sayin.

That's very interesting. That's amazing. That's crazy cool! And it's totally irrelevant to the topic. The solar system puts out more energy in one second, than our sun does for it's entire life time. That amazingly cool and irrelevant too.

Nothing of what you, or I have now said, changes the fact that countries built on solar power, end up in the dark, or with energy prices so high, it's driving out business, and harming the economy.

Just seen dumb schools post..... Can't you even get the narrative of what I was replying to? Wind mills are ancient technology along with electric cars, hell in the late 1800s electric cars were way more popular then gasoline cars.

 

[elektra]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

They must work if they have been around that long. Just sayin...

Do you think Wind Mills powered the Industrial age? Just sayin............

 

[Andylusion]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

The sun's been around for 4+ billion years and it provides us more energy in one day that the human race has created in all of its history. Just sayin.

That's very interesting. That's amazing. That's crazy cool! And it's totally irrelevant to the topic. The solar system puts out more energy in one second, than our sun does for it's entire life time. That amazingly cool and irrelevant too.

Nothing of what you, or I have now said, changes the fact that countries built on solar power, end up in the dark, or with energy prices so high, it's driving out business, and harming the economy.

Just seen dumb schools post..... Can't you even get the narrative of what I was replying to? Wind mills are ancient technology along with electric cars, hell in the late 1800s electric cars were way more popular then gasoline cars.

All true. So what is your point?

 

[Wyatt earp]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Wind mills have been around for what? Over a 1,000 years.... Just saying.

They must work if they have been around that long. Just sayin...

Do you think Wind Mills powered the Industrial age? Just sayin............

Yea what's next putting sails on the new titanic?