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I didn't say that, you idiot. As much as it goes against your nature, try not to make up stupid lies.
I said that human life =/= personhood.
It matters not that a fetus is a potential person, and that abortion inhibits that potential, unless you are willing to object to contraception and celibacy on the same grounds. If you will retort that abortion actively ends a human life, while celibacy and contraception merely prevent its existence, you are asserting that the fetus already has some inherent value by virtue of merely existing. I have pointed out that numerous nonhuman animals possess a greater level of awareness and a greater capacity to feel pain than that human fetus does, and thus are of greater moral status.
You likely disagree on the grounds that you consider all forms of human life to be inherently superior to all forms of nonhuman animal life. As a utilitarian, I reject this premise, and I would ask you to support it.
oh it DOES matter that a genetically distinct fetus is a potential HUMAN BEING. Contraception and celibacy do not produce a fertilized zygote. Didn't I ask you if you were versed enough in the subject of sexual reproduction to have this conversation? Indeed, the zygote DOES have inherent value by merely exhisting. This is how we feel about ALL our children.. you know, BABY HUMANS..
Again, greater levels of awareness does not make a fetal pig more valuable than a fetal human being. Thats just retarded as hell. AGAIN, a shoal that can run three minutes after dropping out of a horse vagina doesn't make it more valuable than a fucking 1 year old human child. If this is the sum total of your argument then you have failed.
i don't care what ethical standard you hide behind. Utilitarianism is not so rigid that the definition of utility is stuck to mean "which can bat an eye in the womb first".