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Fuck this guy. It's old news. Time to move on and forget all about him.
Right Republicans?
Right Republicans?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
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Dumb.
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
The cause of death on their death certificates, duh.Most of them, yes. COVID killed them not their underlying condition.If they didn't catch a deadly disease killing thousands of Americans per day, they would be alive RIGHT NOW.Wrong. Both men had significant health problems.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.www.cnbc.com
January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
This happens all the time. People with weakened immune systems due to ongoing disease become much more likely to die, when ALSO exposed to a virus. It happens every year with the flu.
Some of them yes, some of them no.
What do you base that on?
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
There is no motivation. Flat rate reimbursement for treatment is hardly motivation. Just like the accusations of "cheating" in the election, you all make these ridiculous claims with ZERO evidence to support them.Yes, treating the patient costs money and Medicare is reimbursing for those costs.No they aren't. That LIE was debunked ages ago.You are terribly uninformed. Hospitals are receiving government funds for every Covid death. If you are unaware of this, you must admit you are uninformed. Get informed before posting.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
In addition, do you not think big pharma is making out HUGE from this pandemic? They have a vested interest in promoting Covid deaths, and they control the political class and the MSM with they enormous wealth.
Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org
Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...www.factcheck.org
Fucking COVID truthers are stupid and dangerous.
Your source does not say that there is not additional payment for covid cases.
"A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but "
"Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients."
Wow. Based on the distinction between "listing" and "treating" they are judging that accusation as NOT TRUE?
Hilarious.
The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses.Medicare — the federal health insurance program for Americans 65 and older, a central at-risk population when it comes to COVID-19 — pays hospitals in part using fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups.The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has classified COVID-19 cases with existing groups for respiratory infections and inflammations. A CMS spokesperson told us exact payments vary, depending on a patient’s principal diagnosis and severity, as well as treatments and procedures. There are also geographic variations.An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”
Your position was that there was no motive to inflate convid cases, and then you denied that more money was given for covid cases, and now that you have been forced to admit that there is more money,
now you are arguing that the money is justified.
My point that there is money as a motive to inflate the numbers has been proven, and even admitted by you.
The cause of death on their death certificates, duh.Most of them, yes. COVID killed them not their underlying condition.If they didn't catch a deadly disease killing thousands of Americans per day, they would be alive RIGHT NOW.Wrong. Both men had significant health problems.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
This happens all the time. People with weakened immune systems due to ongoing disease become much more likely to die, when ALSO exposed to a virus. It happens every year with the flu.
Some of them yes, some of them no.
What do you base that on?
Got it. So, you want to pretend that everyone that dies with covid, is a death from covid.
So, you are not serious about the truth or the covid polices.
There is no motivation. Flat rate reimbursement for treatment is hardly motivation. Just like the accusations of "cheating" in the election, you all make these ridiculous claims with ZERO evidence to support them.Yes, treating the patient costs money and Medicare is reimbursing for those costs.No they aren't. That LIE was debunked ages ago.You are terribly uninformed. Hospitals are receiving government funds for every Covid death. If you are unaware of this, you must admit you are uninformed. Get informed before posting.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
In addition, do you not think big pharma is making out HUGE from this pandemic? They have a vested interest in promoting Covid deaths, and they control the political class and the MSM with they enormous wealth.
Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org
Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
Fucking COVID truthers are stupid and dangerous.
Your source does not say that there is not additional payment for covid cases.
"A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but "
"Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients."
Wow. Based on the distinction between "listing" and "treating" they are judging that accusation as NOT TRUE?
Hilarious.
The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses.Medicare — the federal health insurance program for Americans 65 and older, a central at-risk population when it comes to COVID-19 — pays hospitals in part using fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups.The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has classified COVID-19 cases with existing groups for respiratory infections and inflammations. A CMS spokesperson told us exact payments vary, depending on a patient’s principal diagnosis and severity, as well as treatments and procedures. There are also geographic variations.An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”
Your position was that there was no motive to inflate convid cases, and then you denied that more money was given for covid cases, and now that you have been forced to admit that there is more money,
now you are arguing that the money is justified.
My point that there is money as a motive to inflate the numbers has been proven, and even admitted by you.
Your link to the fact checker, made the claim that the claim of the hospitals getting more money for covid cases was NOT true, based on semantics.
Your fact checker and you, not long ago, were denying that the increased payments existed.
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
I'm not pretending. I actually have data to support my contention. You on the other hand have less than jack shit. Oh, right....you claim you "saw" something but can't find the data to support what you "saw".The cause of death on their death certificates, duh.Most of them, yes. COVID killed them not their underlying condition.If they didn't catch a deadly disease killing thousands of Americans per day, they would be alive RIGHT NOW.Wrong. Both men had significant health problems.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
This happens all the time. People with weakened immune systems due to ongoing disease become much more likely to die, when ALSO exposed to a virus. It happens every year with the flu.
Some of them yes, some of them no.
What do you base that on?
Got it. So, you want to pretend that everyone that dies with covid, is a death from covid.
So, you are not serious about the truth or the covid polices.
COVID truthers are as bad as 9/11 truthers.
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
And you still have ZERO proof that deaths are being reported just to get more money. Even the douche bag that originally made the claim walked it back. You Trumpsters have no shame.There is no motivation. Flat rate reimbursement for treatment is hardly motivation. Just like the accusations of "cheating" in the election, you all make these ridiculous claims with ZERO evidence to support them.Yes, treating the patient costs money and Medicare is reimbursing for those costs.No they aren't. That LIE was debunked ages ago.You are terribly uninformed. Hospitals are receiving government funds for every Covid death. If you are unaware of this, you must admit you are uninformed. Get informed before posting.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
In addition, do you not think big pharma is making out HUGE from this pandemic? They have a vested interest in promoting Covid deaths, and they control the political class and the MSM with they enormous wealth.
Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org
Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
Fucking COVID truthers are stupid and dangerous.
Your source does not say that there is not additional payment for covid cases.
"A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but "
"Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients."
Wow. Based on the distinction between "listing" and "treating" they are judging that accusation as NOT TRUE?
Hilarious.
The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses.Medicare — the federal health insurance program for Americans 65 and older, a central at-risk population when it comes to COVID-19 — pays hospitals in part using fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups.The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has classified COVID-19 cases with existing groups for respiratory infections and inflammations. A CMS spokesperson told us exact payments vary, depending on a patient’s principal diagnosis and severity, as well as treatments and procedures. There are also geographic variations.An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”
Your position was that there was no motive to inflate convid cases, and then you denied that more money was given for covid cases, and now that you have been forced to admit that there is more money,
now you are arguing that the money is justified.
My point that there is money as a motive to inflate the numbers has been proven, and even admitted by you.
Your link to the fact checker, made the claim that the claim of the hospitals getting more money for covid cases was NOT true, based on semantics.
Your fact checker and you, not long ago, were denying that the increased payments existed.
I'm not pretending. I actually have data to support my contention. You on the other hand have less than jack shit. Oh, right....you claim you "saw" something but can't find the data to support what you "saw".The cause of death on their death certificates, duh.Most of them, yes. COVID killed them not their underlying condition.If they didn't catch a deadly disease killing thousands of Americans per day, they would be alive RIGHT NOW.Wrong. Both men had significant health problems.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
This happens all the time. People with weakened immune systems due to ongoing disease become much more likely to die, when ALSO exposed to a virus. It happens every year with the flu.
Some of them yes, some of them no.
What do you base that on?
Got it. So, you want to pretend that everyone that dies with covid, is a death from covid.
So, you are not serious about the truth or the covid polices.
Are you the one that posted a fact checker to validate your claims, and when I looked at it, it actually validated my third claim, ie that the hospitals get more money for covid patients?
And was just playing a silly word game to justify calling the accusation, "mostly not true"?
And you still have ZERO proof that deaths are being reported just to get more money. Even the douche bag that originally made the claim walked it back. You Trumpsters have no shame.There is no motivation. Flat rate reimbursement for treatment is hardly motivation. Just like the accusations of "cheating" in the election, you all make these ridiculous claims with ZERO evidence to support them.Yes, treating the patient costs money and Medicare is reimbursing for those costs.No they aren't. That LIE was debunked ages ago.You are terribly uninformed. Hospitals are receiving government funds for every Covid death. If you are unaware of this, you must admit you are uninformed. Get informed before posting.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
In addition, do you not think big pharma is making out HUGE from this pandemic? They have a vested interest in promoting Covid deaths, and they control the political class and the MSM with they enormous wealth.
Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org
Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
Fucking COVID truthers are stupid and dangerous.
Your source does not say that there is not additional payment for covid cases.
"A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but "
"Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients."
Wow. Based on the distinction between "listing" and "treating" they are judging that accusation as NOT TRUE?
Hilarious.
The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses.Medicare — the federal health insurance program for Americans 65 and older, a central at-risk population when it comes to COVID-19 — pays hospitals in part using fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups.The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has classified COVID-19 cases with existing groups for respiratory infections and inflammations. A CMS spokesperson told us exact payments vary, depending on a patient’s principal diagnosis and severity, as well as treatments and procedures. There are also geographic variations.An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”
Your position was that there was no motive to inflate convid cases, and then you denied that more money was given for covid cases, and now that you have been forced to admit that there is more money,
now you are arguing that the money is justified.
My point that there is money as a motive to inflate the numbers has been proven, and even admitted by you.
Your link to the fact checker, made the claim that the claim of the hospitals getting more money for covid cases was NOT true, based on semantics.
Your fact checker and you, not long ago, were denying that the increased payments existed.
Data collected that includes, in reverse order this time, a financial incentive for inflating the numbers, with counted as from, and guesses,
is garbage data.
Yes, I refuse to waste my time digging though the shit to find a link for you, that you will ignore, the way you are ignoring that the money point has been validated.
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He's the first sitting member of Congress to die from Covid-19.
Cue the retarded "Duhhhhh, he died from lung cancer, derp derp, derp" comments. Who will be the first?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
Rep. Ron Wright of Texas, who was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2018, has died at the age of 67 after contracting COVID-19, a spokesperson announced on Monday. Wright is the first sitting member of Congress to die after testing positive for the virus. People shared messages of condolences following the news of his death.
COVID-19 live updates: 'Extremely unlikely' virus came from Chinese lab, WHO says
A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 106 million people worldwide and killed over 2.3 million of them.abcnews.go.com
Where was your consternation when Cuomo sent tens of thousands to die? Your tears are dry and your words are hollow.
Who has tears? Who has consternation? This clown held public rallies and conducted public business without wearing a mask. So his constituents didn't, either.
So he did. Millions wore masks in California and still contracted it. You make no point.
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Dummy, that's a fantasy. Amish get (and die) from Covid just as anyone else.
COVID-19 Outbreak in an Amish Community — Ohio, May 2020
This report describes mitigation efforts following a COVID-19 outbreak in an Amish community.
www.cdc.gov
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
And you still have ZERO proof that deaths are being reported just to get more money. Even the douche bag that originally made the claim walked it back. You Trumpsters have no shame.There is no motivation. Flat rate reimbursement for treatment is hardly motivation. Just like the accusations of "cheating" in the election, you all make these ridiculous claims with ZERO evidence to support them.Yes, treating the patient costs money and Medicare is reimbursing for those costs.No they aren't. That LIE was debunked ages ago.You are terribly uninformed. Hospitals are receiving government funds for every Covid death. If you are unaware of this, you must admit you are uninformed. Get informed before posting.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
In addition, do you not think big pharma is making out HUGE from this pandemic? They have a vested interest in promoting Covid deaths, and they control the political class and the MSM with they enormous wealth.
Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org
Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
Fucking COVID truthers are stupid and dangerous.
Your source does not say that there is not additional payment for covid cases.
"A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but "
"Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients."
Wow. Based on the distinction between "listing" and "treating" they are judging that accusation as NOT TRUE?
Hilarious.
The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses.Medicare — the federal health insurance program for Americans 65 and older, a central at-risk population when it comes to COVID-19 — pays hospitals in part using fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups.The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has classified COVID-19 cases with existing groups for respiratory infections and inflammations. A CMS spokesperson told us exact payments vary, depending on a patient’s principal diagnosis and severity, as well as treatments and procedures. There are also geographic variations.An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”
Your position was that there was no motive to inflate convid cases, and then you denied that more money was given for covid cases, and now that you have been forced to admit that there is more money,
now you are arguing that the money is justified.
My point that there is money as a motive to inflate the numbers has been proven, and even admitted by you.
Your link to the fact checker, made the claim that the claim of the hospitals getting more money for covid cases was NOT true, based on semantics.
Your fact checker and you, not long ago, were denying that the increased payments existed.
Data collected that includes, in reverse order this time, a financial incentive for inflating the numbers, with counted as from, and guesses,
is garbage data.
Yes, I refuse to waste my time digging though the shit to find a link for you, that you will ignore, the way you are ignoring that the money point has been validated.
Being reimbursed for services rendered is not "financial incentive", it is reimbursement for treatment, that's it. Nobody is making money off COVID deaths. This is just more of your COVID truther bullshit with no evidence to support your claim.
Lol. Big Pharma is making out huge.And you still have ZERO proof that deaths are being reported just to get more money. Even the douche bag that originally made the claim walked it back. You Trumpsters have no shame.There is no motivation. Flat rate reimbursement for treatment is hardly motivation. Just like the accusations of "cheating" in the election, you all make these ridiculous claims with ZERO evidence to support them.Yes, treating the patient costs money and Medicare is reimbursing for those costs.No they aren't. That LIE was debunked ages ago.You are terribly uninformed. Hospitals are receiving government funds for every Covid death. If you are unaware of this, you must admit you are uninformed. Get informed before posting.No. Wrong. If you have comorbidities, and cancer is a very big comorbidity, your death is almost certainly a combination of causes. Not just Covid. The fact that the establishment is claiming all these deaths are solely from Covid, should make you suspicious.The people that have COVID listed on their death certificates died of COVID...like the congressman from Texas. Yes, he had cancer but COVID, not cancer, killed him. If you have cancer and get decapitated in an auto accident, they don’t say you died from cancer. Fucking sick ass COVID truthers...Positive test rates have nothing to do with death rates. People are dying of COVID whether they test positive or not. Nobody is inflating death totals. You COVID truthers are twisted.Yeah, I think I would probably still be questioning your intelligence if we met in person. For sure on the internet you’re making shit up.I don’t know or care. I do know you’re lying about your intelligence level.The likelihood of someone lying about their intelligence level on an anonymous board ...100%.Please, the only thing you spent a year slapping around is your dick, COVID truther.You fucking COVID truthers are nuts and I don’t understand your motivation.No shit. If it was almost 80,000 just for January and we are losing 3,000-4,000 a day...can you do the math aptly named one?You get that we're well into February Seabitch, and the Synthia is a liar.No, it’s true shit
U.S. reports record number of Covid deaths in January as new strains threaten progress
President Joe Biden is working to ramp up the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines, blaming the initially slow pace on the Trump administration.January's death toll has already surpassed the previous record number of fatalities set in December, when over 77,400 people in the U.S. died of Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The pandemic has taken more than 79,200 lives so far this month, according to the data.
those numbers are not real
If you don't have pneumonia you cannot die of covid
and just because you tested positive for covid with pneumonia doesn't mean the covid caused the pneumonia. How likely that is varies on the cycles used on the PCR test.
For most of history a doctor would have said cold/pneumonia or viral pneumonia because it's more hassle than it's worth finding out exactly what virus you've got.
Covid truther? lol. Maybe you should remember your education. I can read a data set as well as standardized tests can measure.
PCR tests are not what you think they are, you should know this by now. Massive false positive rate. Well over 50% at 35 cycles which was very common in the US. Although how common is unclear because labs don't report this data
It's been a year pleb
Maybe stop with teh appeals to authority use your head. I've spend the year slapping around phds, you pleb have no idea what you're talking about. Even my ivy league kin. You are clearly not ivy league material.
Uh huh says the pleb
i'm half south asian. I don't think i need to say anymore about my STEM credentials
statistically the likelyhood of you being on my level academically is almost non existant.
otehr than math people don't come smarter than me
remember your place whitey. Clearly not on top fo the heap
It’s beyond obvious that you are lying.
You think im lying about my ethnicity?
not gonna meet many indians in the states who feel the need to do that
ok sure pleb
get out more you fucking shut in. maybe the cognitive dissonance will set in
i assure you if we spoke in person you would not be questioning me you little autist.
You have no idea where to begin trying to defend your bullshit. Next time some one treats like you like shit don't wonder why. You're a vapid little faggot
(Let me clue you in on a little secret, a big tell is the quantity of ad hominems.)
I don't know. He discussed details of the tests that you did not address.
What percentage of the death totals, are primarily from covid with co-morbidities as contributing factors, and what percentage are primarily from the co-morbidities with convid as a contributing factor?
Why? Where is the motivation? What would doctors have to gain by inflating COVID deaths? The congressman from Texas was not dying...until he got COVID. Herman Cain was not dying until he got COVID. COVID killed them, not their cancer.
In addition, do you not think big pharma is making out HUGE from this pandemic? They have a vested interest in promoting Covid deaths, and they control the political class and the MSM with they enormous wealth.
Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org
Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
Fucking COVID truthers are stupid and dangerous.
Your source does not say that there is not additional payment for covid cases.
"A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but "
"Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients."
Wow. Based on the distinction between "listing" and "treating" they are judging that accusation as NOT TRUE?
Hilarious.
The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses.Medicare — the federal health insurance program for Americans 65 and older, a central at-risk population when it comes to COVID-19 — pays hospitals in part using fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups.The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has classified COVID-19 cases with existing groups for respiratory infections and inflammations. A CMS spokesperson told us exact payments vary, depending on a patient’s principal diagnosis and severity, as well as treatments and procedures. There are also geographic variations.An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”
Your position was that there was no motive to inflate convid cases, and then you denied that more money was given for covid cases, and now that you have been forced to admit that there is more money,
now you are arguing that the money is justified.
My point that there is money as a motive to inflate the numbers has been proven, and even admitted by you.
Your link to the fact checker, made the claim that the claim of the hospitals getting more money for covid cases was NOT true, based on semantics.
Your fact checker and you, not long ago, were denying that the increased payments existed.
Data collected that includes, in reverse order this time, a financial incentive for inflating the numbers, with counted as from, and guesses,
is garbage data.
Yes, I refuse to waste my time digging though the shit to find a link for you, that you will ignore, the way you are ignoring that the money point has been validated.
Being reimbursed for services rendered is not "financial incentive", it is reimbursement for treatment, that's it. Nobody is making money off COVID deaths. This is just more of your COVID truther bullshit with no evidence to support your claim.
He's the first sitting member of Congress to die from Covid-19.
Cue the retarded "Duhhhhh, he died from lung cancer, derp derp, derp" comments. Who will be the first?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
Rep. Ron Wright of Texas, who was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2018, has died at the age of 67 after contracting COVID-19, a spokesperson announced on Monday. Wright is the first sitting member of Congress to die after testing positive for the virus. People shared messages of condolences following the news of his death.
COVID-19 live updates: 'Extremely unlikely' virus came from Chinese lab, WHO says
A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 106 million people worldwide and killed over 2.3 million of them.
Where was your consternation when Cuomo sent tens of thousands to die? Your tears are dry and your words are hollow.
Who has tears? Who has consternation? This clown held public rallies and conducted public business without wearing a mask. So his constituents didn't, either.
So he did. Millions wore masks in California and still contracted it. You make no point.
View attachment 454696
Dummy, that's a fantasy. Amish get (and die) from Covid just as anyone else.
COVID-19 Outbreak in an Amish Community — Ohio, May 2020
This report describes mitigation efforts following a COVID-19 outbreak in an Amish community.
"...die) from Covid just as anyone else."
Pretty 'liberal' use of the term 'die.'
And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:
"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.
Yet it served as the Democrat's reason to destroy the economy.
odanny
Diamond Member
He's the first sitting member of Congress to die from Covid-19.
Cue the retarded "Duhhhhh, he died from lung cancer, derp derp, derp" comments. Who will be the first?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
Rep. Ron Wright of Texas, who was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2018, has died at the age of 67 after contracting COVID-19, a spokesperson announced on Monday. Wright is the first sitting member of Congress to die after testing positive for the virus. People shared messages of condolences following the news of his death.
COVID-19 live updates: 'Extremely unlikely' virus came from Chinese lab, WHO says
A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 106 million people worldwide and killed over 2.3 million of them.
Where was your consternation when Cuomo sent tens of thousands to die? Your tears are dry and your words are hollow.
Who has tears? Who has consternation? This clown held public rallies and conducted public business without wearing a mask. So his constituents didn't, either.
So he did. Millions wore masks in California and still contracted it. You make no point.
View attachment 454696
Dummy, that's a fantasy. Amish get (and die) from Covid just as anyone else.
COVID-19 Outbreak in an Amish Community — Ohio, May 2020
This report describes mitigation efforts following a COVID-19 outbreak in an Amish community.
"...die) from Covid just as anyone else."
Pretty 'liberal' use of the term 'die.'
And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:
"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.
Yet it served as the Democrat's reason to destroy the economy.
Still getting paid by the post, I see.
He's the first sitting member of Congress to die from Covid-19.
Cue the retarded "Duhhhhh, he died from lung cancer, derp derp, derp" comments. Who will be the first?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
Rep. Ron Wright of Texas, who was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2018, has died at the age of 67 after contracting COVID-19, a spokesperson announced on Monday. Wright is the first sitting member of Congress to die after testing positive for the virus. People shared messages of condolences following the news of his death.
COVID-19 live updates: 'Extremely unlikely' virus came from Chinese lab, WHO says
A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 106 million people worldwide and killed over 2.3 million of them.
Where was your consternation when Cuomo sent tens of thousands to die? Your tears are dry and your words are hollow.
Who has tears? Who has consternation? This clown held public rallies and conducted public business without wearing a mask. So his constituents didn't, either.
So he did. Millions wore masks in California and still contracted it. You make no point.
View attachment 454696
Dummy, that's a fantasy. Amish get (and die) from Covid just as anyone else.
COVID-19 Outbreak in an Amish Community — Ohio, May 2020
This report describes mitigation efforts following a COVID-19 outbreak in an Amish community.
"...die) from Covid just as anyone else."
Pretty 'liberal' use of the term 'die.'
And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:
"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.
Yet it served as the Democrat's reason to destroy the economy.
Exactly, which makes one think the whole damn thing is a set up.
AntonToo
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...Half a million more Americans are dead over the last year compared to normal mortality expectancy. Please STFU with your ignorant, pathetic, batshit crazy stupidy.
You are a cancer on this world and I seriously hope you get everything you've earned for a lifetime of insane bs spreading.
AntonToo
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He's the first sitting member of Congress to die from Covid-19.
Cue the retarded "Duhhhhh, he died from lung cancer, derp derp, derp" comments. Who will be the first?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
Rep. Ron Wright of Texas, who was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2018, has died at the age of 67 after contracting COVID-19, a spokesperson announced on Monday. Wright is the first sitting member of Congress to die after testing positive for the virus. People shared messages of condolences following the news of his death.
COVID-19 live updates: 'Extremely unlikely' virus came from Chinese lab, WHO says
A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 106 million people worldwide and killed over 2.3 million of them.
Where was your consternation when Cuomo sent tens of thousands to die? Your tears are dry and your words are hollow.
Who has tears? Who has consternation? This clown held public rallies and conducted public business without wearing a mask. So his constituents didn't, either.
So he did. Millions wore masks in California and still contracted it. You make no point.
View attachment 454696
Dummy, that's a fantasy. Amish get (and die) from Covid just as anyone else.
COVID-19 Outbreak in an Amish Community — Ohio, May 2020
This report describes mitigation efforts following a COVID-19 outbreak in an Amish community.
"...die) from Covid just as anyone else."
Pretty 'liberal' use of the term 'die.'
And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:
"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.
Yet it served as the Democrat's reason to destroy the economy.
Exactly, which makes one think the whole damn thing is a set up.
Thinking? Thats a very generous description of what is going on in in the head of people that don't think half a million Americans dead is a serious matter. WITHOUT The counter measures (which just about killed the flu this season) that number would more like 2-3 million.
He's the first sitting member of Congress to die from Covid-19.
Cue the retarded "Duhhhhh, he died from lung cancer, derp derp, derp" comments. Who will be the first?
US Representative Ron Wright dies following COVID-19 diagnosis at 67
Rep. Ron Wright of Texas, who was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2018, has died at the age of 67 after contracting COVID-19, a spokesperson announced on Monday. Wright is the first sitting member of Congress to die after testing positive for the virus. People shared messages of condolences following the news of his death.
COVID-19 live updates: 'Extremely unlikely' virus came from Chinese lab, WHO says
A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 106 million people worldwide and killed over 2.3 million of them.
Where was your consternation when Cuomo sent tens of thousands to die? Your tears are dry and your words are hollow.
Who has tears? Who has consternation? This clown held public rallies and conducted public business without wearing a mask. So his constituents didn't, either.
So he did. Millions wore masks in California and still contracted it. You make no point.
View attachment 454696
Dummy, that's a fantasy. Amish get (and die) from Covid just as anyone else.
COVID-19 Outbreak in an Amish Community — Ohio, May 2020
This report describes mitigation efforts following a COVID-19 outbreak in an Amish community.
"...die) from Covid just as anyone else."
Pretty 'liberal' use of the term 'die.'
And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:
"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.
Yet it served as the Democrat's reason to destroy the economy.
Still getting paid by the post, I see.
And that is your problem.....you see nothing.
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