Up to 9.5% of your income is going to healthcare

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    Up to 9.5% of your income is going to healthcare and free gifts for welfare leeches and illegal aliens.
    this is going to be enforced by the IRS


    (this percent can be raised at any time)


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    Romney implemented the ObamaCare prototype in Massachusetts.
    both Romney and Newt have attended classes on how to sell the bill to the public.
    Newt for 8? 12? years supported the forced health insurance payments mandate.

    the "waiver for states" Romney talks about is already in the bill.
    it says that states have to provide Federal health insurance or better.


    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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    That's not what that chart says. The chart says that if you make 400% of poverty line, the most you can be charged for insurance premiums is 9.5% of your salary.
     
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    Raising the percentage of a person's income they need to spend on premiums in the exchange before they get any federal premium assistance lowers the feds' financial commitment. That is, it reduces the amount the government spends on premium assistance, at the expense of people under 400% FPL buying insurance through an exchange.

    I could see certain conservative elements pursuing that.
     
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    according to yous people...any "Capitalist" is going to seek the maximum profits...right?

    also, a "Capitalist" is going to work to raise those limits, ...it's in their nature.



    it was nice of the Socialists, the heroes of the poor, to open a route for the evil Capitalists to get guaranteed profits from the public....all to be enforced by the IRS
     
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    The subsidies are competitively bid, i.e. they're set by market forces. They're tagged only to the price of the second cheapest silver plan (70% actuarial value). Only for that plan--and plans of lower actuarial value that presumably have lower premiums--does the subsidy pay the full freight above the individual contribution you posted in the OP.

    That is, just as if individuals were paying the entire premium themselves there is an inherent bias in the market toward less expensive plans because the least expensive plans remain the least expensive choice for the individual.

    It's still not clear you're getting what those numbers in the OP represent. They indicate the relative contributions of a subsidy-eligible individual buying insurance in an exchange (which most Americans won't be doing) and the federal government toward that second cheapest silver plan. Varying the relative contributions between citizen and government doesn't necessarily change the total premium being paid to an insurance company.
     
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    One day, Republicans will turn injured and sick people away from emergency rooms. As they walk by, some will laughingly call out, "Let them Die", then "applaud".
     
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    you can post what ever hocus pocus you want.
    the fact is, every working person and employer is going to pay a big expense for invented health insurance premiums.

    and it's going to be a huge incentive for illegals to come to the country, knowing that the working people of the country are going to take care of all their bills.
    ...even more-so then they do now
     
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    The table you posted in the OP doesn't apply to people getting group insurance through their employer.

    Illegals aren't eligible for the subsidies this thread is about. Indeed, they're even forbidden from buying insurance in the exchanges entirely with their own money.
     
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    Would anyone pay $3000 a year for medical insurance that provided coverage 24/7 no matter what no matter where?

    IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL would cover every person for all necessary medical care 24/7 to include:

    * Wellness
    * prescription drugs
    * hospital
    * surgical
    * outpatient services
    * primary and preventive care
    * emergency services
    * dental
    * mental health
    * home health
    * physical therapy
    * rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
    * vision care
    * hearing services including hearing aids
    * chiropractic
    * durable
    * medical equipment
    * palliative care
    * long term care

    No deductibles No Co-pays

    A family of four making the median income of $56,200 would pay approximately $2,700 a year for all health care costs.
     
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    in the currect bill ,illegals are exempt from having to purchase health insurance, which means they're going directly on public assistance.
    ....which means the other half of Mexico is going to be up here, and you're going to pay for it.


    ...and just a side note, for you people who listen to BS,
    according to the author/promoter of the bill, the 2% of people of Massachusetts who are not paying into the health care plan , are NOT going to have full coverage.
     

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