It will happen if enough people realise they have been conned and they demand their political representatives deliver it to them.
Its hard for people to come to terms with the truth when all there is on television, internet, and etc. is propaganda.
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It will happen if enough people realise they have been conned and they demand their political representatives deliver it to them.
Its hard for people to come to terms with the truth when all there is on television, internet, and etc. is propaganda.
You still haven't explained medical tourism?
yeah, thanks i have worked in the insurance business for 10 years and still am. That includes healthcare). The system is not broken. You talk about 40+ million uninsured yet you don't want to bring up the fact that over 50% of those are illegal immigrants.
Guess what, 2 of my cousins are doctors in spain. And wanna to know what he told me. If I got 2 phone calls in the middle of the night, one from the social practice, and the other from my private practice.....where do you think I am going to go...His private practice.
you say how the system is so great in other places, yet i isn't. Why is the first PRIVATE hospital in Canada turning customers away?
You still haven't explained medical tourism?
"Nearly 25 000 NHS patients in England will have publicly funded surgery in private hospitals this year. This is the result of a deal between the Department of Health and two private hospital groups aimed at cutting waiting lists for surgery. The first operations under the scheme should take place in a few weeks.
Capio Healthcare UK and the not-for-profit group Nuffield Hospitals have signed a contract to perform thousands of operations in their hospitals, in a deal designed to achieve Prime Minister Tony Blair’s goal of providing at least 125 000 extra operations over the next five years.
Seventy per cent of the staff doing the operations will come from Sweden, Ireland, and other European countries, and the rest will be clinical staff from the British independent hospitals participating or seconded from the NHS to work in their spare time. Fifteen Capio Healthcare hospitals will offer surgery to NHS patients, as well as 35 Nuffield hospitals. All 28 strategic health authorities in England will send patients to the independent hospitals."
Private hospitals to provide operations for 25 000 NHS patients
Yeah, its so great the government is having independent places perform surgeries to undercut waiting times.
You guys are clueless
You're only interested in condemning a policy you don't like. So you look for examples where bad things have happened and you use them to support your condemnation of a policy you don't like.
You are making yourself look clueless old chum.
If the system in Canada and the UK is so bad then why hasn't it been changed? France, Australia, the Scandinavian countries and many, many others have similar systems and they aren't going to get rid of them. Why? Because they are far superior to the dog eat dog approach America has to health care, there is now way will touch the American system with a barge-pole. The rest of us - spare me, "I'm American, I don't give a shit what a ferriner thinks" - are stunned that you people continue with your shitty system. A triumph of propaganda over common sense. If I want to scare America all I have to do is yell, "this is socialist!" and there's screaming and yelling and pitchforks as the good folks come out to do battle with the latest evil socialist programme.
But keep deluding yourself, don't let facts get in your way.
Stop that crap. You are seeking out failures caused by ideology. If a national health system is underfunded it will fail. That's a given. In the UK if they have failed to properly fund the NHS then it will fail, in parts. But I don't hear anyone calling for it to be replaced. It apparently needs more funding in the UK.
Now, how about France? What about a success story? No?
In my country we have a successful two-tier system. It pisses off the ideologues in both sides because it allows people to have private insurance and use a private doctor/surgeon and seek treatment in a private hospital if they can afford the insurance. The beauty of it is that it takes the pressure off the public system. Pragmatists love it, the ideologues don't. But neither the free marketeers nor the pure nationalisers will win the debate because the ordinary people, pragmatic voters, know it works.
They are superior in cost savings. But we both know that is not the be all and end all of makes for quality health care. In terms of technology, services, resources and responsiveness the U.S. is number one or very near the top. The WHO report so often cited by critics of our system around here will back me on that.
Not perfomring enough surgeries isn't underfunding. That's not enough PEOPLE in the publicly funded system to do surgeries.
You claimed the UK had problems because it was underfunded. But the example was about them not able to perform enough surgeries to meet demand. Maybe the don't have enough operating rooms or enough surgeons or whatever, but that isn't a funding problem.
heath care and health care SYSTEM are two very different things, folks.
We have wonderful health care in this nation, and at the same time we have the worst health care SYSTEM in the industrialized world.
Fairness of financial contribution: When WHO measured the fairness of financial contribution to health systems, countries lined up differently. The measurement is based on the fraction of a households capacity to spend (income minus food expenditure) that goes on health care (including tax payments, social insurance, private insurance and out of pocket payments). Colombia was the top-rated country in this category, followed by Luxembourg, Belgium, Djibouti, Denmark, Ireland, Germany, Norway, Japan and Finland.
Oh okay, thanks for that.
But - not being facetious here - perhaps they have too many people or not enough hospitals. Either way it seems to me to be incompetent government. But given the Blair years I'm not surprised and before Blair was Major and the Thatcher nutter, so again I'm not surprised.
The problem for me was the standards by which countries were ranked in cost.