Unequal distribution of wealth

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?
 
The world is unfair.

No it isn't. The world is a chunk of rock orbiting a garden variety yellow star. It is not fair or unfair. It just is. The economy on the other hand is a man made thing. If the economy is unfair, that has nothing to do with market Gods, physics or any other natural laws. It has to do with people deciding to be unfair.

But of course, I made no argument regarding fairness. I made a simple statement of truth on what a mal distribution of wealth does. It makes capitalism eat itelf. Nobody made any substantive retort.

As human beings with free will we can decide either to let capitalism eat itself or we can decide to save capitalism by redistributing wealth. Those are the choices. But, you don't want to deal with reality. You want to live in a fantasy world where economies aren't the collective decisions of humans but rather they are run by Gods or some amorphous natural law. You want to assert that there is some inevitability in most of the population living in squalor while the miniscule minority lives in conspicuous opulence. And, shockingly, you want this "let them eat cake" ideology to be called fairness.

That's why we call you wingnuts.
At least you're not suffering from your insanity.

I use the left's version of 'fairness' meaning everyone's entitled to the same outcome. If you have gum, everyone has gum. If you have a fancy car, everyone's entitled to a fancy car. If you live in a mansion, either everyone gets one or you can't have it either. Equality of results.

The world ain't fair. It is ruled by entropy. Civilization has costs and expenditures and requires sacrifice in work, blood and treasure. If you don't pay these prices, you don't deserve shit.

But what do we have in this nation? Escapees from the fucking Lollypop Guild dancing around like a buncha Kansas City faggots (thank you Slim Pickens) demanding things they didn't work for, sacrifice for, or deserve merit for. They have neeeeeeeeds toooooooo... and it's not niiiiiiiice to let anyone suffer, regardless of how irresponsible and indigent they have been.

This is exactly what Kipling was talking about in the Gods of the Copybook Pages. The fables of pop culture 'wisdom' is stupidity at best. Work or starve. Achieve and gain. Lies will destroy you. Prepare for disaster.

To sum up, the American Satirist Mark Twain may have said it best:

"The world doesn't owe you anything. It was here first."
 
I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

exploitation of what? Someone's inability to compete in the market place ?
 
I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

And again... someone's else's nest egg amount is your business why??

Do you not have the freedom to earn all the money you can and accumulate all the wealth you can??

You have the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail... if you get 100X what you are worth, good for you.. if you get half of what you are worth, too bad too sad... either way it is up to you
 
When will the right ever face that allowing too much concentration of wealth in too few hands KILLS an economy.

You can not have capitalism when all the capital is in one hand.

You then have economic slavery.



Actually, you nattering nabob of nonsense, Concentrated and Unfettered Government Power in Any Hands KILLS an economy.
 
If one monkey has 100 bananas, it matters not to him if his neighbor has 10,000 bananas, if his 100 is more than he or anyone else will ever need and none are in want.

However, if one barely has enough to get buy- let alone if one is starving- while another sits atop bananas he can never eat and giving a monkey in a black gown a few extra bananas to see to it that one is not allowed to get in the way of the rich monkey's banana harvest,,,

So, the answer is to let the Monkey Government take the bananas from the monkey with more than "his share" and instead of giving those bananas that are confiscated directly to the monkey that doesn't have "his share" the Monkey Government gives a percentage of those that are confiscated to his buddies in and outside of the Monkey Government. Thus the monkey that doesn't have "his share" of bananas gets what's left over after the Monkey Government decides how many bananas they want to distribute to their buddies.

Sounds like a great solution to me.

I know, let's let the monkey that has more than "his share" donate directly to the monkey that does not have "his share" and take the Monkey Government out of the equation.

Rick
 
I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

And again... someone's else's nest egg amount is your business why??

Do you not have the freedom to earn all the money you can and accumulate all the wealth you can??

You have the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail... if you get 100X what you are worth, good for you.. if you get half of what you are worth, too bad too sad... either way it is up to you
You're defending the alleged "freedom" to exploit people for you own benefit. If such a freedom really existed, why not allow indentured servitude? You owe me a debt, like the company house my coal mine built. You must work the mine for the rent of that house. At the end of the day, if you haven't satisfied the rent, you must work it off until you do. If that means you get nothing in compensation for your work other than housing, tough. You have the "freedom" to crawl out of this village and starve until you find other work. A Conservative's wet dream.
 
I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

If they are being "exploited" because the CEO makes more then they do then THEY are free to leave and get a different job.





 
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

And again... someone's else's nest egg amount is your business why??

Do you not have the freedom to earn all the money you can and accumulate all the wealth you can??

You have the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail... if you get 100X what you are worth, good for you.. if you get half of what you are worth, too bad too sad... either way it is up to you
You're defending the alleged "freedom" to exploit people for you own benefit. If such a freedom really existed, why not allow indentured servitude? You owe me a debt, like the company house my coal mine built. You must work the mine for the rent of that house. At the end of the day, if you haven't satisfied the rent, you must work it off until you do. If that means you get nothing in compensation for your work other than housing, tough. You have the "freedom" to crawl out of this village and starve until you find other work. A Conservative's wet dream.



When did saving what one has earned turn into exploiting other people?

What a sad, pea green with envy outlook.
 
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When will the right ever face that allowing too much concentration of wealth in too few hands KILLS an economy.

You can not have capitalism when all the capital is in one hand.

You then have economic slavery.



Actually, you nattering nabob of nonsense, Concentrated and Unfettered Government Power in Any Hands KILLS an economy.
Concentrated unfettered Capitalism leads to revolution because concentrated unfettered Capitalism by its nature is exploitative.
 
And again... someone's else's nest egg amount is your business why??

Do you not have the freedom to earn all the money you can and accumulate all the wealth you can??

You have the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail... if you get 100X what you are worth, good for you.. if you get half of what you are worth, too bad too sad... either way it is up to you
You're defending the alleged "freedom" to exploit people for you own benefit. If such a freedom really existed, why not allow indentured servitude? You owe me a debt, like the company house my coal mine built. You must work the mine for the rent of that house. At the end of the day, if you haven't satisfied the rent, you must work it off until you do. If that means you get nothing in compensation for your work other than housing, tough. You have the "freedom" to crawl out of this village and starve until you find other work. A Conservative's wet dream.



When did saving what one has earned turned into exploiting other people?

What a sad, pea green with envy outlook.
"Earning". The concept under argument here.
 
I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.


Forcing me to work for somebody else is what the distribution of wealth is.

Distribution of wealth is Marxism.

Wealth is nothing more than ones labor, wealth is my labor in a tangible form I can trade for another person's labor.

That is why its bad, distribution of wealth is stealing, forced slavery, servitude, socialist/marxism.

Wealth is the physical representation of my labor, my work, my success, or my dumb luck.

Again, its the unequal distribution of intelligence that is the problem.

Wealth is much more than ones labor.


The 1% did not do the labor that created their wealth.

Most of them inherited it.

Prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rick
 
I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

If they are being "exploited" because the CEO makes more then they do then THEY are free to leave and get a different job.





Ever live in a company town? A town where one employer dominates the economy? A steel mill, a coal mine, a factory upon which the entire town depends? And when that company leaves, what happens to the rest of the town? what happens to the community services because the tax base has dried up? What happens to the real estate values of those living there?

Sometimes opportunity is where you live and the hope of moving on is outside your grasp.
 
In spite of right wing rhetoric.....Nobody is looking to take away money or assets from the wealthy and give it to the poor.

But there is no denying that we currently have an unequal distribution of available wealth that is only getting worse. What we are looking at is examining those policies and benefits available to the wealthy that contribute to them accumulating more wealth while not benefitting society as a whole.

We also need to look at policies and benefits available to working class Americans that impede their ability to acquire wealth. These include affordable healthcare, education and housing
 
You're defending the alleged "freedom" to exploit people for you own benefit. If such a freedom really existed, why not allow indentured servitude? You owe me a debt, like the company house my coal mine built. You must work the mine for the rent of that house. At the end of the day, if you haven't satisfied the rent, you must work it off until you do. If that means you get nothing in compensation for your work other than housing, tough. You have the "freedom" to crawl out of this village and starve until you find other work. A Conservative's wet dream.



When did saving what one has earned turned into exploiting other people?

What a sad, pea green with envy outlook.
"Earning". The concept under argument here.

Whether I get my money from back breaking labor, inventing a new product, winning the lottery, producing Amish midget porn, finding a gold meteorite, inherited it from my parent's efforts, or got it from my 2nd wish from a goddamn genie is of no consequence
 
In spite of right wing rhetoric.....Nobody is looking to take away money or assets from the wealthy and give it to the poor.

But there is no denying that we currently have an unequal distribution of available wealth that is only getting worse. What we are looking at is examining those policies and benefits available to the wealthy that contribute to them accumulating more wealth while not benefitting society as a whole.

We also need to look at policies and benefits available to working class Americans that impede their ability to acquire wealth. These include affordable healthcare, education and housing

The only thing that impedes your ability to acquire wealth is you... You have the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail... the same freedom every other citizen has... and it is ONLY that freedom that the government should ensure... It is not on government to give you a leg up at the expense of others for healthcare or education as an adult or a better house... nor should it be
 
When will the right ever face that allowing too much concentration of wealth in too few hands KILLS an economy.

You can not have capitalism when all the capital is in one hand.

You then have economic slavery.



Actually, you nattering nabob of nonsense, Concentrated and Unfettered Government Power in Any Hands KILLS an economy.

Why do you hate the government our founders left us?
 
Because consumer spending drives the economy. When wealth is held by fewer consumers, there are fewer customers, therefore less spending.

When a CEO is paid 400, 500, 700 times what the average production employee is paid, it has to be due to exploitation. Are you defending exploitative economic practices? Where then should the exploitation stop? After wages? After health and safety? After environmental damage?

If they are being "exploited" because the CEO makes more then they do then THEY are free to leave and get a different job.





Ever live in a company town? A town where one employer dominates the economy? A steel mill, a coal mine, a factory upon which the entire town depends? And when that company leaves, what happens to the rest of the town? what happens to the community services because the tax base has dried up? What happens to the real estate values of those living there?

Sometimes opportunity is where you live and the hope of moving on is outside your grasp.

And what does any of that have to do with the "have nots" wanting what the "haves" have?

I understand what you are saying about company towns, but that has nothing to do with wealth distribution. Social "responsibility" is not wealth distribution.
 
In spite of right wing rhetoric.....Nobody is looking to take away money or assets from the wealthy and give it to the poor.

But there is no denying that we currently have an unequal distribution of available wealth that is only getting worse. What we are looking at is examining those policies and benefits available to the wealthy that contribute to them accumulating more wealth while not benefitting society as a whole.

We also need to look at policies and benefits available to working class Americans that impede their ability to acquire wealth. These include affordable healthcare, education and housing

The only thing that impedes your ability to acquire wealth is you... You have the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail... the same freedom every other citizen has... and it is ONLY that freedom that the government should ensure... It is not on government to give you a leg up at the expense of others for healthcare or education as an adult or a better house... nor should it be

BULLSHIT!

If you start out with a two million inheritance you have a HUGE leg up.
 

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