UM & OSU "rematch" for national title (poll)

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Should UM play OSU for the national title?

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  1. Redhots
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    Article written before the game that sums up my thoughts.

    MITCH ALBOM: Why not U-M, OSU in rematch for title?

    November 15, 2006

    In boxing, every guy has a plan until he gets hit. In college football, everyone has a national championship system -- until it doesn't work.

    Lately, pundits have been shooting down a possible Michigan-Ohio State rematch for the national title. They don't like it. Even Bo Schembechler has said he wouldn't want one. Of course, I remember Bo when he didn't want any national championships, either.

    The arguments go like this: "If Michigan and Ohio State play again for the national title, it waters down this weekend's game."

    Or "If they play again, it's like splitting the series." Or "If they play again, and the loser wins the next time, then it's ... it's ..."

    It's what?

    It's -- to paraphrase Hyman Roth in "The Godfather" -- the system we've chosen.

    And that system is to let computers help rank teams and put the top two in a national championship game.

    Hey. I didn't invent the thing. I've been in favor of a four-team playoff for years. But we don't have that. We have rankings. And if No. 1 plays No. 2 and it's a close game, and you follow the way this dumb system has worked all year, then the two of them playing each other again is hardly out of line -- and it shouldn't matter whether you like it or not.

    You can't be Mr. Spock most of the season and Captain Kirk at the end.

    Can't stop it now

    Remember that computers don't account for things like hype or boredom. The computer doesn't care that you can't get revved up for the same game twice in seven weeks. (Which, by the way -- with sports what it is -- is laughable.)

    A computer's job is to stick with the facts and apply them as equally in the first week as in the last. So let's run a few scenarios.

    Say Michigan-Ohio State is decided by a late field goal. Michigan wins. (Hey, it's my scenario, I can pick who I want.) Who, besides Ohio State, should U-M play?

    Well, next up is USC, No. 3 in the BCS rankings -- the same USC that squeaked past lesser opponents this year and only jumped this high because a bunch of other one-loss teams became two-loss teams. Now suddenly the Trojans, who got thumped by -- ahem -- Oregon State, should play for the title over the Buckeyes? Why? Isn't losing to Oregon State worse than losing to Michigan?

    But wait. USC has to play Notre Dame, which has been climbing up the outside like a racehorse. What if the Fighting Irish upset the Trojans? Their fans would say Notre Dame must play Michigan for the title.

    Except these two teams already met, and the Wolverines trashed them. Why should the Irish get a second chance when the Buckeyes can't? Why is a rematch of an early-season game any better than a rematch of the season finale?

    Someone will make a case for No. 4 Florida. But the Gators already lost to Auburn, a team that has lost twice, including a beating by Georgia. Someone else will say, hey, No. 6 Rutgers is undefeated. But are you telling me a Michigan-Rutgers national championship is more desirable than UM-OSU?

    You live with a computer, or you lose it. You can't just unplug it.

    Blame the system

    Now it's true, the BCS also is determined by two polls voted on by coaches and writers. And those voters might say Ohio State had its chance or only conference winners should play for the title or nobody likes a rematch.

    But none of that is true in other sports. In pro football, the team you play in the season finale can be the team you face in the Super Bowl. In the NBA or NHL, conference winners can be eliminated by wild-card teams.

    You can say that's what makes college football different. But that's silly. What really makes it different is the dumb BCS system -- a system designed to address this problem.

    By the way, if we had a playoff involving the top four teams, with No. 1 playing No. 4, and Michigan beat Ohio State on Saturday, guess who U-M might face in the next game.

    No. 4 Ohio State.

    The truth is, rematches don't ruin anything except an argument. So is college football in the national championship business or the argument business?

    Sometimes I can't tell.
     
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    The whole debate would be moot if they had a 4 or 8 team playoff but since its here, yes Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Their only loss on the year was to the best team in the country by 3 points. That puts them in the game. The fact that they both have to sit for 6 weeks without playing a game and then are expected to play for the national title is beyond ridiculous though.

    College football will always be a stepchild in my eyes to NFL and College basketball because of it.
     
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    Michigan has already been beaten by the current #1 team. To let them have a rematch for the national championship game would be both unprecedented and a big, fat FU to all the other schools in the running. I think it should be USC, provided they win out.
     
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    I'd agree with you, had the game been at Michigan or a neutral site.
     
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    You can't be bringing something as intangible as homefield advantage into national standings. Once that can of worms is open, it won't be long until 1-loss SEC teams are ranked as if they were undefeated, which I think is both fairer and far more likely to happen than what's being proposed here.
     
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    Sure I can. In fact, I just did. I welcome whatever worms you wish to extract from your can.
     
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    Just more evidence that College Football is retarded. We're discussing a team's schedule and not whether or not they are the best team for the game.

    Lets all say it together. Playoffs. MAybe one day when the old head AD's at these big name schools die.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Looks like a moot point, now. USC has been bumped up to #2 with their crushing defeat of Notre Dame.
     
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    Which is stupid, when you think about it. Michigan had the SAME crushing defeat of Notre Dame, only it was AT Notre Dame.

    USC loses to unranked Oregon State by 2, and Michigan loses to #1 Ohio State by 3, and USC is the better team?

    Please. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell ya.
     

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