Ukraine Whistleblower May Not Testify In Person

Protected by the deep state
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Your scumbag heroes are the deep state, moron
And you are with your hero Putin.
Putin isn't my hero, dumbass. However, he worries me less than Congressional Democrats.
That's right, Hitler is your hero.
Cheap insults are all you leftwing dumbasses have.
 
I don't see a problem with that. trump was given a take home test by Mueller for his lawyers to complete for him, because they knew he would be incapable of telling the truth.

And he failed even that buy refusing to answer any Obstruction questions.
He wasn't legally required to answer them. Furthermore, they were all designed to be perjury traps.

Yep, when above the law you don't have to answer questions from investigators. :rolleyes:

Swamp is thy name.
Idiot. You’re protected by the law from answering questions from investigators.

No you are not. You can plead the 5th, but thats not what Trump did.

Besides, there is only one reason to not answer. Guilty as sin.
You plead the 5th in court, not when being interrogated by cops. You can just tell them to fuck off. I've done so in the past.
 
If the enemy party and the media want it, and prevents the opposing party from participating, it can.

If you're going to take what you think is a legitimate shot at the king, at least have the spine to show your face.

Of what Trump appointees do you speak?

Let’s agree to disagree on that for now. The more important point imo is this:

And as an aside, if you take that route...what about the next whistleblower and the next...and the one that pops up when it is a Dem in the hot seat...what then?

First line, last post.

Shot at the king...interesting. King.

So you think, no matter who's tits are in the wringer - the whistle blower should be exposed?

And face retaliation - death threats - threats against family - loss of job?

That would certainly prevent whistle blowing.

Is that good?

Why should the accuser be believed over the accused when only one side can question him? When one side clearly presents their case as a work of fiction from the committee chairman?

Fan of the Inquisition?

The accuser isn’t automatically “believed”. Do you understand how the process works? They review the complaint, and investigate it, and based on that evidence, determine whether to move forward. The whistle blower is just the messenger.

There is no work of fiction at this point, only one side who seem to believe the president is above the law. I am willing to bet if this Obama and not Trump you would be singing a different tune.

The whistleblower is protected by anonymity precisely for the reasons we see laid out here in USMB. People calling for him to be fired, jailed, hung for treason. It is vitriolic lunacy that endangers a very important program that helps keep our government accountable.

Next time it might be a Dem President in the hot seat. What will you do then?

That's all very nice. So why did Schiff make up his docudramatic presentation if there actually is a whistleblower of any credibility?

That was a work of fiction, clearly.
 
Democrats are doing their damnedest to keep the inquiry illegitimate.

WASHINGTON—Lawyers for the CIA officer whose whistleblower complaint helped ignite an impeachment inquiry into President Trump have asked Congress whether their client could submit testimony in writing


Ukraine Whistleblower May Not Testify In Person
The whistleblower is a coward. What are they trying to hide? Because it’s Brennan, a biased political hack? The guy that was a communist in the 1950’s? This person must not have any credibility or Democrats wouldn’t be hiding them. Fucking coward.
All whistleblowers are protected by anonymity under the law. Otherwise they would be subject to retaliation.
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn’t change the rule. That is one of the lies being perpetrated.
Lindsey Graham: "Why Did They Change The Rules" Allowing Whistleblowers To Cite Hearsay? "This Thing Stinks"
Lindsey Gramnisty is a LIAR!
 
Just wait till the Senate gets a hold of him in a real impeachment. It's called subpoena and if the left can issue them, so can the right.

The left HAS to maintain this "inquiry" because they know damn good and well that a true vote of impeachment would give republicans subpoena rights and the last thing they want is any of these asshats behind this attack on Trump to have to go under oath.
It’s not just that, but holding a vote means giving the people their voice and they can’t hold a vote for something they know isn’t supported. The media only wants us to think it is but if it had support they’d have put it to the floor by now. People are waking up big time and it’s such a beautiful thing. It’s been lonely on this island for the last 14 years of my life
 
The whistleblower is a coward. What are they trying to hide? Because it’s Brennan, a biased political hack? The guy that was a communist in the 1950’s? This person must not have any credibility or Democrats wouldn’t be hiding them. Fucking coward.
All whistleblowers are protected by anonymity under the law. Otherwise they would be subject to retaliation.
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn’t change the rule. That is one of the lies being perpetrated.
Lindsey Graham: "Why Did They Change The Rules" Allowing Whistleblowers To Cite Hearsay? "This Thing Stinks"
Lindsey Gramnisty is a LIAR!
Spits an imbecile who believes Schiff tells the truth.
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn't, just another Tramp lie mindlessly parroted by foolish SUCKERS!
They did change the rule, dumbass:

Intelligence community changed whistleblower rules to include hearsay shortly before complaint was filed

The Federalist investigation revealed …

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

The newly revised whistleblower document, called a “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, was uploaded September 24, a few days before the Trump complaint was declassified and publicly released. Markings indicate the form was actually revised in August 2019.
The Federalist is full of shit! The law does not require first hand knowledge, just a "reasonable belief."
Here is what the actual law says:
2. The term “Protected Disclosure” is defined as: a. A disclosure of information by an employee to a supervisor in the employee’s direct chain of command up to and including the head of the employing agency, to the Inspector General (IG) of the employing agency or employing IC element, to the DNI, to the Inspector General of the IC (IC IG), or to a congressional intelligence committee or a member of a congressional intelligence committee consistent with the procedures prescribed by Congress in the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998, Section 8H of the Inspector General Act of 1978, and similar provisions in Section 103H of the National Security Act of 1947 and Section 17 of the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949, or to an employee designated by any of the above officials for the purpose of receiving such disclosures, that the employee reasonably believes evidences a violation of any law, rule, or regulation; or gross mismanagement, a gross waste of funds, an abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety;
 
All whistleblowers are protected by anonymity under the law. Otherwise they would be subject to retaliation.
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn’t change the rule. That is one of the lies being perpetrated.
Lindsey Graham: "Why Did They Change The Rules" Allowing Whistleblowers To Cite Hearsay? "This Thing Stinks"
Lindsey Gramnisty is a LIAR!
Spits an imbecile who believes Schiff tells the truth.
Spits an imbecile who believes Tramp tells the truth.
 
All whistleblowers are protected by anonymity under the law. Otherwise they would be subject to retaliation.
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn’t change the rule. That is one of the lies being perpetrated.
Lindsey Graham: "Why Did They Change The Rules" Allowing Whistleblowers To Cite Hearsay? "This Thing Stinks"
Lindsey Gramnisty is a LIAR!
Spits an imbecile who believes Schiff tells the truth.
Schiff is a fucking worm. Sonofabitch wants to ruin the Constitution of the United States of America for purely partisan reasons.
 
Democrats are doing their damnedest to keep the inquiry illegitimate.

WASHINGTON—Lawyers for the CIA officer whose whistleblower complaint helped ignite an impeachment inquiry into President Trump have asked Congress whether their client could submit testimony in writing


Ukraine Whistleblower May Not Testify In Person
I don't see a problem with that. trump was given a take home test by Mueller for his lawyers to complete for him, because they knew he would be incapable of telling the truth.

And he failed even that buy refusing to answer any Obstruction questions.
He wasn't legally required to answer them. Furthermore, they were all designed to be perjury traps.
There is no such thing as a "perjury trap."
Perjury trap - Wikipedia
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn’t change the rule. That is one of the lies being perpetrated.
Lindsey Graham: "Why Did They Change The Rules" Allowing Whistleblowers To Cite Hearsay? "This Thing Stinks"
Lindsey Gramnisty is a LIAR!
Spits an imbecile who believes Schiff tells the truth.
Spits an imbecile who believes Tramp tells the truth.
He tells the truth about Democrats: they are all sleazy insane liars.
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn't, just another Tramp lie mindlessly parroted by foolish SUCKERS!
They did change the rule, dumbass:

Intelligence community changed whistleblower rules to include hearsay shortly before complaint was filed

The Federalist investigation revealed …

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

The newly revised whistleblower document, called a “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, was uploaded September 24, a few days before the Trump complaint was declassified and publicly released. Markings indicate the form was actually revised in August 2019.
The Federalist is full of shit! The law does not require first hand knowledge, just a "reasonable belief."
Here is what the actual law says:
2. The term “Protected Disclosure” is defined as: a. A disclosure of information by an employee to a supervisor in the employee’s direct chain of command up to and including the head of the employing agency, to the Inspector General (IG) of the employing agency or employing IC element, to the DNI, to the Inspector General of the IC (IC IG), or to a congressional intelligence committee or a member of a congressional intelligence committee consistent with the procedures prescribed by Congress in the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998, Section 8H of the Inspector General Act of 1978, and similar provisions in Section 103H of the National Security Act of 1947 and Section 17 of the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949, or to an employee designated by any of the above officials for the purpose of receiving such disclosures, that the employee reasonably believes evidences a violation of any law, rule, or regulation; or gross mismanagement, a gross waste of funds, an abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety;
The law did require it previously, moron. That's the point of the article.

Your quote is a non sequitur. How "protected person" is defined is irrelevant.
 
Democrats are doing their damnedest to keep the inquiry illegitimate.

WASHINGTON—Lawyers for the CIA officer whose whistleblower complaint helped ignite an impeachment inquiry into President Trump have asked Congress whether their client could submit testimony in writing


Ukraine Whistleblower May Not Testify In Person
/—-/ I don’t think there is an actual whistleblower, just a composite of deep state operatives.
 
Democrats are doing their damnedest to keep the inquiry illegitimate.

WASHINGTON—Lawyers for the CIA officer whose whistleblower complaint helped ignite an impeachment inquiry into President Trump have asked Congress whether their client could submit testimony in writing


Ukraine Whistleblower May Not Testify In Person
/—-/ I don’t think there is an actual whistleblower, just a composite of deep state operatives.
Schiff and a team of Dim lawyers are the whistleblower.
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn't, just another Tramp lie mindlessly parroted by foolish SUCKERS!
They did change the rule, dumbass:

Intelligence community changed whistleblower rules to include hearsay shortly before complaint was filed

The Federalist investigation revealed …

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

The newly revised whistleblower document, called a “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, was uploaded September 24, a few days before the Trump complaint was declassified and publicly released. Markings indicate the form was actually revised in August 2019.
The Federalist is full of shit! The law does not require first hand knowledge, just a "reasonable belief."
Here is what the actual law says:
2. The term “Protected Disclosure” is defined as: a. A disclosure of information by an employee to a supervisor in the employee’s direct chain of command up to and including the head of the employing agency, to the Inspector General (IG) of the employing agency or employing IC element, to the DNI, to the Inspector General of the IC (IC IG), or to a congressional intelligence committee or a member of a congressional intelligence committee consistent with the procedures prescribed by Congress in the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998, Section 8H of the Inspector General Act of 1978, and similar provisions in Section 103H of the National Security Act of 1947 and Section 17 of the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949, or to an employee designated by any of the above officials for the purpose of receiving such disclosures, that the employee reasonably believes evidences a violation of any law, rule, or regulation; or gross mismanagement, a gross waste of funds, an abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety;
The law did require it previously, moron. That's the point of the article.

Your quote is a non sequitur. How "protected person" is defined is irrelevant.
The law is from 2014 :asshole:
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn't, just another Tramp lie mindlessly parroted by foolish SUCKERS!
They did change the rule, dumbass:

Intelligence community changed whistleblower rules to include hearsay shortly before complaint was filed

The Federalist investigation revealed …

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

The newly revised whistleblower document, called a “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, was uploaded September 24, a few days before the Trump complaint was declassified and publicly released. Markings indicate the form was actually revised in August 2019.
Lie. All wrong. All 100% wrong.Second hand info was always allowed. You rubes are being lied to.
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn't, just another Tramp lie mindlessly parroted by foolish SUCKERS!
They did change the rule, dumbass:

Intelligence community changed whistleblower rules to include hearsay shortly before complaint was filed

The Federalist investigation revealed …

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

The newly revised whistleblower document, called a “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, was uploaded September 24, a few days before the Trump complaint was declassified and publicly released. Markings indicate the form was actually revised in August 2019.
Lie. All wrong. All 100% wrong.Second hand info was always allowed. You rubes are being lied to.
Not according to the sources I've read.
 
Oh yes...why did they change the rule in August for second hand bullshit gossip to be allowed as a whistleblower?
They didn't, just another Tramp lie mindlessly parroted by foolish SUCKERS!
They did change the rule, dumbass:

Intelligence community changed whistleblower rules to include hearsay shortly before complaint was filed

The Federalist investigation revealed …

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

The newly revised whistleblower document, called a “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, was uploaded September 24, a few days before the Trump complaint was declassified and publicly released. Markings indicate the form was actually revised in August 2019.
The Federalist is full of shit! The law does not require first hand knowledge, just a "reasonable belief."
Here is what the actual law says:
2. The term “Protected Disclosure” is defined as: a. A disclosure of information by an employee to a supervisor in the employee’s direct chain of command up to and including the head of the employing agency, to the Inspector General (IG) of the employing agency or employing IC element, to the DNI, to the Inspector General of the IC (IC IG), or to a congressional intelligence committee or a member of a congressional intelligence committee consistent with the procedures prescribed by Congress in the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998, Section 8H of the Inspector General Act of 1978, and similar provisions in Section 103H of the National Security Act of 1947 and Section 17 of the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949, or to an employee designated by any of the above officials for the purpose of receiving such disclosures, that the employee reasonably believes evidences a violation of any law, rule, or regulation; or gross mismanagement, a gross waste of funds, an abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety;
The law did require it previously, moron. That's the point of the article.

Your quote is a non sequitur. How "protected person" is defined is irrelevant.
The law is from 2014 :asshole:
They changed the requirements a couple of months ago, dumbass.
 

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