Ukraine vs. Taiwan: Proxy War Proxy?

jwoodie

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The Russia/Ukraine and China/Taiwan situations are eerily similar. Both larger countries want to recover their lost provinces, and both are opposed by US foreign policy. Could it be that US support for Ukraine was intended to send a message to China that the US would support Taiwan in the same way?

If so, that policy has been a disastrous failure. Instead of demonstrating US strength and resolve, US involvement in the Ukraine conflict has exposed our military, economic and political weakness. Militarily, US support has not made Ukraine capable of defending its remaining territory, much less recovering its lost territory. Economically, the US has shown that it can't support its domestic obligations, much less afford to fight foreign wars. Politically, the US is wracked with dissent as to who are our allies and who are our enemies.

As a result, both Russia and China have become emboldened to defy US interests and take more aggressive actions, whether it be developing new offensive weapons or building military islands in international waters. While the conflict in Ukraine increasingly escalates, China may be relying on a slow squeeze policy regarding Taiwan. With US influence, resources and resolve dwindling, Taiwan may decide that cutting a deal with China is preferable to sharing Ukraine's fate.
 
The Russia/Ukraine and China/Taiwan situations are eerily similar. Both larger countries want to recover their lost provinces, and both are opposed by US foreign policy. Could it be that US support for Ukraine was intended to send a message to China that the US would support Taiwan in the same way?

If so, that policy has been a disastrous failure. Instead of demonstrating US strength and resolve, US involvement in the Ukraine conflict has exposed our military, economic and political weakness. Militarily, US support has not made Ukraine capable of defending its remaining territory, much less recovering its lost territory. Economically, the US has shown that it can't support its domestic obligations, much less afford to fight foreign wars. Politically, the US is wracked with dissent as to who are our allies and who are our enemies.

As a result, both Russia and China have become emboldened to defy US interests and take more aggressive actions, whether it be developing new offensive weapons or building military islands in international waters. While the conflict in Ukraine increasingly escalates, China may be relying on a slow squeeze policy regarding Taiwan. With US influence, resources and resolve dwindling, Taiwan may decide that cutting a deal with China is preferable to sharing Ukraine's fate.

If so, that policy has been a disastrous failure. Instead of demonstrating US strength and resolve, US involvement in the Ukraine conflict has exposed our military, economic and political weakness.

Hasn't it been two years? Russia isn't looking too strong.
 
If so, that policy has been a disastrous failure. Instead of demonstrating US strength and resolve, US involvement in the Ukraine conflict has exposed our military, economic and political weakness.

Hasn't it been two years? Russia isn't looking too strong.
The Bear Against the Sorosian Serpent

The Chucky-puppet army of the Ukraine has been Russia's greatest challenge since the Nazi behemoth. That's why Putin waited 20 years to confront it. Considering what it is up against, his army is more than holding its own against the Glowbullies.
 
The Bear Against the Sorosian Serpent

The Chucky-puppet army of the Ukraine has been Russia's greatest challenge since the Nazi behemoth. That's why Putin waited 20 years to confront it. Considering what it is up against, his army is more than holding its own against the Glowbullies.

Holding its own? The largest nation in the world? DURR
 
The Bear Against the Sorosian Serpent

The Chucky-puppet army of the Ukraine has been Russia's greatest challenge since the Nazi behemoth. That's why Putin waited 20 years to confront it. Considering what it is up against, his army is more than holding its own against the Glowbullies.
If Russia wanted to invade the entire Ukraine, why didn't it do so when it took back Crimea in 2014? The answer is that Ukraine was a neutral country and not poised to become a member of NATO and pose a military threat to Moscow. Unfortunately, the US and Europe then decided to goad Ukraine into becoming a hostile adversary to Russia by dangling promises of EU and NATO membership before it. Ukraine took that bait and started a "derussifiction" program in its border provinces with large Russian speaking populations.

During and after President Trump's term in office, anti-Russian/pro-Ukrainian propaganda reach a fever pitch in the US, and plans for Ukraine to join NATO were accelerated. This set off historical alarm bells in Moscow, and Russia decided there must be a buffer zone between itself and Ukraine in order to protect against perceived threats from NATO. After negotiations with NATO failed, Russia decided to invade Eastern Ukraine with a relatively small force in order to accomplish this purpose. The idea that Russia intended to conquer the entirety of Ukraine and then the rest of Europe is not supported by facts or logic.
 

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