U.S. signs nuke deal with Iran

[Little-Acorn]

As has been well documented, there have been embargoes and sanctions against Iran for many years, in response to Iran's constant support and instigation of terrorist activities around the world. Iran has made many agreements to stop such activities, and also to not engage in work that can lead to a nuclear bomb, and to let inspectors check their facilities regularly.

Iran, of course, has broken those promises regularly, refusing inspectors, enriching fuel, going back on agreements, etc.

So, one would expect any new "deal" to require 100% compliance with the program Iran has already agreed to, for a period of (say() two years, after which sanctions could be lifted. And it would call for inspections to be conducted of any facility, at any time, with no notice so that Iran could not hastily remove or cover up work it didn't want seen.

But instead, the present deal lifts sanctions on Iran immediately. In exchange, Iran has promised to stop breaking its promises. And Iran can refuse any inspections of military facilities. (Isn't military development of nuclear energy, exactly what we are most concerned about?)

Am I the only one who thinks this "deal" was drawn up by the authors of "Saturday Night Live"? Who wanted to produce the biggest, silliest joke they possibly could? To make the audience guffaw and ask each other, "Who would have ever proposed such a thing with a straight face?"

Are we living in a cartoon world now?

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U.S. world powers reach historic deal with Iran - Michael Crowley and Nahal Toosi - POLITICO


U.S., world powers reach historic deal with Iran

By Michael Crowley and Nahal Toosi
7/14/15 5:18 AM EDT
Updated 7/14/15 11:57 AM EDT

(snip)

According to a 159-page document posted online by Russia’s foreign ministry, which it called the final text of the deal, a U.N. resolution lifting sanctions will also express the Security Council’s “desire to build a new relationship with Iran.”

See the full text of the Iran nuke deal here:
FULL TEXT Iran deal - POLITICO

The text says also that Iran has vowed that “under no circumstances” will it ever “seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons.” And it describes a joint commission composed of its seven parties to monitor the deal’s implementation.

One issue that will draw close scrutiny from nuclear experts is Iran’s ability to research advanced nuclear technologies while its program is constrained by a deal. Iran now relies on 1970s-era centrifuges to enrich uranium, which are highly inefficient. The document posted by Russian foreign ministry says that after 8½ years Iran can begin testing up to 30 modern IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges. Analysts fear that, if Iran masters top-quality centrifuges, it might be capable of producing a bomb in a matter of months or weeks soon after the deal’s main restrictions lift in a decade.

On an issue that snagged the talks in their final days, the deal will free Iran from an arms embargo after five years, Obama said Tuesday.

 

[Statistikhengst]

A thread on this already exists.

 

[Little-Acorn]

A thread on this already exists.

That takes care of the inevitable attempts by leftists to prevent discussion.

Back to the subject:
The Koran, of course, urges its followers to lie and deceive its enemies - infidels who oppose what Islamic people want to do.

After decades of their doing exactly that, how big a boob do you have to be to now believe Iran will stick to its promises "this time"?

 

[occupied]

No one who opposes a deal is giving one minute's thought to what happens if the deal fails. Sanctions erode under increased trade with Europe and Asia, we have no leverage and Iran gets the Bomb or we go to war, the world recoils in anger from the US again unilaterally attacking another mid-east nation and Iran gets the Bomb and maybe even uses it. This is the best chance we will ever have to guide Iran towards a path we can live with. Let this chance slip away and we will be powerless to prevent an Iranian Bomb.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Opposition to this deal.....largely expressed by those who have no idea what it is....is a nutter reflex.

 

[Little-Acorn]

how big a boob do you have to be to now believe Iran will stick to its promises "this time"?

No one who opposes a deal is giving one minute's thought to what happens if the deal fails. Sanctions erode under increased trade with Europe and Asia, we have no leverage and Iran gets the Bomb or we go to war, the world recoils in anger from the US again unilaterally attacking another mid-east nation and Iran gets the Bomb and maybe even uses it. This is the best chance we will ever have to guide Iran towards a path we can live with. Let this chance slip away and we will be powerless to prevent an Iranian Bomb.

TRANSLATION: Yes, I think Iran will keep their promises this time.

(snicker)

 

[LoneLaugher]

America doesn't trust Iran.
Iran doesn't trust America.

Nutters think these things are different. Because.........America!!

 

[Little-Acorn]

America doesn't trust Iran.
Iran doesn't trust America.
Nutters think these things are different. Because.........America!!

TRANSLATION: I have no reply, except to fake, bluster, and call names.

 

[Darkwind]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

 

[LoneLaugher]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

Nope. None of that is accurate. Would you like to try again?

 

[Little-Acorn]

Nope. None of that is accurate. Would you like to try again?

TRANSLATION: I can't refute any of it. So I'll clap my hands over my ears, squeeze my eyes shut real tight, and walk around chanting "LA LA LA LA LA, NO IT ISN'T, NO IT ISN'T, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LA LA LA LA LA...." and pretend I made some kind of useful reply.

 

[occupied]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

 

[Little-Acorn]

In a speech this morning about the signing of the deal, Iranian President Rouhani boasted about taking the U.S. to the cleaners, forcing the Americans to back down on condition after condition:

Iran s president touts gains made by his country in final nuclear deal Jewish Telegraphic Agency

“Today is the end of oppressive sanctions. The chain of sanctions is broken,” Rouhani said Tuesday in an address to the nation after the announcement of the final deal. “Honorable Iranian nationals, all sanctions, including on missiles, will be lifted on days of implementation. Not suspended, lifted.
“At first they wanted us to have 100 centrifuges; now we will have 6,000. They wanted restrictions of 25 years; now it’s 8. Fordo had to be closed; now we will have 1,000 centrifuges there,” he said. . . .
Rouhani also pointed out that the heavy water nuclear plant at Arak will continue operating, and that advanced centrifuges also will remain operational. . . . "

Who can blame the man for being proud of making complete fools of the bumbling, publicity-hungry American administration?

 

[bendog]

Iran is giving up centrifuges, and even assuming it wants a bomb, it'll be years before they have the enriched uranium. But, the basic question is whether we are better off with this deal or better off with nothing, and no international sanctions, including Russia selling them arms tomorrow, rather than not for five years.

 

[LoneLaugher]

German FM criticizes Israel s opposition to Iran nuclear deal - World - Haaretz Daily Newspaper Israel News

 

[Little-Acorn]

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system?

We had that all along. And Iran has been making rapid progress in its nuclear development, breaking agreements right and left, and laughing all the way to the bank (or to Ground Zero).

Did somebody say "We are powerless"?

 

[MACAULAY]

A thread on this already exists.

That takes care of the inevitable attempts by leftists to prevent discussion.

Back to the subject:
The Koran, of course, urges its followers to lie and deceive its enemies - infidels who oppose what Islamic people want to do.

After decades of their doing exactly that, how big a boob do you have to be to now believe Iran will stick to its promises "this time"?

_____________________________________

Obama only has to believe that Iran will behave through the next American election.

It is important to remember that all Obama and his Chicago Politicians think about is The Next Election.

Iran is going to cheat. Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon---just not on his watch. That's what matters to him.

And it is in the interest of Iran to behave...they want Mrs. Clinton in office to continue the foolishness and incompetency that they have preyed upon so far.

Obama says he got us 10 years...but he's a liar and he's really hoping for just 2.

But, even if its 10 years, that's not long when you have children.

His legacy is to be remembered as the chicken shit who let Muslim Iran get a nuclear bomb (and maybe a dirty bomb for New York or Washington).

Rather than show the stones to tackle a really tough problem like Iran without a nuclear weapon, he is going to shove it off on someone else to face them with a nuclear weapon.

 

[LoneLaugher]

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system?

We had that all along. And Iran has been making rapid progress in its nuclear development, breaking agreements right and left, and laughing all the way to the bank (or to Ground Zero).

Did somebody say "We are powerless"?

Dumbass......

What would YOU like to see happen instead of this deal?

 

[LoneLaugher]

A thread on this already exists.

That takes care of the inevitable attempts by leftists to prevent discussion.

Back to the subject:
The Koran, of course, urges its followers to lie and deceive its enemies - infidels who oppose what Islamic people want to do.

After decades of their doing exactly that, how big a boob do you have to be to now believe Iran will stick to its promises "this time"?

_____________________________________

Obama only has to believe that Iran will behave through the next American election.

It is important to remember that all Obama and his Chicago Politicians think about is The Next Election.

Iran is going to cheat. Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon---just not on his watch. That's what matters to him.

And it in in the interest of Iran to behave...they want Mrs. Clinton in office to continue the foolishness and incompetency that they have preyed upon so far.

Obama says he got us 10 years...but he's a liar and he's really hoping for just 2.

But, even if its 10 years, that's not long when you have children.

His legacy is to be remembered as the chicken shit who let Muslim Iran get a nuclear bomb (and maybe a dirty bomb for New York or Washington).

Rather than show the stones to tackle a really tough problem like Iran without a nuclear weapon, he is going to shove it off on someone else to face them with a nuclear weapon.

Bullshit.

 

[bendog]

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system?

We had that all along. And Iran has been making rapid progress in its nuclear development, breaking agreements right and left, and laughing all the way to the bank (or to Ground Zero).

Did somebody say "We are powerless"?

Dumbass......

What would YOU like to see happen instead of this deal?

You already know the answer to this. Acorn wants to bomb Tehran.