U.S. Response to Chemical Weapons Attack In Syria.

[coolzone]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

 

[JQPublic1]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

 

[coolzone]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Why would you ask that. Did I say anything that you think is untrue? But to answer your question. I am a White American. And I come from a long line of Americans.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Why would you ask that. Did I say anything that you think is untrue? But to answer your question. I am a White American. And I come from a long line of Americans.

Dont mind the commie.....

 

[Tilly]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

 

[eagle1462010]

Iraq let them go..........the rest is a bloody history.

 

[eagle1462010]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

I can give you the answer in 100 pages. Any other answer would be a waste of time. If you think you are up to it, download the book you will find at this link. filehosting.org | Download | THE TRUTH, UNFORBIDDEN!.pdf

Your pushing that book on the wrong thread...............I don't download stuff that people push........might be a dang virus producing download.

 

[JQPublic1]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

Please stay relevant....Are you and the op Russian hackesr/agents acting as apologists for Assad?

 

[Tilly]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

Please stay relevant....Are you a Russian hacker/agentacting as an apologist for Assad?

Are you a Russiaphobe???

 

[usmbguest5318]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas!

Oh, lord! Yet another new member whose reasoning and argumentation skills are dreadful....

Two wrongs don't make right, not ethically and certainly not logically.

• Two Wrongs : Department of Philosophy : Texas State University
  
• Logical Fallacy: Two Wrongs Make a Right
  
• Two wrongs make a right - RationalWiki
  
• TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[JQPublic1]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

Please stay relevant....Are you a Russian hacker/agentacting as an apologist for Assad?

Are you a Russiaphobe???

These days, considering the cyber warfare revelations recently disclosed, i think we might all be wise to be a bit more sttentive.
Raised awareness of Russian instigating more accurately describes my Russia phobia.
.

 

[Tilly]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

Please stay relevant....Are you a Russian hacker/agentacting as an apologist for Assad?

Are you a Russiaphobe???

These days, considering the cyber warfare revelations recently disclosed, i think we might all be wise to be a bit more sttentive.
Raised awareness of Russian instigating more accurately describes my Russia phobia.
.

Actually you are just displaying your bigotry and phobias. Nothing new here.

 

[JQPublic1]

Are you Russian?

Are you a bigot?

Please stay relevant....Are you a Russian hacker/agentacting as an apologist for Assad?

Are you a Russiaphobe???

These days, considering the cyber warfare revelations recently disclosed, i think we might all be wise to be a bit more sttentive.
Raised awareness of Russian instigating more accurately describes my Russia phobia.
.

Actually you are just displaying your bigotry and phobias. Nothing new here.

One woman's opinion...now move along...

 

[Tilly]

Are you a bigot?

Please stay relevant....Are you a Russian hacker/agentacting as an apologist for Assad?

Are you a Russiaphobe???

These days, considering the cyber warfare revelations recently disclosed, i think we might all be wise to be a bit more sttentive.
Raised awareness of Russian instigating more accurately describes my Russia phobia.
.

Actually you are just displaying your bigotry and phobias. Nothing new here.

One woman's opinion...now move along...

Misogynist too?
Can’t say I’m surprised.
Lol.

 

[usmbguest5318]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!

There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

1. The rebels aren't going to ask for that because what they want is Assad gone.
2. The U.S.' interest in Syria, despite the fact that it's not in the forefront of the news, is the prospect of getting Russia out of it and thus, most importantly, out of the Mediterranean. Without its base in Syria, a base it can maintain because of its alliance with Assad, this is how Russia would have to get its navy to the Eastern Mediterranean and Middle East (via the Suez):
   
   
   
   
   
   Absent Syria, here are Russia's naval ports:
   
   
   
   
   
   Contrast that with the U.S. navy bases and/or allied based around the Mediterranean:
   
   

Russia is fighting in Syria to retain its presence on the Mediterranean. They'd happily leave Assad to his own fate were they to receive assurances from the rebels that Russia could keep it's naval operations in Syria. Russia doesn't "like" Assad; it likes that he's letting them maintain and expand their military presence there.

As for the civil war between Assad and the Rebels, well, that is what it is -- a civil war. The U.S., Russia and others can take whatever moral high ground they want/will, but the domestic grievances that catalyzed the civil war are merely rhetorical/political foils and feints. Massacred his own people, used chemical weapons, ISIS is there or not...those all are merely distractions from the real deal that concerns the U.S. and Russia.

The real battle there is the one pertaining to the Middle East's balance of power. One need only look at a map to see it.

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And looking at what is at stake for Russia should Assad fall and the U.S. backed rebels prevail, it becomes clear why Putin wants to foment political unrest among the American polity:

• Putin wanted Trump to win because Trump's an utter novice who lies at the drop of a hat about anything and who's riven with nationalism, emotionalism, populism and race-based stupid-shit that Trump has no better sense than to air publicly, thereby making it clear to everyone -- most importantly U.S. allies -- that they cannot follow Trump's lead or rely on what he says.
• Putin's disinformation campaign created an atmosphere of discord in the U.S. and produced a POTUS who, unlike any of the alternatives (Dem or Rep) is (1) clueless, (2) won't listen to the sage advice of people who have a clue, and (3) surrounds himself mostly with advisors who are every bit as clueless as he is.
• Putin managed to create in the U.S. enough discord that Trump's ability (politically) to do much is hamstrung by the doubts about his intellect and integrity.

 

[eagle1462010]

Russia can get to the Med via the Black Sea...........but it has a major choke point near Turkey..........In a War their fleet in the Black Sea can be choked off with no access to the Med...............

Russia wants the Ukraine because of it's ports on the Black Sea..............Ukraine is strategic to them just as Syria is also.

Black Sea Fleet - Wikipedia
The Black Sea Fleet's official primary headquarters and facilities are located in the city of Sevastopol, which is de jure part of Ukraine but de facto part of Russia (see Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation). The remainder of the fleet's facilities are based in various locations on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, including Krasnodar Krai, Rostov Oblast and Crimea. The current commander is Admiral Aleksandr Viktorovich Vitko, who has held the position since April 2013.

 

[eagle1462010]

Russian ship passing through Istanbul

 

[frigidweirdo]

The first thing the U.S. should do before launching missiles is to see if it even happened! But here's the thing. The U.S. shouldn't do anything to begin with! Also, it is said that the Assad regime used chlorine gas. What the U.S. should do is send them some VX gas! There are those out there who would say that the rebels are worthless scum anyway for fighting then hiding behind their women and children. And deserve to be gassed!
There is one simple solution for the rebels over there. Ask the Assad regime for an amnesty. (Overseen by the U.N.) In exchange for ending their rebellion. But that solution wouldn't make American arms dealers very much money. And we would lose a big distraction to other more important problems.

The biggest problem is this: Russia doesn't work on those rules.

So, chemical attack in the UK. The UK can't PROVE Russia did it.
Polonium attack on Litvinenko in the UK. The UK can't PROVE Russia did it.
Shooting down of Malaysian Airlines flight over the Ukraine. The Dutch can't PROVE Russia did it.
Chemical attacks in Syria, the US can't PROVE that Syria did it or that Russia provided the chemicals.

Russia's not going to admit to these thing. Each time Russia comes out with "it could have been someone else."

Russia came out with a statement that the Novichok from some random Russian saying it could have been Porton Down.

This Russian diplomat's suggesting the spy attack nerve agent came from a UK lab

"
Russian ambassador suggests BRITISH lab Porton Down could be source of spy attack nerve agent as diplomatic row escalates"

Russian Diplomat Says Reaction at UK’s Porton Down Proves It Develops Toxic Chemicals

"
Russian Diplomat Says Reaction at UK’s Porton Down Proves It Develops Toxic Chemicals"

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Russia basically came out and said Porton Down COULD HAVE done it. Potentially to see what Porton Down was capable of, because it seems they don't actually know.

Then they've looked at the reaction and pushed the issue a little more.

Russia gloats after Porton Down says it can’t pin down nerve agent source

"UK officials said the idea was “perverse” and an attempt to spread “disinformation” about the poisoning."

Well, totally.

The Malaysian Airliner shot down shows similar tactics.

Could have been, might have been etc etc.


Это был «Бук-М1»

"Even a superficial analysis of the conditions of the meeting of a rocket with an airplane (at the maximum possible angles of crossing the course) shows that when the rocket was fired from any point in the Snezhnoe area, only the nose of the aircraft would be hit by the striking elements, and there could be no damage to the wing, engine, and so more stabilizer and tail unit."

Different people leak different info. The Russians make mistakes, but they know that nothing can be proven.

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17: Russia Lied, Faked Photos To Blame Ukraine For Shootdown, Study Finds

Russia provided a fake photo to show relevant missiles in Ukrainian territory.

There was also a photo from above, claiming to be the airplane and a missile, but was clearly from Google Maps at a completely different time.

It's what Russia does.

You're never going to PROVE these things because Russia is very good at making sure proof is never available. Countries can do such things, especially one whose leader was KGB.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Russia can get to the Med via the Black Sea...........but it has a major choke point near Turkey..........In a War their fleet in the Black Sea can be choked off with no access to the Med...............

Russia wants the Ukraine because of it's ports on the Black Sea..............Ukraine is strategic to them just as Syria is also.

Black Sea Fleet - Wikipedia
The Black Sea Fleet's official primary headquarters and facilities are located in the city of Sevastopol, which is de jure part of Ukraine but de facto part of Russia (see Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation). The remainder of the fleet's facilities are based in various locations on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, including Krasnodar Krai, Rostov Oblast and Crimea. The current commander is Admiral Aleksandr Viktorovich Vitko, who has held the position since April 2013.

Russia can get to the Med via the Black Sea...........but it has a major choke point near Turkey..........In a War their fleet in the Black Sea can be choked off with no access to the Med...............

Russia wants the Ukraine because of it's ports on the Black Sea..............Ukraine is strategic to them just as Syria is also.

Okay.....But this thread is about Syria and the conflict taking place there. Is there some connection you have in mind to make between the Ukraine, the Black Sea and the conflict in Syria? I'm certainly interested to know what be the correlation you think extant for I really don't know what it might be.

 

[eagle1462010]

Russia can get to the Med via the Black Sea...........but it has a major choke point near Turkey..........In a War their fleet in the Black Sea can be choked off with no access to the Med...............

Russia wants the Ukraine because of it's ports on the Black Sea..............Ukraine is strategic to them just as Syria is also.

Black Sea Fleet - Wikipedia
The Black Sea Fleet's official primary headquarters and facilities are located in the city of Sevastopol, which is de jure part of Ukraine but de facto part of Russia (see Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation). The remainder of the fleet's facilities are based in various locations on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, including Krasnodar Krai, Rostov Oblast and Crimea. The current commander is Admiral Aleksandr Viktorovich Vitko, who has held the position since April 2013.

Russia can get to the Med via the Black Sea...........but it has a major choke point near Turkey..........In a War their fleet in the Black Sea can be choked off with no access to the Med...............

Russia wants the Ukraine because of it's ports on the Black Sea..............Ukraine is strategic to them just as Syria is also.

Okay.....But this thread is about Syria and the conflict taking place there. Is there some connection you have in mind to make between the Ukraine, the Black Sea and the conflict in Syria? I'm certainly interested to know what be the correlation you think extant for I really don't know what it might be.

Cutting off Strategic Naval Base against Russia. Ukraine is also Strategic to the Russians. It is about Warm Water Ports and access to the Med, a place where NATO has a distinct advantage.