U.N. rights investigator accuses Israel of 'ethnic cleansing'

[montelatici]

You deal in facts? Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Thanks for the laughs, el socko!

Ciao Bozo, name one thing I have stated that is not a fact.

Your last post was BS - not fact.

Really, and what was not fact?

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Well, I'm actually not sure what is meant by this.

But in the I/P discussion there is only one fact, Christians and Muslims of Palestine are an occupied people, I don't think this fact can be disputed. Not even by you.

(COMMENT)

The territory is "occupied." Currently, the people within the "occupied Palestinian territory" (oPt) can be categorized in any number of ways. Clearly some will be "Christians and Muslims."

Q: What does it mean when you say "Christians and Muslims of Palestine?"

• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in the oPt?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in Palestine as defined by the Palestinian National Charter or the HAMAS Covenant?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims of Palestine as defined as citizens of the 1988 State of Palestine?

Q: What distinction is implied between Christians and Muslims of Palestine and other religious or ethnic affiliations?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Well, I'm actually not sure what is meant by this.

But in the I/P discussion there is only one fact, Christians and Muslims of Palestine are an occupied people, I don't think this fact can be disputed. Not even by you.

(COMMENT)

The territory is "occupied." Currently, the people within the "occupied Palestinian territory" (oPt) can be categorized in any number of ways. Clearly some will be "Christians and Muslims."

Q: What does it mean when you say "Christians and Muslims of Palestine?"

• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in the oPt?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in Palestine as defined by the Palestinian National Charter or the HAMAS Covenant?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims of Palestine as defined as citizens of the 1988 State of Palestine?

Q: What distinction is implied between Christians and Muslims of Palestine and other religious or ethnic affiliations?

Most Respectfully,
R

Does it really matter? Legally, it is the people and territory controlled by the occupier. If the occupier controls the land borders, air space and territorial waters it is occupied territory. In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Jew and non-Jew or as the Jews call us, "goy". With a name like Rocco, I suspect you are also a "goy".

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Let's see!

Does it really matter? Legally, it is the people and territory controlled by the occupier. If the occupier controls the land borders, air space and territorial waters it is occupied territory. In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Jew and non-Jew or as the Jews call us, "goy". With a name like Rocco, I suspect you are also a "goy".

(COMMENT)

First, let's make one minor correction here. What I think you meant to say is:

• In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Israeli and non-Israel. (Not all Israelis are Jewish. Thus the term "goy" doesn't enter into the equation. BTW: When I was growing-up, I was called a D'ego.)

----- VERSUS -----​

• In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Jew and non-Jew or as the Jews call us, "goy".

Second, the "controls the land borders, air space and territorial waters" is a common sense, reasonable application of security in depth of countermeasure to mitigate the attempts by Hostile Arab Palestinians from executing acts of terrorism against the State of Israel and its interests. The justification for these countermeasures is a well established past history of criminal behaviors by Palestinian Jihadist, Fedayeen and other sociopathic terrorist associates; which can be collectively described as Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MHunterB]

montelatici, et al,

Well, I'm actually not sure what is meant by this.

But in the I/P discussion there is only one fact, Christians and Muslims of Palestine are an occupied people, I don't think this fact can be disputed. Not even by you.

(COMMENT)

The territory is "occupied." Currently, the people within the "occupied Palestinian territory" (oPt) can be categorized in any number of ways. Clearly some will be "Christians and Muslims."

Q: What does it mean when you say "Christians and Muslims of Palestine?"

• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in the oPt?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in Palestine as defined by the Palestinian National Charter or the HAMAS Covenant?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims of Palestine as defined as citizens of the 1988 State of Palestine?

Q: What distinction is implied between Christians and Muslims of Palestine and other religious or ethnic affiliations?

Most Respectfully,
R

Does it really matter? Legally, it is the people and territory controlled by the occupier. If the occupier controls the land borders, air space and territorial waters it is occupied territory. In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Jew and non-Jew or as the Jews call us, "goy". With a name like Rocco, I suspect you are also a "goy".

Yes, it really DOES matter.

Incidentally, here is a song about 'goys': [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWloTpK2bzs]Lo Yisa Goy - YouTube[/ame]

The text is in the Torah twice: Isaiah 2:4 and Micah 4:3

 

[Billo_Really]

Your last post was BS - not fact.

His last post was a question, not a statement.

So the "BS" comment, doesn't even apply.

 

[Roudy]

If I see anything he/she writes that I find untrue, I will comment. As I have said, I deal in facts, not propaganda.

You deal in facts? Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Thanks for the laughs, el socko!

Ciao Bozo, name one thing I have stated that is not a fact.

The legend in his own mind keeps outdoing himself!

Actually, I don't recall a single thing you've said that was factual. All you have is regurgitated Islamist propaganda. Why is that not so surprising?

 

[Roudy]

montelatici, et al,

Let's see!

Does it really matter? Legally, it is the people and territory controlled by the occupier. If the occupier controls the land borders, air space and territorial waters it is occupied territory. In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Jew and non-Jew or as the Jews call us, "goy". With a name like Rocco, I suspect you are also a "goy".

(COMMENT)

First, let's make one minor correction here. What I think you meant to say is:

• In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Israeli and non-Israel. (Not all Israelis are Jewish. Thus the term "goy" doesn't enter into the equation. BTW: When I was growing-up, I was called a D'ego.)

----- VERSUS -----​

• In this case the distinction between the occupier and the occupied is more accurately denominated as Jew and non-Jew or as the Jews call us, "goy".

Second, the "controls the land borders, air space and territorial waters" is a common sense, reasonable application of security in depth of countermeasure to mitigate the attempts by Hostile Arab Palestinians from executing acts of terrorism against the State of Israel and its interests. The justification for these countermeasures is a well established past history of criminal behaviors by Palestinian Jihadist, Fedayeen and other sociopathic terrorist associates; which can be collectively described as Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP).

Most Respectfully,
R

Yup, now THAT'S a fact, JACK.

 

[Roudy]

montelatici, et al,

Well, I'm actually not sure what is meant by this.

But in the I/P discussion there is only one fact, Christians and Muslims of Palestine are an occupied people, I don't think this fact can be disputed. Not even by you.

(COMMENT)

The territory is "occupied." Currently, the people within the "occupied Palestinian territory" (oPt) can be categorized in any number of ways. Clearly some will be "Christians and Muslims."

Q: What does it mean when you say "Christians and Muslims of Palestine?"

• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in the oPt?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims in Palestine as defined by the Palestinian National Charter or the HAMAS Covenant?
• Are you speaking of Christians and Muslims of Palestine as defined as citizens of the 1988 State of Palestine?

Q: What distinction is implied between Christians and Muslims of Palestine and other religious or ethnic affiliations?

Most Respectfully,
R

Well to add to that there are practically no Christians left in Gaza. After all, which sane Christian wants to be live in an area ruled by a gang of Islamic thugs aka Hamas animals?

 

[Roudy]

Oh no, Richard Falk has been replaced by what appears another antisemite. From her name she appears to be an Indian woman, probably Hindu. Darn, these pesky antisemites are everywhere.

By Robert Evans | Reuters
Tuesday, 25 March 2014
The building of Israeli settlements and attacks by settlers on Palestinians are a major source of much abuse of rights in the occupied territories, the United Nations’ top human rights official said on Monday.

Human Rights High Commissioner Navi Pillay also expressed concern at a recent surge in violence in and around the Gaza Strip by both local groups and Israeli forces.

“Israeli settlement-related activities and settler violence are at the core of many of the violations of human rights in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem,” she told the U.N.'s 47-nation Human Rights Council in Geneva.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/CP/2014/03/25/U-N-rights-chief-hits-Israel-over-settlements

Do you guys ever have anybody to quote other than known anti Semites and retards that make a career out of writing for Muslim sites?

 

[Roudy]

Fuck Richard Falk, and here's why, not only is he an anti Semetic pig, but also a conspiracy nutjob:

US slams Richard Falk's 'despicable and deeply offensive comments'

State Department says UN special rapporteur's claims that Israel is "genocidal" represent "a new low."

“We do not support his mandate or his work, which has been one-sided and biased, nor do we believe he should continue to serve as independent UN rapporteur, and we reiterate our calls for him to step down from this role,” US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters on Friday.

Psaki spoke in response to a reporter question about a statement Falk made on December 15, during a brief appearance on Russia’s English television news program RT.

“The Administration has repeatedly condemned in the strongest terms his despicable and deeply offensive comments, particularly his anti-Semitic blog postings, his endorsement of 9/11 conspiracy theories, and more recently, his deplorable statements with regard to the terrorist attacks in Boston,” said

Last week, Canada’s Foreign Minister John Baird called for Falk’s dismissal. The Geneva based non-governmental group UN Watch has also called for Falk’s removal in a letter it wrote both to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and US ambassador to the UN in New York Samantha Powers.

 

[Phoenall]

falk is a noxious anti-semite….

Figures you'd love him.

the united states welcomed the imminent departure of richard falk, a un human rights investigator for the palestinian territories whom washington accused of being biased against israel and spreading conspiracy theories about the september 11, 2001 attacks.
Falk, the outgoing united nations special rapporteur on human rights in the palestinian territories, told a news conference as recently as last week that israeli policies bore “unacceptable characteristics of colonialism, apartheid and ethnic cleansing.
In a statement to reuters, u.s. Ambassador to the united nations samantha power condemned what she described as “falk’s relentless anti-israeli bias, his noxious and outrageous perpetuation of 9/11 conspiracy theories.”


read more: richard falk, 'noxious' critic of israel, leaving u.n. Post ? Forward.com

honestly don't know mr. Falks works...i'm told that he is similar in me positions as prof. Chomsky, do you consider him an anti-semite?

yes.................

 

[Phoenall]

sorry to the rest about the shout but I was pi$$ed off.

We all get that way with blinkered brainwashed fools, so you are excused

 

[Phoenall]

Don't see Palestine in those links. Are you just lying for fun.

I don't need to be insulted after getting you the information. Thank you is what you should have said instead of calling me a liar. I did not have to give you the links, I did it out of curtsey, so you could be better informed.

So, you are claiming that the Palestinian Authority is forcing non-Muslims to pay a tax for not being Muslim? The fact that Israel collects the taxes makes your claim more than absurd.

Not the jizya which is collected in person, and many non muslims face beatings and violence when they hand over the money. The muslims want them to retaliate so they have an excuse to beat them to death and rape their females.

 

[Phoenall]

So, you are claiming that the Palestinian Authority is forcing non-Muslims to pay a tax for not being Muslim? The fact that Israel collects the taxes makes your claim more than absurd.

Hamas MP: We must massacre Jews, make the rest pay the jizya.
You should have gone to the sites given.

Again, what does that have to do with the Palestinian Authority?

He is speaking as an elected member of the P.A so it has everything to do with them. Or don't you understand about hamas being the actual P.A. according to your Palestinian friends on here.

 

[Phoenall]

So, you are claiming that the Palestinian Authority is forcing non-Muslims to pay a tax for not being Muslim? The fact that Israel collects the taxes makes your claim more than absurd.

Palestinian Neanderthals call for the genocide of a Jews and total destruction of the Israel all the time. It's their idea of "peace" or should I say "piece".

This is a prime example of the unusual nature of this site. Calling Palestinians (or any other people) "Neanderthals" would be considered a racist comment on most sites.

Calling Jews Zionists in the manner you do is also racist, so any comment on your racism and ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED

 

[Phoenall]

Can you link some evidence that the Palestinians charge a Jizya to non Muslims or are you lying again like you did for Falk?

Now lets start from the beginning shall we.

1) WHY DO YOU LIE ABOUT WHAT I POST WHEN YOU HAVE LINKED THE WORDS I did not mention Palestinians, you slipped that in to make yourself look big

2) I have provided the evidence, not my fault you are incapable of understanding the English Language

3) here is the evidence of jizya tax from a source you use quite often

Jizya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Islamic law, jizya or jizyah (Arabic: جزية* ǧizyah IPA: [dʒizja]; Ottoman Turkish: cizye is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria. The tax is and was to be levied on able-bodied adult males of military age and affording power[1] (but with specific exemptions).[2][3] From the point of view of the Muslim rulers, jizya was a material proof of the non-Muslims' acceptance of subjection to the state and its laws, "just as for the inhabitants it was a concrete continuation of the taxes paid to earlier regimes."[4] In return, non-Muslim citizens were permitted to practice their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to the Muslim state's protection from outside aggression, and to be exempted from military service and the zakat taxes obligatory upon Muslim citizens.

And evidence that it is still in force today

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In 2009 it was claimed that a group of militants that referred to themselves as the Taliban imposed the jizya on Pakistan's minority Sikh community after occupying some of their homes and kidnapping a Sikh leader.[117]

In 2014, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) announced that it intended to extract jizya from Christians in the city of Raqqa, Syria, which it controls. Christians who refused to pay the tax would have to either convert to Islam or die. Wealthy Christians would have to pay the equivalent of $664 twice a year; poorer ones would be charged one-fourth that amount. [118]

This is the Israeli Palestinian thread Kooky, Stop trying to demonize people by applying misinformation by omission of the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, liar.

You asked for evidence and you got evidence of the jizya tax, not my problem that you don't like the truth being shown and that your arguments are destroyed every time you post.

This can be clearly seen by the way you use personal insults and obfuscating and deflecting away from the truth.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh no, Richard Falk has been replaced by what appears another antisemite. From her name she appears to be an Indian woman, probably Hindu. Darn, these pesky antisemites are everywhere.

By Robert Evans | Reuters
Tuesday, 25 March 2014
The building of Israeli settlements and attacks by settlers on Palestinians are a major source of much abuse of rights in the occupied territories, the United Nations’ top human rights official said on Monday.

Human Rights High Commissioner Navi Pillay also expressed concern at a recent surge in violence in and around the Gaza Strip by both local groups and Israeli forces.

“Israeli settlement-related activities and settler violence are at the core of many of the violations of human rights in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem,” she told the U.N.'s 47-nation Human Rights Council in Geneva.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/CP/2014/03/25/U-N-rights-chief-hits-Israel-over-settlements

Silly boy if you read this board you would see that she is not Falks successor at all, she has held that posts since 24 July 2008 .

Now on to your link hardly unbiased and neutral being an Islamic sourced and funded site. But I wonder how many of those incidents originate from Palestinian terrorism ?

 

[Phoenall]

Oh no, Richard Falk has been replaced by what appears another antisemite. From her name she appears to be an Indian woman, probably Hindu. Darn, these pesky antisemites are everywhere.

By Robert Evans | Reuters
Tuesday, 25 March 2014
The building of Israeli settlements and attacks by settlers on Palestinians are a major source of much abuse of rights in the occupied territories, the United Nations’ top human rights official said on Monday.

Human Rights High Commissioner Navi Pillay also expressed concern at a recent surge in violence in and around the Gaza Strip by both local groups and Israeli forces.

“Israeli settlement-related activities and settler violence are at the core of many of the violations of human rights in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem,” she told the U.N.'s 47-nation Human Rights Council in Geneva.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/CP/2014/03/25/U-N-rights-chief-hits-Israel-over-settlements

According to our local ZioNuts, anyone who speaks ill of Israel is an anti-Semite....According to a BBC World Poll that would include 99% of the known world.

How about a link to your allegations then, lest see which ISLAMONAZI site has misrepresented the facts, Oh and for the record the BBC is a known and proven ANTISEMITIC JEW HATRED organistaion.

 

[Phoenall]

This is a prime example of the unusual nature of this site. Calling Palestinians (or any other people) "Neanderthals" would be considered a racist comment on most sites.

He didn't say all of them were neanderthals. He was obviously referring to the ones that are.
And 'Palestinians' aren't a race..

Ahh, he meant just a few of these Palestinians. Well, it's ok then. Well, let's change "racism" to religious discrimination. How is that.

What religion are we talking here ?