Were you closer to the North Tower than William Rodriguez?I'm a NYer. I saw the World Trade Center collapse from 2 blocks away, and there were no explosions.
No matter what your "friends" saw.
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Were you closer to the North Tower than William Rodriguez?I'm a NYer. I saw the World Trade Center collapse from 2 blocks away, and there were no explosions.
No matter what your "friends" saw.
there are at least 3 or 4 images on that page, if you are referring to the one at the top, it doesn't even say where its fromRepublic Magazine Vol. 16 P,24link to the actual photo and not a PDF fileFEMA found this heavy steel flange in WTC7's rubble pile which displayed "evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including rapid oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting..."
or at least give page reference
since he was INSIDE and in the basement, 90% of his story is bullshitWere you closer to the North Tower than William Rodriguez?I'm a NYer. I saw the World Trade Center collapse from 2 blocks away, and there were no explosions.
No matter what your "friends" saw.
My mistake.Are you saying the interior surface of the left plate along with the exterior surfaces of the top and right plates are visible in this photo?And this George?
You seem to believe that thermite was used on that column. So tell me how thermite created the above scenario?
This is the second time I've asked you this simple question.
This was NOT the second time I posted the question.
It WAS the first.
Now tell me if the interior of the left plate along with the exterior surfaces of the top and right plates are visible in this photo?
I don't know what type of thermite cutting was used.BTW Georg, you STILL haven'tt addressed this post:
Can you quote me the first time you asked this? I seem to have missed it.
Now follow closely and please answer the questions pertaining to what you believe the photo shows.
1. What type of thermite cutting was used based on the photo above? Was it a cutting charge or did it "burn through" the steel?
2. If it was a cutting charge, there would not be grooves oriented 45 degrees to the face of the plate as shown in this marked up photo here using red lines. The force of the charge would have made lines PERPENDICULAR lines (if any) to the face as that would have been the direction the force of the charge would have gone.
3. If you claim a thermite "burn through" process was employed then why is there no slag on the outside face on the left plate, but there is slag on the outside face of the bottom plate? If you are trying to tell me that the slag appears on the opposite face of where the thermite "burn through" process was started, then how did the slag get on the outside face of the bottom plate? You're not being consistent.
I'm also still waiting for you to quote the first time you asked me the "simple question" you mentioned above. Where is that question anyways? I may have missed it.
Perhaps Dick or Dubya could shed light on that question also?
When you make the statement "If it was a cutting charge, there would not be grooves oriented 45 degrees to the face of the plate...The force of the charge would have made line PERPENDICULAR to the face...you need to supply a credible source for your opinion as you did with Flames and Temps on page 32; post #472.
I'm also waiting for your observations of visible slag on the interior of the left plate and exteriors of the top and right plates in your photo?
3. A free-fall drop of 2.25 seconds officially acknowledged.
3. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 feet at 50mph.
4. Mid air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete.
Were you closer to the North Tower than William Rodriguez?I'm a NYer. I saw the World Trade Center collapse from 2 blocks away, and there were no explosions.
No matter what your "friends" saw.
How many of those 3 or 4 images look like Swiss cheese?there are at least 3 or 4 images on that page, if you are referring to the one at the top, it doesn't even say where its fromRepublic Magazine Vol. 16 P,24link to the actual photo and not a PDF file
or at least give page reference
an d i saw a load of total fucking bullshit in that PDF from that fucking moronic asshole Alex Jones
you want some credibility, dont use anything connected to THAT asshole
According to David Chandler's calculations the 2.25 seconds of free fall covered a distance of approximately 8 stories.3. A free-fall drop of 2.25 seconds officially acknowledged.
Hold on a second George.
You say the roof-line took 6.5 seconds to collapse, yet freefall happened for only 2.23 seconds of it.
What happened that it didn't free-fall the ENTIRE 6.5 seconds???
Least resistance, right George? So what resisted the other 4+ seconds, if all the beams and connections were cut?
According to David Chandler's calculations the 2.25 seconds of free fall covered a distance of approximately 8 stories.3. A free-fall drop of 2.25 seconds officially acknowledged.
Hold on a second George.
You say the roof-line took 6.5 seconds to collapse, yet freefall happened for only 2.23 seconds of it.
What happened that it didn't free-fall the ENTIRE 6.5 seconds???
Least resistance, right George? So what resisted the other 4+ seconds, if all the beams and connections were cut?
The destruction of the remaining 39 floors were slowed by 40,000 tons of structural steel and 90,000 tons of concrete not to mention the gypsum planking, drop ceiling tiles and fire proofing.
Do you think there's any connection between the collapse of the mechanical penthouse and those eight stories of free fall?
Steven Jones said:A number of FGs straw-man arguments were also identified and dispelled. On May 11, 2009, I wrote to FG: Nor is your conflation of "thermate" with "nanothermite" valid. Nor did I EVER write or say that thermate alone would suffice to bring down the Towers, but rather wrote that explosives would be needed (in addition).
During the discussion, I briefly expressed my hypothesis that nanothermite served as an igniting agent, as in the super-thermite matches described in our paper, to ignite more conventional explosives such as C4 or HMX, in the destruction of the WTC buildings. Thermate (sulfur plus thermite and possibly the form thermate-TH-3) was ALSO in evidence and probably intended to weaken critical steel members (e.g., residue/ material flowing with orange glow from the So. Tower just minutes before its collapse and the sulfidation of WTC steel reported in the FEMA report but ignored by NIST). Thermite incendiary without sulfur is not in evidence at the WTC to date.
But sulfur is NOT needed for the function of explosive nanothermite and would not be expected to appear in the red/gray chips. Reliable and robust super- or nano-thermite ignitors would each be ignited by an electrical pulse generated by a radio-receiver, in turn igniting shaped charges to cut steel, the sequence beginning near where the planes went in for the Towers and computer-controlled, so that the destruction wave would proceed via explosives in top-down sequence. Thus, this was no conventional (bottom first) controlled demolition, agreeing on this with B. Blanchard, but I never claimed it was! (For the Towers; the demolition of WTC7 appears to be bottom-first and more conventional.) The top-down destruction of the Towers in this model would doubtless require more explosives than would a conventional controlled demolition. Thermate (an incendiary, not an explosive) is not the be all and end all explanation (FGs terminology), nor did I ever claim it was I have consistently pointed to evidence that explosives were used in bringing down the Towers.
I don't have an explanation for the lack of slag on the exterior of the left plate.My mistake.Are you saying the interior surface of the left plate along with the exterior surfaces of the top and right plates are visible in this photo?
This is the second time I've asked you this simple question.
This was NOT the second time I posted the question.
It WAS the first.
Now tell me if the interior of the left plate along with the exterior surfaces of the top and right plates are visible in this photo?
No they are not.
Now explain something to me. Why is there slag on the EXTERIOR of the bottom plate, but there is NO slag on the EXTERIOR of the left plate? Please explain.
its because it WASNT cut by thermite or a shape chargeI don't have an explanation for the lack of slag on the exterior of the left plate.My mistake.
This was NOT the second time I posted the question.
It WAS the first.
Now tell me if the interior of the left plate along with the exterior surfaces of the top and right plates are visible in this photo?
No they are not.
Now explain something to me. Why is there slag on the EXTERIOR of the bottom plate, but there is NO slag on the EXTERIOR of the left plate? Please explain.
if we had not already been through over 8 YEARS of dishonest troofers denying the facts, i would have supported a full and open investigationHow many of those responding regularly to this thread believe there is NO good reason for an INDEPENDENT investigation into the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001?
According to David Chandler's calculations the 2.25 seconds of free fall covered a distance of approximately 8 stories.Hold on a second George.
You say the roof-line took 6.5 seconds to collapse, yet freefall happened for only 2.23 seconds of it.
What happened that it didn't free-fall the ENTIRE 6.5 seconds???
Least resistance, right George? So what resisted the other 4+ seconds, if all the beams and connections were cut?
The destruction of the remaining 39 floors were slowed by 40,000 tons of structural steel and 90,000 tons of concrete not to mention the gypsum planking, drop ceiling tiles and fire proofing.
Do you think there's any connection between the collapse of the mechanical penthouse and those eight stories of free fall?
Are you saying that the only way to create free-fall is to cut the columns and beams completely and that failing steel columns/beams in a structure, due to loss of strength or thermal expansion caused by heat, cannot cause the same thing?
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