TWO bald face OBAMA LIES!

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    Obama said on 9/22/2011
    "To pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare, then you know what?
    I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm a warrior for the middle class. I'm happy to fight for the middle class,"
    Obama: I'm A Class Warrior | RealClearPolitics

    What is the tax rate for a plumber? 6.3%.
    That's what an average plumber paid making $50,000 in 2008 (see below...)

    What did 321,294 returns that earned over $1 million pay in taxes in 2008???
    On $1.068 trillion income after deductions these evil millionaires (Obama's one!! and billionaires") paid $249 billion --- 23%!!!

    Is 23% what "millionaires" paid MORE then 6.3% that plumbers paid?

    Just take some time and read below the FACTS.
    Just plain out and out LIE!!!

    Well according to this Obama Government web site :
    Plumbers, Pipefitters, and Steamfitters
    total plumbers: 358,790 and they make up work force: 1.2 %
    Plumbers mean hourly wage: $24.21
    Plumbers Mean annual wage $50,360
    According to the IRS:
    SOI Tax Stats - Individual Statistical Tables by Size of Adjusted Gross Income

    For adjusted gross income reported $40,000 under $50,000
    Total returns 11,087,123
    Total TAXABLE returns meaning they had to pay taxes: 9,308,560
    Average Adjusted taxable income: $28,465...(deductions,donations..etc...)
    Total TAXES PAID per return $2,832.26 or a TAXABLE RATE OF 6.3%

    Average plumber gross of $50,000 paid tax rate of 6.3%

    Obama one of those evil "MILLIONAIRES" 2010 TAX return!!!

    Obama's 2010 Tax return
    Adjusted gross income $1,728,096
    taking (LOOPHOLES,DEDUCTIONS bad bad evil!!!)
    Donations $245,075 14.18%
    Federal taxes paid $453,770 26.26% of gross income after

    Obama a Millionaire whining about "TAX loopholes for millionaires..(himself!)

    OBAMA took 14% deduction for donations
    and cut HIS tax bill to 26% of his income!

    Meanwhile he couldn't find enough money to send his brother that lives in a $12/yr hut!!!
     
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    Oh and as for "To pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare, then you know what?"
    Obama: I'm A Class Warrior | RealClearPolitics

    Total Elementary School Teachers, : 1,485,600
    Mean Annual Wage: $54,330
    :Plumbers, Pipefitters, and Steamfitters

    According to the IRS:
    SOI Tax Stats - Individual Statistical Tables by Size of Adjusted Gross Income

    19,196,461 returns with adjusted gross income between $50,000 under $75,000
    17,662,044 paid taxes Total TAXABLE returns meaning they had to pay taxes:
    Average Adjusted taxable income: $40,599 after deductions,donations..etc...

    Total TAXES PAID per return $4,826/40,599 =
    A TAXABLE RATE OF 11.89%

    And again.. those evil millionaires like OBAMA!!! paid average of 23%!

    I mean.. how can Obama get BY lying like this?
    "To pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare,"

    I think all those "millionaires and billionaires" SHOULD AGREE!
    They should pay ONLY 11.89% of their millions
    just like the teachers and like plumbers.. 6.3%

    There is absolutely NO defense anyone can come up with for the statement
    " pay the same tax rate as a plumber or teacher " that is so contradictory to reality! Millionaires like Obama averaged 23%.. Teachers 11.8% Plumbers 6.3%
    And this was suppose to be the "smartest" President and he thinks Americans are that DUMB that we don't know that 23% paid by millionaires is a higher percentage then teachers or plumbers pay?
     
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    It's not about raising taxes now any more than it was about lowering taxes back in 2003. It's about fair taxes.

    Simple taxes = Fair taxes.

    Fair taxes, a budget that is balanced by law and then build an economy your kids can drive to the stars.

    It ain't rocket science, y'all.

    The time to fix the current tax code has long past - it's time to scrap the fucker and start over.

    9% Sales tax on everything purchased for consumption.
    9% Personal Income tax - no deductions.
    9% Business income tax - payroll is only deduction.

    Simple, fair, predictable for the market.
     
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    so it is OK for a President to think YOU are so stupid you don't know that 23% is a higher tax rate the 6.3% (plumbers pay or 11.8% what teachers pay?

    Are you that naive that you aren't angry that a President of your country has such a low disregard for YOUR intelligence that YOU accept HIS LIE:
    "To pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare, "
    Don't you understand the magnitude of his "AUDACITY"?
    He thinks you are so stupid YOU don't know the difference BECAUSE HE SAID it was so!
     
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    Payroll as an only deduction would cripple already reeling manufacturing.
    Tax-free raw materials and tax-free when buying equipment and manufacturing consumables is an absolute MUST.
     
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    If my tax rate is so small, why do they keep taking out so much much money from my paycheck?

    Besides, if taxes were that low, they need to be raised. Our country needs to be repaired.

    So, which is it? Too low? or too high?
     
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    How about taxes period?
    Over half of all wage earners pay zero income taxes...and most of those get more back than they pay in.
    This is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than a paltry $49.5 billion a year for going after the "wealthy".
     
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    "Hello?"

    "Is this thing on?"


    Fuck that shit. Taxes should be fair, simple and predictable - see above for an example.

    We need to let go of government favoritism in the market via congressional approved 'tax deductions' coupled with ridiculously high rates and the corruption that inevitably ensues when congress steps outside the scope of the constitution to tax you differently from the way they tax me.

    Besides, spending Billion$ every year just to do the fucking paperwork to work in this country makes us look foolish.

    Google Search: American Tax Preparation Industry Profits :eek:
     
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    why didn't they repair it with the trillions they spent the 1st time ??
     
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    Just two?? Wow, I've heard a lot more. So many in fact, let me be perfectly clear, I will not rest until I lie to you so much you won't know what to believe. :)
     
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