Twice as many voters say Trump is better for Black Americans than Obama

Never heard of him. I'm amused by the highlighted in red..as i believe the exact same thing of both parties!

I disagree. It has been 30 years since Ronald Reagan was president. In that time I can name a host of policy changes of the Democrats that have sent them to the extreme Left. Can you do the same regarding Republican policies? I don't think so. Our policies today are the same as Reagan's

But the Dems? They have embraced socialism, infanticide, transgender crap, one-payer socialized medicine, and more. They have gone extreme Left, to the point that even Joe Biden is a man to be destroyed by them.

reagan banned assault rifles & reduced nukes.
And gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

And added nearly more than 3 times to the national debt than all other presidents before him combined.

& raised taxes 11 times after cutting them so drastically, no revenue was coming in & was starting to have devastating effects.
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
Lol you are no republican haha
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.

i'm married to a (R) who is both pissed & saddened at what happened to the party.
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
Lol you are no republican haha
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk! So did both Bushes.
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
Lol you are no republican haha
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk!
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
 
......Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have........

Is this addressed to me? We did not start the culture wars, the Left did. The Left forced gay marriage and abortion and transgender crap on this nation. We conservatives still hold to traditional values that have always been the backbone of western civilization. It is the Left who have injected abominable perversions into society.

The Left started the war, so don't blame us because we resist their evil.

i'm married to a (R) who is both pissed & saddened at what happened to the party.

Assuming this is not a lie, then your wife is nuts. Nothing has changed. Trump has merely done what previous Republicans promised to do but never did because they were sucked in by money and globalists.

That is why he beat a huge field of good qualified Republicans, because we were tired of their lies and broken promises. We didn't want anymore establishment hacks..
 
.....Both fiscal conservatism and Bush's compassionate conservatism have been tossed onto the trash heap of yesteryear....

Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

....As to your list...pardon, your prejudices are showing! Most Dems don't begin to support your laundry list.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

....Extreme left progressives do..

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
Lol you are no republican haha
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk!
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
 
Not officially they have not, but I will concede they have done a bad job of it lately.

I disagree. I think that YOUR bias is showing there. And for those older Dems who maybe don't, their vote publicly proclaims that they do. If you vote for the people that are making those things happen then you are supporting those things. Votes matter.

They are the ones controlling the party now, so there you go.
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
Lol you are no republican haha
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk!
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
His ratings aren’t at 80% because 99% of the media is fake news, 90% of educators Are left wing nut jobs.. won’t matter most dems trump republican at 30
 
......Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have........

Is this addressed to me? We did not start the culture wars, the Left did. The Left forced gay marriage and abortion and transgender crap on this nation. We conservatives still hold to traditional values that have always been the backbone of western civilization. It is the Left who have injected abominable perversions into society.

The Left started the war, so don't blame us because we resist their evil.
Nope..was addressed to the other guy..LOL! As for the history of our culture wars. I'll not bore you...but probably started with Women's suffrage and the Unions--got a huge push from the 60's Civil right's movement--and went nuclear with Social Media and the internet.

You present your position as a holy war..evil and all. Scary position to legislate from. I'm one of those who believes in personal responsibility..and removing govt. from our bedrooms, our bodies and our schools.
 
Fair enough, I guess...I'm an old Republican...so my prejudices have more to do with small govt. and civility. I despise liars and I think that anyone who is willing to do and say anything to get elected---will not get my vote.

Some day soon..I hope to kick the Trump squatters out of my party....and reimpose sanity.
Lol you are no republican haha
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk!
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
His ratings aren’t at 80% because 99% of the media is fake news, 90% of educators Are left wing nut jobs.. won’t matter most dems trump republican at 30
That is what you got out of my post..the numbers? ROTFLMAO!
 
Lol you are no republican haha
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk!
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
His ratings aren’t at 80% because 99% of the media is fake news, 90% of educators Are left wing nut jobs.. won’t matter most dems trump republican at 30
That is what you got out of my post..the numbers? ROTFLMAO!
You think Businessmen hat file for bankruptcy is unethical ? Lol we would have jobs if men didn’t take chances. You win some you lose some.. you’re just uneducated on how the world works
 
That spells doom for the Dims. If Trump gets 15% of the black vote the Dims haven't got a chance.

The First Black President: Twice as Many Voters Say TRUMP Better for Blacks Than Barack Obama

33% of likely voters say President Trump has made life better for African Americans. When Obama left office in 2099 only 13% of likely voters said he made life better for African Americans. This is not the first time Trump has seen his numbers climb among African Americans. A VoterLabs poll in May found that 29% of female African Americans approve of President’s Trump.

To be fair bripat9643
Different people respond to different leadership differently.

For every person who was so inspired by Obama, they started VOTING for the first time and paying attention to
govt and policies and how they have ability to participate and influence,
this was a HUGE FIRST STEP.

That can't be compared to conservative Black leaders who have been fighting a DIFFERENT battle,
and now Trump is making it safe to come out and speak for the first time without apology,
even if it means getting slammed for it. That's a HUGE CHANGE also.

Different groups are in different stages,
so what is progress to some looks the opposite to others!

Let each one move forward on their own path and let's
HELP EACH OTHER to get to a BETTER PLACE.

Let's not judge if some are farther behind,
or if they take different approaches. All people
need to take OWNERSHIP which means they define
their process DIFFERENTLY and relate to different models.

Why not ask Black leaders from conservative backgrounds and business/financial mgmt experience to MENTOR and partner up with Black leaders and members who are currently depending on govt.

Why can't we ENCOURAGE Black leadership in community building TOGETHER
instead of abusing politics of race, party and economic class to divide and oppress.

We all agree the Black community deserves better than the mess we're seeing now.
Why not encourage, reward and invite greater mentorship and participation in building
sustainable relations and economic solutions that EMPOWER leadership in these affected communities?

Asclepias
IM2
MarcATL
 
......Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have........

Is this addressed to me? We did not start the culture wars, the Left did. The Left forced gay marriage and abortion and transgender crap on this nation. We conservatives still hold to traditional values that have always been the backbone of western civilization. It is the Left who have injected abominable perversions into society.

The Left started the war, so don't blame us because we resist their evil.
Nope..was addressed to the other guy..LOL! As for the history of our culture wars. I'll not bore you...but probably started with Women's suffrage and the Unions--got a huge push from the 60's Civil right's movement--and went nuclear with Social Media and the internet.

You present your position as a holy war..evil and all. Scary position to legislate from. I'm one of those who believes in personal responsibility..and removing govt. from our bedrooms, our bodies and our schools.

I see. You are taking a wider view. Okay.

BTW: I would not legislate it as a holy war either. I can make secular arguments against all that stuff. In fact, I think we made a big mistake harping about God and the Bible when gay marriage started coming to the fore as an issue. It should have been attacked from the medical angle and the angle of established law.
 
33% of likely voters say President Trump has made life better for African Americans. When Obama left office in 2099 only 13% of likely voters said he made life better for African Americans. This is not the first time Trump has seen his numbers climb among African Americans. A VoterLabs poll in May found that 29% of female African Americans approve of President’s Trump.

It would be a lot bigger number if the other 67% were not watching fake news.
 
You don't get to decide.....it may come as a shock to you....but Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have. I think that the far right..the alt/right..the Trumpistas..are not real Republicans...just a part of the party that we spent 60 years playing for their votes...and giving them nothing--come back to haunt us. Sins of the father's and all that.

Nixon knew how to play your ilk!
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
His ratings aren’t at 80% because 99% of the media is fake news, 90% of educators Are left wing nut jobs.. won’t matter most dems trump republican at 30
That is what you got out of my post..the numbers? ROTFLMAO!
You think Businessmen hat file for bankruptcy is unethical ? Lol we would have jobs if men didn’t take chances. You win some you lose some.. you’re just uneducated on how the world works
This is too funny.....I used the term 'ethical bankrupt' to describe one who is devoid of ethics. I think that Trump's financial failings are by far the least of his issues.
 
Culture wars?? Do you even know what you’re talking about?? Lol you can’t have different cultures in America.. the most multicultural neighborhoods in America are all high in murder, and violet crime, and are crying of racial oppression.
The fight must be won.
And 90% of republicans support trump you are a small minority
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
His ratings aren’t at 80% because 99% of the media is fake news, 90% of educators Are left wing nut jobs.. won’t matter most dems trump republican at 30
That is what you got out of my post..the numbers? ROTFLMAO!
You think Businessmen hat file for bankruptcy is unethical ? Lol we would have jobs if men didn’t take chances. You win some you lose some.. you’re just uneducated on how the world works
This is too funny.....I used the term 'ethical bankrupt' to describe one who is devoid of ethics. I think that Trump's financial failings are by far the least of his issues.
Name something else that hurts your feelings
 
......Many, Many Republicans do NOT support your culture wars and never have........

Is this addressed to me? We did not start the culture wars, the Left did. The Left forced gay marriage and abortion and transgender crap on this nation. We conservatives still hold to traditional values that have always been the backbone of western civilization. It is the Left who have injected abominable perversions into society.

The Left started the war, so don't blame us because we resist their evil.
Nope..was addressed to the other guy..LOL! As for the history of our culture wars. I'll not bore you...but probably started with Women's suffrage and the Unions--got a huge push from the 60's Civil right's movement--and went nuclear with Social Media and the internet.

You present your position as a holy war..evil and all. Scary position to legislate from. I'm one of those who believes in personal responsibility..and removing govt. from our bedrooms, our bodies and our schools.

I see. You are taking a wider view. Okay.

BTW: I would not legislate it as a holy war either. I can make secular arguments against all that stuff. In fact, I think we made a big mistake harping about God and the Bible when gay marriage started coming to the fore as an issue. It should have been attacked from the medical angle and the angle of established law.
Interesting..what medical angle? AIDS? Pretty much handled by the time Gay Marriage really started rolling. There's joke somewhere in the phrase 'angle of established law' but I'll refrain! LOL!
Law is precedent. True that. But times change..and so do precedents.

You would have had better luck with Abortion...the attack that would have worked..from a non-religious standpoint..would have been education and contraception.

Women need to have absolute sovereignty over their bodies. No pregnancy...no issue. But laisez-faire sexual attitudes---are seen as being the end of society. maybe even more than abortion?
 
More like about 70%--but no matter..the thing is..these folks support a R in the White House..Trump...not so much..but better than a D. I won't vote for a D..unless they talk some serious moderation...but I would never vote for an ethical bankrupt like Trump.

Trump's national support has remained steady...for quite a while now....between 30 and 40%. Same old hard core. The thing that favors Trump...and all extremist candidates of both parties..is our Primary system. It forces both parties to the fringes and keeps the moderates out.

Trump may well win another term..maybe. Lord knows the Dems are clueless in their rush to the extreme as well. But when he is out----The GOP has already changed many of the rules that favored his candidacy. You can believe that we will do our best to make sure that populist candidates are relegated to third party status from now until eternity!
His ratings aren’t at 80% because 99% of the media is fake news, 90% of educators Are left wing nut jobs.. won’t matter most dems trump republican at 30
That is what you got out of my post..the numbers? ROTFLMAO!
You think Businessmen hat file for bankruptcy is unethical ? Lol we would have jobs if men didn’t take chances. You win some you lose some.. you’re just uneducated on how the world works
This is too funny.....I used the term 'ethical bankrupt' to describe one who is devoid of ethics. I think that Trump's financial failings are by far the least of his issues.
Name something else that hurts your feelings
***chuckles***
I take it that this discussion is a bit over your head..no worries..you may go back to slinging poo and engaging in High School rhetorical tricks.

I have to wonder...it seems to be axiomatic with your crowd that everyone's feelings are so hurt over Trump..Trump does not hurt me in any way..hell..he's probably made me money!

I do have issues with his constituency---many seem so 'dumbed down.' But that may be the venue of our discussion. Here in Idaho, I am with Trump supporters all the time..and they are intelligent, caring people--i wonder..what happened to you?
 

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