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Turkey's last hope dies | Fox News

Friday night’s failed coup was Turkey’s last hope to stop the Islamization of its government and the degradation of its society. Reflexively, Western leaders rushed to condemn a coup attempt they refused to understand. Their reward will be a toxic Islamist regime at the gates of Europe.

Our leaders no longer do their basic homework.The media relies on experts-by-Wikipedia. Except for PC platitudes, our schools ignore the world beyond our shores. Deluged with unreliable information, citizens succumb to the new superstitions of the digital age.

So a great country is destroyed by Islamist hardliners before our eyes—and our president praises its “democracy.”

That tragically failed coup was a forlorn hope, not an attempt to take over a country. Turkey is not a banana republic in which the military grasps the reins for its own profit. For almost a century, the Turkish armed forces have been the guardians of the country’s secular constitution. Most recently, coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980 (with “non-coup” pressure in 1997) saw the military intervene to prevent the country’s collapse.

Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

Each time, the military returned the government to civilian rule as soon as that proved practical. My own first experience of Turkey came just before the 1980 coup. Turkey was broke and broken. The economy was in such a shambles that you could not buy a cup of Turkish coffee in Istanbul. I walked because taxis and public transportation had no fuel. Murderous political violence raged. Reluctantly, the generals stepped in and saved their country.

Friday night, mid-grade officers led a desperate effort to rescue their country again. They failed. The West cheered. Soon enough, we’ll mourn.

The coup leaders made disastrous mistakes, the worst of which was to imagine that the absence of President Erdogan from Ankara, the capital, presented the perfect opportunity. Wrong. In a coup, the key is to seize the leaders you mean to overthrow (as well as control of the media). Instead of fleeing into exile, Erdogan was able to return in triumph.

So who is the man our own president rushed to support because he was “democratically elected?” Recep Tayyip Erdogan is openly Islamist and affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which President Obama appears to believe represents the best hope for the Middle East. But the difference between ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t one of purpose, but merely of manners: Muslim Brothers wash the blood off their hands before they sit down to dinner with their dupes.

With barely a murmured “Tut-tut!” from Western leaders, Erdogan has dismantled Turkey’s secular constitution (which the military is duty-bound to protect). His “democracy” resembles Putin’s, not ours. Key opposition figures have been driven into exile or banned. Opposition parties have been suppressed. Recent elections have not been held so much as staged. And Erdogan has torn the fresh scab from the Kurdish wound, fostering civil war in Turkey’s southeast for his own political advantage.

Erdogan has packed Turkey’s courts with Islamists. He appointed pliant, pro-Islamist generals and admirals, while staging show trials of those of whom he wished to rid the country. He has de facto, if not yet de jure, curtailed women’s freedoms. He dissolved the wall between mosque and state (Friday night, he used mosques’ loudspeakers to call his supporters into the streets). Not least, he had long allowed foreign fighters to transit Turkey to join ISIS and has aggressively backed other extremists whom he believed he could manage.

And his diplomatic extortion racket has degraded our own military efforts against ISIS.

That’s the man President Obama supports.

And the leaders of the ill-fated coup? What did they stand for? Mustafa Kemal Ataturk’s legacy and a secular constitution. One of the great men of the last century, Ataturk (an innovative general by background) pulled Turkey from the wreckage of World War One, abolished the caliphate, suppressed fanatical religious orders, gave women legal rights and social protections, banned the veil, promoted secular education for all citizens of Turkey, strongly advocated Westernization and modernization…and promoted a democratic future.

The officers who led the collapsed coup stood for all those things. President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry opposed them.

By Saturday morning, it was clear that the mullahs and mobs behind Erdogan had won. Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

NATO, which operates by consensus, will find itself embracing a poisonous snake. New crises will reawaken old fears in southeastern Europe, which western European states will dismiss condescendingly, further crippling the badly limping European Union. Syria will continue to bleed. And educated, secular Turks will find themselves in a situation like unto that of German liberals in the 1930s. We may see new and unexpected wars.

A desperate, ill-planned coup has failed in Turkey. Here comes the darkness.


Fox News Strategic Analyst Ralph Peters is a retired U.S. Army officer and former enlisted man. He is the author of prize-winning fiction and non-fiction books on the Civil War and the military. His latest is "The Damned of Petersburg: A Novel" (Forge Books, June 28, 2016).
 
Turkey's last hope dies | Fox News

Friday night’s failed coup was Turkey’s last hope to stop the Islamization of its government and the degradation of its society. Reflexively, Western leaders rushed to condemn a coup attempt they refused to understand. Their reward will be a toxic Islamist regime at the gates of Europe.

Our leaders no longer do their basic homework.The media relies on experts-by-Wikipedia. Except for PC platitudes, our schools ignore the world beyond our shores. Deluged with unreliable information, citizens succumb to the new superstitions of the digital age.

So a great country is destroyed by Islamist hardliners before our eyes—and our president praises its “democracy.”

That tragically failed coup was a forlorn hope, not an attempt to take over a country. Turkey is not a banana republic in which the military grasps the reins for its own profit. For almost a century, the Turkish armed forces have been the guardians of the country’s secular constitution. Most recently, coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980 (with “non-coup” pressure in 1997) saw the military intervene to prevent the country’s collapse.

Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

Each time, the military returned the government to civilian rule as soon as that proved practical. My own first experience of Turkey came just before the 1980 coup. Turkey was broke and broken. The economy was in such a shambles that you could not buy a cup of Turkish coffee in Istanbul. I walked because taxis and public transportation had no fuel. Murderous political violence raged. Reluctantly, the generals stepped in and saved their country.

Friday night, mid-grade officers led a desperate effort to rescue their country again. They failed. The West cheered. Soon enough, we’ll mourn.

The coup leaders made disastrous mistakes, the worst of which was to imagine that the absence of President Erdogan from Ankara, the capital, presented the perfect opportunity. Wrong. In a coup, the key is to seize the leaders you mean to overthrow (as well as control of the media). Instead of fleeing into exile, Erdogan was able to return in triumph.

So who is the man our own president rushed to support because he was “democratically elected?” Recep Tayyip Erdogan is openly Islamist and affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which President Obama appears to believe represents the best hope for the Middle East. But the difference between ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t one of purpose, but merely of manners: Muslim Brothers wash the blood off their hands before they sit down to dinner with their dupes.

With barely a murmured “Tut-tut!” from Western leaders, Erdogan has dismantled Turkey’s secular constitution (which the military is duty-bound to protect). His “democracy” resembles Putin’s, not ours. Key opposition figures have been driven into exile or banned. Opposition parties have been suppressed. Recent elections have not been held so much as staged. And Erdogan has torn the fresh scab from the Kurdish wound, fostering civil war in Turkey’s southeast for his own political advantage.

Erdogan has packed Turkey’s courts with Islamists. He appointed pliant, pro-Islamist generals and admirals, while staging show trials of those of whom he wished to rid the country. He has de facto, if not yet de jure, curtailed women’s freedoms. He dissolved the wall between mosque and state (Friday night, he used mosques’ loudspeakers to call his supporters into the streets). Not least, he had long allowed foreign fighters to transit Turkey to join ISIS and has aggressively backed other extremists whom he believed he could manage.

And his diplomatic extortion racket has degraded our own military efforts against ISIS.

That’s the man President Obama supports.

And the leaders of the ill-fated coup? What did they stand for? Mustafa Kemal Ataturk’s legacy and a secular constitution. One of the great men of the last century, Ataturk (an innovative general by background) pulled Turkey from the wreckage of World War One, abolished the caliphate, suppressed fanatical religious orders, gave women legal rights and social protections, banned the veil, promoted secular education for all citizens of Turkey, strongly advocated Westernization and modernization…and promoted a democratic future.

The officers who led the collapsed coup stood for all those things. President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry opposed them.

By Saturday morning, it was clear that the mullahs and mobs behind Erdogan had won. Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

NATO, which operates by consensus, will find itself embracing a poisonous snake. New crises will reawaken old fears in southeastern Europe, which western European states will dismiss condescendingly, further crippling the badly limping European Union. Syria will continue to bleed. And educated, secular Turks will find themselves in a situation like unto that of German liberals in the 1930s. We may see new and unexpected wars.

A desperate, ill-planned coup has failed in Turkey. Here comes the darkness.


Fox News Strategic Analyst Ralph Peters is a retired U.S. Army officer and former enlisted man. He is the author of prize-winning fiction and non-fiction books on the Civil War and the military. His latest is "The Damned of Petersburg: A Novel" (Forge Books, June 28, 2016).

Well said indeed.
 
The US has been a massive supporter of Turkey for many years, one of the best not talked about notes being the US nuclear missiles that were placed there that sparked the Cuba missile crisis. The US missiles required a counter threat, so the USSR installed theirs in Cuba.
However, the US has been arming Turkey as a counter to anti Israeli states in the region, making Turkey a very well armed country, almost as rich as Israel in front line fixed wing combat aircraft strength.

Turkey Military Strength

Israel Military Strength

The coup has provided the government with the perfect excuse to remove all the moderates, including judges and other civilians that had absolutely nothing to do with the coup, but agree with the principles of moderation in religion and separation of church and state.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?_r=0

Turkey is becoming a rather extreme Islamic state, a very well armed one thanks to US foreign policy.
 
Erdogene staged his own coup in an Attempt to consolidate power...


"Extradite":eek:

A US-based Turkish cleric accused of plotting a coup to overthrow the Ankara government has claimed President Recep Erdogan staged the rebellion himself to justify a major clampdown on opposition forces.

Fethullah Gulen, who was a former key ally of Erdogan has been blamed by the politician of using his contacts to develop a 'parallel structure' to overthrow the state.

Erdogan has called on US President Barack Obama to extradite Gulen, who is based in Pennsylvania.




Turkish president Recep Erdogan accused of arranging coup himself
 
The US has been a massive supporter of Turkey for many years, one of the best not talked about notes being the US nuclear missiles that were placed there that sparked the Cuba missile crisis. The US missiles required a counter threat, so the USSR installed theirs in Cuba.
However, the US has been arming Turkey as a counter to anti Israeli states in the region, making Turkey a very well armed country, almost as rich as Israel in front line fixed wing combat aircraft strength.

Turkey Military Strength

Israel Military Strength

The coup has provided the government with the perfect excuse to remove all the moderates, including judges and other civilians that had absolutely nothing to do with the coup, but agree with the principles of moderation in religion and separation of church and state.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?_r=0

Turkey is becoming a rather extreme Islamic state, a very well armed one thanks to US foreign policy.

You mean Obama's pro-radical Islamist policy.
 
The US backed potential dictator is now using the coup as an excuse to arrest or remove political opponents and anyone who could get in his way.

Turkey coup attempt: Some 6,000 people detained, says minister - BBC News

At least 3,000 soldiers have been arrested and some 2,700 judges sacked since the coup came to an end.

The US has been supplying arms to this potential islamist dictator for many years, even though they were fully aware of what he was.

How Washington Got Turkey's Dictator So Wrong

All in the hope of supporting Israel.
What a set of fucking idiots the yanks are.
 
The US has been a massive supporter of Turkey for many years, one of the best not talked about notes being the US nuclear missiles that were placed there that sparked the Cuba missile crisis. The US missiles required a counter threat, so the USSR installed theirs in Cuba.
However, the US has been arming Turkey as a counter to anti Israeli states in the region, making Turkey a very well armed country, almost as rich as Israel in front line fixed wing combat aircraft strength.

Turkey Military Strength

Israel Military Strength

The coup has provided the government with the perfect excuse to remove all the moderates, including judges and other civilians that had absolutely nothing to do with the coup, but agree with the principles of moderation in religion and separation of church and state.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?_r=0

Turkey is becoming a rather extreme Islamic state, a very well armed one thanks to US foreign policy.

Obama can now provide them with a fleet of Toyota trucks like he did ISIS.
 
The US has been a massive supporter of Turkey for many years, one of the best not talked about notes being the US nuclear missiles that were placed there that sparked the Cuba missile crisis. The US missiles required a counter threat, so the USSR installed theirs in Cuba.
However, the US has been arming Turkey as a counter to anti Israeli states in the region, making Turkey a very well armed country, almost as rich as Israel in front line fixed wing combat aircraft strength.

Turkey Military Strength

Israel Military Strength

The coup has provided the government with the perfect excuse to remove all the moderates, including judges and other civilians that had absolutely nothing to do with the coup, but agree with the principles of moderation in religion and separation of church and state.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?_r=0

Turkey is becoming a rather extreme Islamic state, a very well armed one thanks to US foreign policy.







And now with no chance of ever entering the EU as they are talking about bringing back executions
 
The US has been a massive supporter of Turkey for many years, one of the best not talked about notes being the US nuclear missiles that were placed there that sparked the Cuba missile crisis. The US missiles required a counter threat, so the USSR installed theirs in Cuba.
However, the US has been arming Turkey as a counter to anti Israeli states in the region, making Turkey a very well armed country, almost as rich as Israel in front line fixed wing combat aircraft strength.

Turkey Military Strength

Israel Military Strength

The coup has provided the government with the perfect excuse to remove all the moderates, including judges and other civilians that had absolutely nothing to do with the coup, but agree with the principles of moderation in religion and separation of church and state.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?_r=0

Turkey is becoming a rather extreme Islamic state, a very well armed one thanks to US foreign policy.







And now with no chance of ever entering the EU as they are talking about bringing back executions

That's nothing - they appear to have made around 6,000 arrests of 'suspects' as well as removed anyone from office who dislikes the government. This is heading for a dictatorship with an extremist Islamic flavour, and another disaster for the region's political stability.
The difference this time is they have a strong military, all provided by the US in an attempt to do the impossible.
We already know they support ISIS by giving shelter, providing medical care and buying oil, but they're probably up to a lot more, and they have the ability to force their way into other countries, making them extremely dangerous,
Greece has a bunch of their coup leaders, and they have the ability to seriously damage Greece as punishment at some future date.
They also have a serious production capability, including building aircraft such as the F16.
Potentially very dangerous, but now politically unstable.
I wonder if the F35 deal will still go ahead.
 
The US has often made the mistake of seeking allies in
the UMMAH -------I believe that the US is beginning to
learn.
 
The US has been a massive supporter of Turkey for many years, one of the best not talked about notes being the US nuclear missiles that were placed there that sparked the Cuba missile crisis. The US missiles required a counter threat, so the USSR installed theirs in Cuba.
However, the US has been arming Turkey as a counter to anti Israeli states in the region, making Turkey a very well armed country, almost as rich as Israel in front line fixed wing combat aircraft strength.

Turkey Military Strength

Israel Military Strength

The coup has provided the government with the perfect excuse to remove all the moderates, including judges and other civilians that had absolutely nothing to do with the coup, but agree with the principles of moderation in religion and separation of church and state.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?_r=0

Turkey is becoming a rather extreme Islamic state, a very well armed one thanks to US foreign policy.







And now with no chance of ever entering the EU as they are talking about bringing back executions

That's nothing - they appear to have made around 6,000 arrests of 'suspects' as well as removed anyone from office who dislikes the government. This is heading for a dictatorship with an extremist Islamic flavour, and another disaster for the region's political stability.
The difference this time is they have a strong military, all provided by the US in an attempt to do the impossible.
We already know they support ISIS by giving shelter, providing medical care and buying oil, but they're probably up to a lot more, and they have the ability to force their way into other countries, making them extremely dangerous,
Greece has a bunch of their coup leaders, and they have the ability to seriously damage Greece as punishment at some future date.
They also have a serious production capability, including building aircraft such as the F16.
Potentially very dangerous, but now politically unstable.
I wonder if the F35 deal will still go ahead.





Right up your street isnt it, a pity it is the wrong islam behind it
 
Turkey's last hope dies | Fox News

Friday night’s failed coup was Turkey’s last hope to stop the Islamization of its government and the degradation of its society. Reflexively, Western leaders rushed to condemn a coup attempt they refused to understand. Their reward will be a toxic Islamist regime at the gates of Europe.

Our leaders no longer do their basic homework.The media relies on experts-by-Wikipedia. Except for PC platitudes, our schools ignore the world beyond our shores. Deluged with unreliable information, citizens succumb to the new superstitions of the digital age.

So a great country is destroyed by Islamist hardliners before our eyes—and our president praises its “democracy.”

That tragically failed coup was a forlorn hope, not an attempt to take over a country. Turkey is not a banana republic in which the military grasps the reins for its own profit. For almost a century, the Turkish armed forces have been the guardians of the country’s secular constitution. Most recently, coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980 (with “non-coup” pressure in 1997) saw the military intervene to prevent the country’s collapse.

Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

Each time, the military returned the government to civilian rule as soon as that proved practical. My own first experience of Turkey came just before the 1980 coup. Turkey was broke and broken. The economy was in such a shambles that you could not buy a cup of Turkish coffee in Istanbul. I walked because taxis and public transportation had no fuel. Murderous political violence raged. Reluctantly, the generals stepped in and saved their country.

Friday night, mid-grade officers led a desperate effort to rescue their country again. They failed. The West cheered. Soon enough, we’ll mourn.

The coup leaders made disastrous mistakes, the worst of which was to imagine that the absence of President Erdogan from Ankara, the capital, presented the perfect opportunity. Wrong. In a coup, the key is to seize the leaders you mean to overthrow (as well as control of the media). Instead of fleeing into exile, Erdogan was able to return in triumph.

So who is the man our own president rushed to support because he was “democratically elected?” Recep Tayyip Erdogan is openly Islamist and affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which President Obama appears to believe represents the best hope for the Middle East. But the difference between ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t one of purpose, but merely of manners: Muslim Brothers wash the blood off their hands before they sit down to dinner with their dupes.

With barely a murmured “Tut-tut!” from Western leaders, Erdogan has dismantled Turkey’s secular constitution (which the military is duty-bound to protect). His “democracy” resembles Putin’s, not ours. Key opposition figures have been driven into exile or banned. Opposition parties have been suppressed. Recent elections have not been held so much as staged. And Erdogan has torn the fresh scab from the Kurdish wound, fostering civil war in Turkey’s southeast for his own political advantage.

Erdogan has packed Turkey’s courts with Islamists. He appointed pliant, pro-Islamist generals and admirals, while staging show trials of those of whom he wished to rid the country. He has de facto, if not yet de jure, curtailed women’s freedoms. He dissolved the wall between mosque and state (Friday night, he used mosques’ loudspeakers to call his supporters into the streets). Not least, he had long allowed foreign fighters to transit Turkey to join ISIS and has aggressively backed other extremists whom he believed he could manage.

And his diplomatic extortion racket has degraded our own military efforts against ISIS.

That’s the man President Obama supports.

And the leaders of the ill-fated coup? What did they stand for? Mustafa Kemal Ataturk’s legacy and a secular constitution. One of the great men of the last century, Ataturk (an innovative general by background) pulled Turkey from the wreckage of World War One, abolished the caliphate, suppressed fanatical religious orders, gave women legal rights and social protections, banned the veil, promoted secular education for all citizens of Turkey, strongly advocated Westernization and modernization…and promoted a democratic future.

The officers who led the collapsed coup stood for all those things. President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry opposed them.

By Saturday morning, it was clear that the mullahs and mobs behind Erdogan had won. Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

NATO, which operates by consensus, will find itself embracing a poisonous snake. New crises will reawaken old fears in southeastern Europe, which western European states will dismiss condescendingly, further crippling the badly limping European Union. Syria will continue to bleed. And educated, secular Turks will find themselves in a situation like unto that of German liberals in the 1930s. We may see new and unexpected wars.

A desperate, ill-planned coup has failed in Turkey. Here comes the darkness.


Fox News Strategic Analyst Ralph Peters is a retired U.S. Army officer and former enlisted man. He is the author of prize-winning fiction and non-fiction books on the Civil War and the military. His latest is "The Damned of Petersburg: A Novel" (Forge Books, June 28, 2016).
How in the fokk can you favor a coup ??

Popular elected democracy not coup de tat is the most representative of the rights of the people.
 
Turkey's last hope dies | Fox News

Friday night’s failed coup was Turkey’s last hope to stop the Islamization of its government and the degradation of its society. Reflexively, Western leaders rushed to condemn a coup attempt they refused to understand. Their reward will be a toxic Islamist regime at the gates of Europe.

Our leaders no longer do their basic homework.The media relies on experts-by-Wikipedia. Except for PC platitudes, our schools ignore the world beyond our shores. Deluged with unreliable information, citizens succumb to the new superstitions of the digital age.

So a great country is destroyed by Islamist hardliners before our eyes—and our president praises its “democracy.”

That tragically failed coup was a forlorn hope, not an attempt to take over a country. Turkey is not a banana republic in which the military grasps the reins for its own profit. For almost a century, the Turkish armed forces have been the guardians of the country’s secular constitution. Most recently, coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980 (with “non-coup” pressure in 1997) saw the military intervene to prevent the country’s collapse.

Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

Each time, the military returned the government to civilian rule as soon as that proved practical. My own first experience of Turkey came just before the 1980 coup. Turkey was broke and broken. The economy was in such a shambles that you could not buy a cup of Turkish coffee in Istanbul. I walked because taxis and public transportation had no fuel. Murderous political violence raged. Reluctantly, the generals stepped in and saved their country.

Friday night, mid-grade officers led a desperate effort to rescue their country again. They failed. The West cheered. Soon enough, we’ll mourn.

The coup leaders made disastrous mistakes, the worst of which was to imagine that the absence of President Erdogan from Ankara, the capital, presented the perfect opportunity. Wrong. In a coup, the key is to seize the leaders you mean to overthrow (as well as control of the media). Instead of fleeing into exile, Erdogan was able to return in triumph.

So who is the man our own president rushed to support because he was “democratically elected?” Recep Tayyip Erdogan is openly Islamist and affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which President Obama appears to believe represents the best hope for the Middle East. But the difference between ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t one of purpose, but merely of manners: Muslim Brothers wash the blood off their hands before they sit down to dinner with their dupes.

With barely a murmured “Tut-tut!” from Western leaders, Erdogan has dismantled Turkey’s secular constitution (which the military is duty-bound to protect). His “democracy” resembles Putin’s, not ours. Key opposition figures have been driven into exile or banned. Opposition parties have been suppressed. Recent elections have not been held so much as staged. And Erdogan has torn the fresh scab from the Kurdish wound, fostering civil war in Turkey’s southeast for his own political advantage.

Erdogan has packed Turkey’s courts with Islamists. He appointed pliant, pro-Islamist generals and admirals, while staging show trials of those of whom he wished to rid the country. He has de facto, if not yet de jure, curtailed women’s freedoms. He dissolved the wall between mosque and state (Friday night, he used mosques’ loudspeakers to call his supporters into the streets). Not least, he had long allowed foreign fighters to transit Turkey to join ISIS and has aggressively backed other extremists whom he believed he could manage.

And his diplomatic extortion racket has degraded our own military efforts against ISIS.

That’s the man President Obama supports.

And the leaders of the ill-fated coup? What did they stand for? Mustafa Kemal Ataturk’s legacy and a secular constitution. One of the great men of the last century, Ataturk (an innovative general by background) pulled Turkey from the wreckage of World War One, abolished the caliphate, suppressed fanatical religious orders, gave women legal rights and social protections, banned the veil, promoted secular education for all citizens of Turkey, strongly advocated Westernization and modernization…and promoted a democratic future.

The officers who led the collapsed coup stood for all those things. President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry opposed them.

By Saturday morning, it was clear that the mullahs and mobs behind Erdogan had won. Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

NATO, which operates by consensus, will find itself embracing a poisonous snake. New crises will reawaken old fears in southeastern Europe, which western European states will dismiss condescendingly, further crippling the badly limping European Union. Syria will continue to bleed. And educated, secular Turks will find themselves in a situation like unto that of German liberals in the 1930s. We may see new and unexpected wars.

A desperate, ill-planned coup has failed in Turkey. Here comes the darkness.


Fox News Strategic Analyst Ralph Peters is a retired U.S. Army officer and former enlisted man. He is the author of prize-winning fiction and non-fiction books on the Civil War and the military. His latest is "The Damned of Petersburg: A Novel" (Forge Books, June 28, 2016).
How in the fokk can you favor a coup ??

Popular elected democracy not coup de tat is the most representative of the rights of the people.

adolf hitler was VERY POPULAR. The aytoilets of Iran "got in" on popular vote. Idi Amin was popularly acclaimed
"DICTATOR FOR LIFE"
 
Popular elected democracy not coup de tat is the most representative of the rights of the people.

But America has removed a few governments, and tried to remove others, some elected by the people of the countries you attacked.
Perhaps you'll join me in condemning the United states and Great Britain for removing the elected government of Iran, the thing that started the events that led up to the Islamic revolution there.
 
Popular elected democracy not coup de tat is the most representative of the rights of the people.

But America has removed a few governments, and tried to remove others, some elected by the people of the countries you attacked.
Perhaps you'll join me in condemning the United states and Great Britain for removing the elected government of Iran, the thing that started the events that led up to the Islamic revolution there.

Neither the US nor Great Britain removed the elected government of Iran There is an islamo Nazi dog libel
suggesting that the US AND GREAT BRTAIN ARMIES AND NAVIES------INVADED IRAN and put "DA SHAH" in power---
but the fact is that Iranian pro royalists did it. Islamo Nazi pimps like to imply----the move made DA KAFFRIN too happy so it musta been either dem or da jooooos
 
Popular elected democracy not coup de tat is the most representative of the rights of the people.

But America has removed a few governments, and tried to remove others, some elected by the people of the countries you attacked.
Perhaps you'll join me in condemning the United states and Great Britain for removing the elected government of Iran, the thing that started the events that led up to the Islamic revolution there.






Not until you condemn islam in general for teaching terrorism as the norm why should we ?
 

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