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The indictment acknowledges he can verbally say it is stolen all day long forever but his actions must be within the law. Initially they were all within the law and he lost. Then he attempted actions that are illegal. If he felt his actions were legal and they are illegal he is guilty. Actions not speech. Trying to stop the Pence from approving the election is illegal.Sure but that's not the issue. In this case, the entire case rests on whether or not he actually believed the election was NOT stolen and acted in contravention of that belief.
We will see.^ Obsessive desperation.
7 years and counting...
Did Trump sit on Pence?The indictment acknowledges he can verbally say it is stolen all day long forever but his actions must be within the law. Initially they were all within the law and he lost. Then he attempted actions that are illegal. If he felt his actions were legal and they are illegal he is guilty. Actions not speech. Trying to stop the Pence from approving the election is illegal.
No, his "beliefs" are only an indication of state of mind.Sure but that's not the issue. In this case, the entire case rests on whether or not he actually believed the election was NOT stolen and acted in contravention of that belief.
Ask OJ about that one.Firstly, it's not all that hard to do. Their are plenty of people who told him so. Actually all the people who were responsible for finding out the election was fraudulent told him so. Knowledge and Wilful Blindness - Criminal Law Notebook The law doesn't allow for people to simply ignore the opinions they don't like in favor of those they do.
Secondly I don't see how the defense can convey that belief without putting Trump on the stand and subject him to cross-examination. I don't think they would like to do that.
Thirdly the case doesn't solely hinge on Trump's state of mind. If you sincerely believe I stole your tv. You're still going to get arrested of you break into my house in order to get it back. Sincere beliefs don't excuse criminal behavior. Like for instance plotting to establish fraudulent electors.
What actions?No, his "beliefs" are only an indication of state of mind.
Honestly believing the bank owes me a million bucks is not a legal defense to robbing the bank.
Trump is charged for his actions, not his beliefs.
Read the indictment and puke with disgust.What actions?
What actions?
you (Trump) lied about the position of the DOJ to a governor in order to do the same. None of you (Trump) wrote a fraudulent statement about electors and circulated it amongst battleground states. None of you (Trump) called such fake electors trying to get them to sign that statement, etc.,etc.
You ask someone to commit murder but they do not, your are guilty of a crime.Did Trump sit on Pence?
It is clear that democrats will do anything and everything to destroy this country as part of the transformation shitstain obama promised.
So when Trump said to peacefully and patriotically be heard, he's guilty of what?You ask someone to commit murder but they do not, your are guilty of a crime.
nothing but when told Pence to not certify the election, he was attempt to stop the constitutional process of cetifying election.So when Trump said to peacefully and patriotically be heard, he's guilty of what?
Good thing Trump didn't do anything like that.nothing but when told Pence to not certify the election, he was attempt to stop the constitutional process of cetifying election.
You cannot ask a secretary of a state to find 11,000 votes for you.
And much more.
You can use words to give your opinion all day long but when you take actins or request others to take actions that are illegal you are committing a crime.
Trump's lawyers are parroting the bullshit from their client who's a lunatic. As long as The Mar A Lago Lunatic is signing the checks they'll go along. Why not?Trump's lawyer cannot wait to cross examine Pence.
Trump's lawyer claims he can prove Trump had no criminal intent when he ask or demanded Pence not certify the election as our Constitution requires.
Trump is screwed. His lawyer is an idiot. If an action is illegal whether the purpetrator feels it is legal or not it is still illegal. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
And Trump is not ignorant of the law or should not be. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of our land.
Trump's lawyer says he ‘will be acquitted’ if Pence testifies
“Mike Pence will be one of our best witnesses at trial,” Lauro said Sunday during an interview on ABC’s “This Week.”www.politico.com
Wrong.The certification process should have been used to eliminate fraudulent votes. Pence failed America.
Trump's lawyer cannot wait to cross examine Pence.
Trump's lawyer claims he can prove Trump had no criminal intent when he ask or demanded Pence not certify the election as our Constitution requires.
Trump is screwed. His lawyer is an idiot. If an action is illegal whether the purpetrator feels it is legal or not it is still illegal. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
And Trump is not ignorant of the law or should not be. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of our land.
Trump's lawyer says he ‘will be acquitted’ if Pence testifies
“Mike Pence will be one of our best witnesses at trial,” Lauro said Sunday during an interview on ABC’s “This Week.”
Trump's lawyers are grabbing for straws.Trumps lawyer said that now they will have the opportunity to litigate the 2020 election in the court room. No, they won’t.
The trial won’t be about whether or not Donald Trump won the election. The trial will be about what he did after he lost the election.
