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It'll take much longer than 1/4 of the time, because salaries have to adjust on doctors, where Doctors may make a couple hundred thousand a year at tops, and high paid Hospital Admins and nurses and all hospital staffs and Pharma ceo's salaries etc will have to come down....I'm all for that. But I strongly suspect that you're not.the only way for our health care costs to come in line with reality, is for the govt to get OUT OF healthcare....
this means no more tax write offs for our portion and the employer's expense
No more funding to Medical Colleges, no more funding for research and development with tax monies, no more college grants for Doctors, no more health care coverage for kids(CHIP), mo more Medicaid for the rock bottom poor and indigent, no more paying hospital emergency bills for the indigent, no more funding hospitals, no more building new medical clinics,no more MEDICARE, no more MEDICAID, no more VA...., no more free vaccinations for kids.....
AND NO more HSA's...because HSA's are another gvt involved subsidy...
I'm certain there are even more things that have to be cut out that gvt promotes and funds....
I'd bet you my life savings it wouldn't take so much as 1/4 of that time frame.then MAYBE, in 10 to 20 years, the health care market will adjust and prices will come down
Government forces its way into the marketplace which ALWAYS causes higher costs, hands out a few paltry benefits to try and make up for it, then the people who try to recoup the losses from the higher costs caused by government meddling are hypocrites. Got it.govt is up to their eyeballs in our health care.....
you complain about the subsidies for the poorest, while you TAKE and USE all the other gvt subsidies and tax breaks they give you....
HYPOCRITES
Murica does not care.It'll take much longer than 1/4 of the time, because salaries have to adjust on doctors, where Doctors may make a couple hundred thousand a year at tops, and high paid Hospital Admins and nurses and all hospital staffs and Pharma ceo's salaries etc will have to come down....I'm all for that. But I strongly suspect that you're not.the only way for our health care costs to come in line with reality, is for the govt to get OUT OF healthcare....
this means no more tax write offs for our portion and the employer's expense
No more funding to Medical Colleges, no more funding for research and development with tax monies, no more college grants for Doctors, no more health care coverage for kids(CHIP), mo more Medicaid for the rock bottom poor and indigent, no more paying hospital emergency bills for the indigent, no more funding hospitals, no more building new medical clinics,no more MEDICARE, no more MEDICAID, no more VA...., no more free vaccinations for kids.....
AND NO more HSA's...because HSA's are another gvt involved subsidy...
I'm certain there are even more things that have to be cut out that gvt promotes and funds....
I'd bet you my life savings it wouldn't take so much as 1/4 of that time frame.then MAYBE, in 10 to 20 years, the health care market will adjust and prices will come down
Government forces its way into the marketplace which ALWAYS causes higher costs, hands out a few paltry benefits to try and make up for it, then the people who try to recoup the losses from the higher costs caused by government meddling are hypocrites. Got it.govt is up to their eyeballs in our health care.....
you complain about the subsidies for the poorest, while you TAKE and USE all the other gvt subsidies and tax breaks they give you....
HYPOCRITES
Everyone's salaries in the entire Medical field's salaries and associated connected fields, would have to come down, so that the product prices can come down, so that we could actually afford a normal yearly medical bill....
this could even take longer than the 10 - 20 years, NOT less time.
In the mean time, lots of people will die.
Because the GOP and the con dems would not agree to other reasonable solutions.Government option is the only way for the poor and lower working classes.
Great point Jake, so why put 300 million people into a plan that should be for 25 million people. Look, I am not a heartless SOB, I want people who need medical care to get it. But the fact that Medicare/Obamacare does not pay physicians enough to keep their lights on should tell you that if everybody is on that system we are going to have a problem. Why do you suppose most doctors put a limit on how many Medicare patients they take? It's because they need to get paid more than their cost.
One, either kill the health care insurance industry completely, or turn all financing over to single payer and make the health care providers bid.
Because the GOP and the con dems would not agree to other reasonable solutions.Government option is the only way for the poor and lower working classes.
Great point Jake, so why put 300 million people into a plan that should be for 25 million people. Look, I am not a heartless SOB, I want people who need medical care to get it. But the fact that Medicare/Obamacare does not pay physicians enough to keep their lights on should tell you that if everybody is on that system we are going to have a problem. Why do you suppose most doctors put a limit on how many Medicare patients they take? It's because they need to get paid more than their cost.
One, either kill the health care insurance industry completely, or turn all financing over to single payer and make the health care providers bid.
They could have bought in to it, but somehow the idea the Dems were in charge again, this time with a black president, was just too much for quite a few on the far right.Because the GOP and the con dems would not agree to other reasonable solutions.Government option is the only way for the poor and lower working classes.
Great point Jake, so why put 300 million people into a plan that should be for 25 million people. Look, I am not a heartless SOB, I want people who need medical care to get it. But the fact that Medicare/Obamacare does not pay physicians enough to keep their lights on should tell you that if everybody is on that system we are going to have a problem. Why do you suppose most doctors put a limit on how many Medicare patients they take? It's because they need to get paid more than their cost.
One, either kill the health care insurance industry completely, or turn all financing over to single payer and make the health care providers bid.
Let's be honest about it, the GOP had little to say about Obamacare. It was rammed thru and they knew it would be bad, but were powerless to stop it. The should have put something on the table when they had control. Perhaps they will if the clown wins and they hold congress, but then again, they are politicians, so nothing should be expected.
I voted for Mittens and hoped he might let each state design their own system like he did in Massachusetts.
the only way for our health care costs to come in line with reality, is for the govt to get OUT OF healthcare....
this means no more tax write offs for our portion and the employer's expense
No more funding to Medical Colleges, no more funding for research and development with tax monies, no more college grants for Doctors, no more health care coverage for kids(CHIP), mo more Medicaid for the rock bottom poor and indigent, no more paying hospital emergency bills for the indigent, no more funding hospitals, no more building new medical clinics,no more MEDICARE, no more MEDICAID, no more VA...., no more free vaccinations for kids.....
AND NO more HSA's...because HSA's are another gvt involved subsidy...
I'm certain there are even more things that have to be cut out that gvt promotes and funds....
then MAYBE, in 10 to 20 years, the health care market will adjust and prices will come down
in the mean time, enjoy paying your $1000 per person, for your monthly premiums...
govt is up to their eyeballs in our health care.....
you complain about the subsidies for the poorest, while you TAKE and USE all the other gvt subsidies and tax breaks they give you....
HYPOCRITES
The market is far more flexible and responsive than you think it is. Besides that, much of the increase of those salaries are because government has driven up the cost of doing business, while driving down the number of professionals participating in health care trades.It'll take much longer than 1/4 of the time, because salaries have to adjust on doctors, where Doctors may make a couple hundred thousand a year at tops, and high paid Hospital Admins and nurses and all hospital staffs and Pharma ceo's salaries etc will have to come down....
Everyone's salaries in the entire Medical field's salaries and associated connected fields, would have to come down, so that the product prices can come down, so that we could actually afford a normal yearly medical bill....
this could even take longer than the 10 - 20 years, NOT less time.
In the mean time, lots of people will die.
They could have bought in to it, but somehow the idea the Dems were in charge again, this time with a black president, was just too much for quite a few on the far right.
Out of that the Alt Right developed, and here we are.