Trump, the 14th and barring from office

[0311]

DodoAlex has to be the 1000th useful idiot trying to push the "Insurrection /14th amendment" Kool-Aid. BAHAHAHAHAHA he's probably never even read the 14th amendment or knows WHY it was written.

Nor have you.

U.S. Constitution.

14th. Amendment.

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Before you try to tell us that P01135809 was "Not An Officer", let me remind you that as president he also held the title of "Chief Executive" and was therefore an officer of the United States.

 

[0311]

Wow.
How much more irrelevant can you be?

He is still working on that.

 

[0311]

Nor does have to a conviction of Insurrection, he only has to found to have engaged in Insurrection.

 

[Dadoalex]

Wow - I was hoping we could have a 300th thread on this topic rather than just continuing to discuss on the other 299 threads here.

But yeah, garbage assertions/garbage thread.

Irrelevant.

 

[konradv]

They can remove everybody from the ballots if they want. Let them.

WE THE PEOPLE have the RIGHT to write in on the ballot ANYBODY we choose. And there's NOTHING they can do about that!

Sure you can write it, but no one’s going to count it

 

[The Irish Ram]

Irrelevant.

lol. You have made your own thread, nothing but irrelevant...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wow.
How much more irrelevant can you be?

Enjoy

 

[Dadoalex]

lol. You have made your own thread, nothing but irrelevant...

No, just you.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

"shall have engaged"
Is not the same as "have been convicted of"

And the 14th does not include any judicial remedies, only a 2/3 vote by congress to remove the ban.

Given that the 14th does not give the Courts jurisdiction but does give it to the legislature(s) my view is that only the legislatures at the State and Federal levels can make the determination.

DEI Fanni=fail
DEI James=Fail

Must return to the insurrection lie!

 

[Dadoalex]

DEI Fanni=fail
DEI James=Fail

Must return to the insurrection lie!

I see you're incapable of discussing the topic.

Perhaps something simpler is in order.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

If the 14th Amendment is so clear that conviction is not required. How come court after court in state after state has thrown that argument out and ordered Trump back on the ballot?

 

[Dadoalex]

If the 14th Amendment is so clear that conviction is not required. How come court after court in state after state has thrown that argument out and ordered Trump back on the ballot?

Answer in the OP

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Answer in the OP

Your opinion is not an answer.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The 14th doesn't require any conviction but the hundreds of currently convicted including those who've said they acted on Trump's orders are enough to make the presumption.

This thread is more about the process than the individuals.

The 14th amendment was created to be used by the Congress to control the states. States have no juridiction on the 14th amendment.

 

[Dadoalex]

Your opinion is not an answer.

Sure it is.
Better than any you'll get from your fellow MAGADUMIANS

 

[Dadoalex]

The 14th amendment was created to be used by the Congress to control the states. States have no juridiction on the 14th amendment.

The states decide who are electors.
The states therefore can decide if a candidate has commited or supported insurrection
That decision, once made by any state can only be reversed by a 2/3 vote of the Congress

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Sure it is.
Better than any you'll get from your fellow MAGADUMIANS

I am sooooo glad your kind is going down.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The states decide who are electors.
The states therefore can decide if a candidate has commited or supported insurrection
That decision, once made by any state can only be reversed by a 2/3 vote of the Congress

The states have no juridiction with the 14th amendment. They can't decide federal crimes

 

[Dadoalex]

I am sooooo glad your kind is going down.

Going Down?
Me? Never.
That's a MAGAT thing.

 

[Dadoalex]

The states have no juridiction with the 14th amendment. They can't decide federal crimes

not deciding crimes.
14th requires no convictions.
and the selection of electors resides strictly with the states.

Check Article II, Section 1, Clause 2