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Yes. J6th was insurrection. And just STOP with the peaceful shit.You still have to prove he “engaged in insurrection”.
First off, there was no “insurrection“ on J6. It was a mostly peaceful protest.
You still have to prove he “engaged in insurrection”.
First off, there was no “insurrection“ on J6. It was a mostly peaceful protest.
It also only applies to other elected officials, not the President.I need "prove" nothing.
The determination, by my reading, leaves it up to the state legislatures and Congress.
The 14th does not say "convict" or "prove"
and
The hundreds of convictions beg to differ
We will never believe you anymore. If there were real uprisings up to that time the media/entertainers would be dead.Yes. J6th was insurrection. And just STOP with the peaceful shit.
But...Skippy hasn't been convicted. So he's just dandy to run.
Believe what? That your time, and the time of people who believe as you do....is at an end?We will never believe you anymore. If there were real uprisings up to that time the media/entertainers would be dead.
From the 14thIt also only applies to other elected officials, not the President.
”electors of the President” is not the President.
The hundreds of convictions would put the lie to your denial.insurrection
"an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:"insurrection
1. an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and…dictionary.cambridge.org
armed insurrection
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Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources
By Mark Hosenball and Sarah N. Lynch
August 20, 202110:43 PM EDTUpdated 2 years ago
Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources
The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.www.reuters.com
"a violent uprising against an authority or government"....insurrection
"an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:"insurrection
1. an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and…dictionary.cambridge.org
armed insurrection
View attachment 894393
Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources
By Mark Hosenball and Sarah N. Lynch
August 20, 202110:43 PM EDTUpdated 2 years ago
Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources
The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.www.reuters.com
Totally relevant.Irrelevant
Translation: Trump is not only leading the national polls but is either tied or ahead in every single swing state. If we give Biden all of the ties, Trump wins and you are terrified to your bones.Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
First, the Ballots
I don't see anything in the text that calls for, permits, or forbids removing a person's name from the ballots. In the primaries this is solely a State decision and in the General this still falls to the states although Federal jurisdiction may be inferred via the VRA.
I don't see that SCOTUS has any jurisdiction in the primary prospect and its jurisdiction in the General is "iffy."
Certification at the State
This is the first place I see that Trump could be excluded. State legislatures, under the 14th, could refuse to certify a Trump win and decide to submit a different slate of electors or no electors at all.
The Congress
One of three places Trump could be declared an insurrectionist. Courts, and State Legislatures being the others. My reading says that a majority of each House, any State legislature, or any Federal court has the authority to declare Trump an insurrectionist at which time Trump can only enter any Federal office, elected or not, upon a 2/3 vote of each house of Congress.
Not sure how it would work in the Congress. Would each House hold a separate vote as to whether Trump is an insurrectionist? Would the VP declare Trump ineligible and the collective Congress vote?
My thinking favors the latter as the VP is "in charge" during the certification process.
My own thinking here is that Trump is ineligible to hold any Federal office with the actual events and the numbers of people convicted for their actions under Trump's direction/banner.
I'd like to discuss how such a ban would be implemented.
You're irrelevant...Irrelevant.
As are your reading disabilities.
Wow! Stellar! I never once heard of this 14th Amendment option available to the Progressive Jihadists.Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
First, the Ballots
I don't see anything in the text that calls for, permits, or forbids removing a person's name from the ballots. In the primaries this is solely a State decision and in the General this still falls to the states although Federal jurisdiction may be inferred via the VRA.
I don't see that SCOTUS has any jurisdiction in the primary prospect and its jurisdiction in the General is "iffy."
Certification at the State
This is the first place I see that Trump could be excluded. State legislatures, under the 14th, could refuse to certify a Trump win and decide to submit a different slate of electors or no electors at all.
The Congress
One of three places Trump could be declared an insurrectionist. Courts, and State Legislatures being the others. My reading says that a majority of each House, any State legislature, or any Federal court has the authority to declare Trump an insurrectionist at which time Trump can only enter any Federal office, elected or not, upon a 2/3 vote of each house of Congress.
Not sure how it would work in the Congress. Would each House hold a separate vote as to whether Trump is an insurrectionist? Would the VP declare Trump ineligible and the collective Congress vote?
My thinking favors the latter as the VP is "in charge" during the certification process.
My own thinking here is that Trump is ineligible to hold any Federal office with the actual events and the numbers of people convicted for their actions under Trump's direction/banner.
I'd like to discuss how such a ban would be implemented.
Irrelevant.Translation: Trump is not only leading the national polls but is either tied or ahead in every single swing state. If we give Biden all of the ties, Trump wins and you are terrified to your bones.
Wow - I was hoping we could have a 300th thread on this topic rather than just continuing to discuss on the other 299 threads here.Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
First, the Ballots
I don't see anything in the text that calls for, permits, or forbids removing a person's name from the ballots. In the primaries this is solely a State decision and in the General this still falls to the states although Federal jurisdiction may be inferred via the VRA.
I don't see that SCOTUS has any jurisdiction in the primary prospect and its jurisdiction in the General is "iffy."
Certification at the State
This is the first place I see that Trump could be excluded. State legislatures, under the 14th, could refuse to certify a Trump win and decide to submit a different slate of electors or no electors at all.
The Congress
One of three places Trump could be declared an insurrectionist. Courts, and State Legislatures being the others. My reading says that a majority of each House, any State legislature, or any Federal court has the authority to declare Trump an insurrectionist at which time Trump can only enter any Federal office, elected or not, upon a 2/3 vote of each house of Congress.
Not sure how it would work in the Congress. Would each House hold a separate vote as to whether Trump is an insurrectionist? Would the VP declare Trump ineligible and the collective Congress vote?
My thinking favors the latter as the VP is "in charge" during the certification process.
My own thinking here is that Trump is ineligible to hold any Federal office with the actual events and the numbers of people convicted for their actions under Trump's direction/banner.
I'd like to discuss how such a ban would be implemented.
Write in votes aren't valid in many states.They can remove everybody from the ballots if they want. Let them.
WE THE PEOPLE have the RIGHT to write in on the ballot ANYBODY we choose. And there's NOTHING they can do about that!