Trump Called His Generals a ‘Bunch of Dopes and Babies’ in a Fit of Rage, Book Claims

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    And Trump is SO RIGHT!
    Read the rest of the article and you'll understand how when people like Trump who is use to success find the military leadership wanting!

    Trump Called His Generals a ‘Bunch of Dopes and Babies’ in a Fit of Rage, Book Claims

    Consider this one example of military leaders who Trump has labeled as a "Bunch of Dopes"!

    “It is no accident nor a coincidence that from January 2009 to August of 2010, coinciding with the Obama/McChrystal radical change of the ROE, casualties more than doubled,” Simmons went on. “The carnage will certainly continue as the already fragile and ineffective [rules] have been further weakened by the Obama administration as if they were playground rules.”
    Here is one of the ROEs that caused casualties.
    A laminated card ROE with the following text was distributed to all U.S. Army and Marine personnel in Iraq.
    Policies about limiting civilian casualties have soldiers complaining they can't effectively fight; one showed author Michael Hastings a card with regulations including:
    "Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force."
    For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, that’s like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he won’t have to make arrests.
    “Does that make any f–king sense?” Pfc. Jared Pautsch.
    In Afghanistan, a New General -- But An Old Strategy
     
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    Only fire when fired upon.

    If the enemy is retreating...........you are not allowed to follow them........


    Other INSANE ROE's..............not to mention that they can't kill spotters of IED's on the radio either.......sitting there waiting to set off an IED.........

    More of the INSANE ways political asshats restrict the men on the ground.
     
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    "I know more about ISIS than the generals do." (November 2015.)

    sure you do Alabama Hurricane Boi - SURE YOU DO !

    :auiqs.jpg:
     
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    Trump Called His Generals a ‘Bunch of Dopes and Babies’ Can you blame him? How else do you explain the fact we are still fighting in the Middle East for over 18 years with no end in sight ? Does not sound like the Generals are doing their jobs
     
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    It is the PC world and ways of fighting a War that has stuck us there this long.

    This entire War could have been over in less than 6 months.

    But to do so........WOULD BE BRUTAL.........no nukes but pound their sorry asses into the ground......and say this is what happens when you Fuck with the United States.

    Would have been cheaper.........lasted a short time.......and the middle east would be worried about what we would do to them next if they didn't knock it off.


    Oh......sorry........forgot this is about going to War with a bunch of lame ass Rules.......please proceed on how to lose a War folks.
     
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    Having spent eight years in DoD (3 military), and spent a lot of time reviewing and processing Officer Efficiency Reports, I can say that simply rising to the level of a General in the Army (and I presume it's the same in the other services) is no sure indication of anything good.

    Many, if not most, of the most successful officers (based on minimum time in grade) are nothing more than professional bureaucrats and ass-kissers, with few true leadership traits and no great intelligence. In my experience, West Point grads are generally pretty good, and those from the quasi-service academies (e.g., VMI, The Citadel) are also good, but the ROTC types (the vast majority of officers) were rarely impressive.

    As Trump has noted, if I'm looking for the truth about a situation in the Field, I'd rather get my Information from senior NCO's than the commanding general.
     
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