True story about wait times in U.S.

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    Had to share this having just got off the phone trying to schedule an appointment. I, like most, am not opposed to reforming the system. But doing so can't be addressed without addressing the need for a greater supply of doctors.

    My personal example: My medical condition requires me to have yearly check ups from about 4 different specialists. I called to today to schedule appointments for 2, hopefully by some miracle on the same day so i don't have to take extra time off of work, The first is requiring me to see him so that before he will refill my prescription. Minor problem. I can't see him for TWO MONTHS. It gets better. The second specialist is not available for 4 MONTHS. This is something that needs to be resolved.

    The problem with the plans on the table is that it is attempting to address this issue of cost, which does need to be addressed. But it doesn't focus at all on access. Two concepts that the left can't seem to differentiate between. It's basic econ folks. If all you address is reducing cost, demand goes up. That will exacerbate the issue of actual access not improve it. I wonder how long I would have to wait under Obamacare.
     
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    What you experienced has been a problem for at least a decade in the US.

    Long waits to get into to see most doctors.

    Why would you be equating something that has long been a problem with president Obama or healthcare reform? Would be the first question I would ask.

    Secondly a small amount of money was put in the stimulus bill ( AKA recovery act) to provide scholarships for doctors and medical personnel.

    Thirdly that is part of the medical health reform bill being proposed now to provide tuition breaks to people willing to become doctors, nurses and medical professionals.

    The health care reform will take a few years to implement. The hope is that by that time we will have just started to fill the gap in the shortage of medical personnel in this nation that has long been a problem.

    But let me ask you another question.

    Are you saying that if you had to wait a bit longer to see a doctor because everybody in the nation had medical care that you would prefer to deny millions of people health care so you wouldn't have to wait?

    If so that paints a pretty clear picture of your morality.
     
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    This is a problem in delivery. This would be better handled in a multi-specialist type of setting such as a clinic run by a hospital rather than piecemeal through private practitioners. You'd get better care going through the government.

    The disjoint mess we have now is ridiculous.
     
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    The problem is right there. A SMALL amount of money to tackle what needs to be tackled first while a relatively small problem has been given crisis status (the uninsurred)


    The answer in the form of of a question; what good is coverage without sufficient access?
     
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    You'd be right except for the fact that THAT'S EXACTLEY WHAT I'M DOING NOW. The hospital I am treated it has more specialists under one roof than you can imagine.
     
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    Where are you?
     
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    Circa 45 million uninsured is according to you a 'relatively small problem'?

    Allow me to muster a bitter laugh ...
     
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    I have a question

    If you have cancer and need chemo treatments but can't afford it and have no insurance, can you still get the treatments? And if so, how?
     
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    You'd do it by depleting all your assets and going on welfare and getting medicaid. So if you're homeless and don't have transportation or any visible means of support you might get treatment.
     
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