"Tone Deaf.."Nancy Lanza, mother of Conn. school gunman, was "big, big gun fan"

[healthmyths]

Why would any mother teach her mentally unstable son how to use firearms? Not only use - but proficiently use. Also, she obviously did not keep them secured.

AND YOU are right! NO one with his mental issues should be and she was wrong!
NO question about that... and you may then be right.. Both of them should have been committed!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I'm confused how this makes any of the pro-gun's supporters' point? She was a gun nut and she was a victim of gun violence by her own guns? So that's a positive for pro-gun lunatics because? I mean obviously she was a gun nut, how else did her son know how to use them so efficiently and rack up such a high body count?

He racked up a high body count because he went after 6 year old's. All conveniently housed unprotected in secure rooms for him to line them up and kill them. Even an illiterate with a gun could manage that.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

I'm confused how this makes any of the pro-gun's supporters' point? She was a gun nut and she was a victim of gun violence by her own guns? So that's a positive for pro-gun lunatics because? I mean obviously she was a gun nut, how else did her son know how to use them so efficiently and rack up such a high body count?

He racked up a high body count because he went after 6 year old's. All conveniently housed unprotected in secure rooms for him to line them up and kill them. Even an illiterate with a gun could manage that.

You think someone who wasn't experienced with guns would be able to perpetrate a killing spree like this?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I'm confused how this makes any of the pro-gun's supporters' point? She was a gun nut and she was a victim of gun violence by her own guns? So that's a positive for pro-gun lunatics because? I mean obviously she was a gun nut, how else did her son know how to use them so efficiently and rack up such a high body count?

He racked up a high body count because he went after 6 year old's. All conveniently housed unprotected in secure rooms for him to line them up and kill them. Even an illiterate with a gun could manage that.

You think someone who wasn't experienced with guns would be able to perpetrate a killing spree like this?

Yes. All it takes is the desire, using an ar-15 is pretty self evident. As are hand guns. And he went after 6 year old's, they are going to do what ever he tells them to do once the teachers are gone. Think about it they laid there while he put 10 rounds into some of them and no one ran.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

He racked up a high body count because he went after 6 year old's. All conveniently housed unprotected in secure rooms for him to line them up and kill them. Even an illiterate with a gun could manage that.

You think someone who wasn't experienced with guns would be able to perpetrate a killing spree like this?

Yes. All it takes is the desire, using an ar-15 is pretty self evident. As are hand guns. And he went after 6 year old's, they are going to do what ever he tells them to do once the teachers are gone. Think about it they laid there while he put 10 rounds into some of them and no one ran.

Someone who isn't proficient in guns isn't going to be able to load, handle and aim a gun, not to mention two pistols and an assault rifle and hit 27 people, let alone 27 targets. This argument is utterly retarded. Point to a killing spree where the murderer didn't have a prior proficiency with guns.

 

[Black_Label]

And so Bill Clinton and "tone deaf" LaPierre and all people that support police in school are delusional nut cases?

So what you are saying is that Clinton is just as big of a hero as LaPierre is?

What I am saying is this is a perfect example of the TOTALLY BIASED AGENDA DRIVEN MSM decrying the "tone deaf" LaPierre while ignoring the $120 million Clinton allocated for the SAME purpose that LaPierre is being accused of "tone deafness"!

Is that way to complicated for you to understand?

Let me simplify: Clinton wanted spend $120 million to put police in schools. LaPierre wants the same thing! Complicated???
But the MSM ONLY called LaPierre "tone deaf" and NO mention of Clinton's $120 million for police in schools!

I see,...So you support Clinton and LaPierre, but are bitching that "da lib MSM" isn't supporting it as well, so you are going to bitch about it.

I bet if Obama did propose such a legislation as LaPierre calls for, you'd be bitching up a storm that Obama is a "socialist/marxist/communist/muslim that wants to turn the nation into a police state and spend even more money that we don't have!"

 

[healthmyths]

So what you are saying is that Clinton is just as big of a hero as LaPierre is?

What I am saying is this is a perfect example of the TOTALLY BIASED AGENDA DRIVEN MSM decrying the "tone deaf" LaPierre while ignoring the $120 million Clinton allocated for the SAME purpose that LaPierre is being accused of "tone deafness"!

Is that way to complicated for you to understand?

Let me simplify: Clinton wanted spend $120 million to put police in schools. LaPierre wants the same thing! Complicated???
But the MSM ONLY called LaPierre "tone deaf" and NO mention of Clinton's $120 million for police in schools!

I see,...So you support Clinton and LaPierre, but are bitching that "da lib MSM" isn't supporting it as well, so you are going to bitch about it.

I bet if Obama did propose such a legislation as LaPierre calls for, you'd be bitching up a storm that Obama is a "socialist/marxist/communist/muslim that wants to turn the nation into a police state and spend even more money that we don't have!"

Keep on topic! The point is MSM bias is glaringly illustrated by totally slamming LaPierre, but LETTING CLINTON"S $120 million slide!

That's the point! And as a result idiots like you support banning of all guns! And as a result the signs stating "NO GUNS on School property" pretty well identified sitting kids!
AND YOU have NO problem with a fire extinguisher in the school just in case there is a fire... BUT a armed guard or teacher qualified to carry.. OH NO!!!
The point is YOU and other MSM lead with rings through you noses to chant the cliched idiotic "ban all guns" haven't thought it through! You feel in warmy feely bromides!

Biased MSM has been leading our country down a path of destruction and this is just one more path!

 

[alan1]

It is looking beyond all doubt that she was a radical right wing, brainwashed Beck idiot.

Yep, just like all people that own guns.
Yawn

Not all are, but you are entitled to your opinion.

And you are entitled to your finger paints.

 

[Black_Label]

What I am saying is this is a perfect example of the TOTALLY BIASED AGENDA DRIVEN MSM decrying the "tone deaf" LaPierre while ignoring the $120 million Clinton allocated for the SAME purpose that LaPierre is being accused of "tone deafness"!

Is that way to complicated for you to understand?

Let me simplify: Clinton wanted spend $120 million to put police in schools. LaPierre wants the same thing! Complicated???
But the MSM ONLY called LaPierre "tone deaf" and NO mention of Clinton's $120 million for police in schools!

I see,...So you support Clinton and LaPierre, but are bitching that "da lib MSM" isn't supporting it as well, so you are going to bitch about it.

I bet if Obama did propose such a legislation as LaPierre calls for, you'd be bitching up a storm that Obama is a "socialist/marxist/communist/muslim that wants to turn the nation into a police state and spend even more money that we don't have!"

Keep on topic! The point is MSM bias is glaringly illustrated by totally slamming LaPierre, but LETTING CLINTON"S $120 million slide!

That's the point! And as a result idiots like you support banning of all guns! And as a result the signs stating "NO GUNS on School property" pretty well identified sitting kids!
AND YOU have NO problem with a fire extinguisher in the school just in case there is a fire... BUT a armed guard or teacher qualified to carry.. OH NO!!!
The point is YOU and other MSM lead with rings through you noses to chant the cliched idiotic "ban all guns" haven't thought it through! You feel in warmy feely bromides!

Biased MSM has been leading our country down a path of destruction and this is just one more path!

You should look into seeking treatment at a mental institution, the Beck/fox/limbaugh propaganda has severely warped your brain,...

 

[alan1]

I'm confused how this makes any of the pro-gun's supporters' point? She was a gun nut and she was a victim of gun violence by her own guns? So that's a positive for pro-gun lunatics because? I mean obviously she was a gun nut, how else did her son know how to use them so efficiently and rack up such a high body count?

He racked up a high body count because he went after 6 year old's. All conveniently housed unprotected in secure rooms for him to line them up and kill them. Even an illiterate with a gun could manage that.

You think someone who wasn't experienced with guns would be able to perpetrate a killing spree like this?

Yes.
A 20 year old with a knife could kill just as many kids because they were six year old kids.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You think someone who wasn't experienced with guns would be able to perpetrate a killing spree like this?

Yes. All it takes is the desire, using an ar-15 is pretty self evident. As are hand guns. And he went after 6 year old's, they are going to do what ever he tells them to do once the teachers are gone. Think about it they laid there while he put 10 rounds into some of them and no one ran.

Someone who isn't proficient in guns isn't going to be able to load, handle and aim a gun, not to mention two pistols and an assault rifle and hit 27 people, let alone 27 targets. This argument is utterly retarded. Point to a killing spree where the murderer didn't have a prior proficiency with guns.

You are beyond stupid. The children laid on the floor for him to shoot one at a time. No proficiency needed. The adults were taken one and 2 at a time, again all he needed was a basic knowledge of how the weapon worked.

The controlling thing in this whole mess was HIS desire to see it through. 6 women weren't gonna stop him. Most taken singly in rooms waiting for him to come shoot them. No skill was needed, he just stood over the children and pumped rounds into them while they lay there helpless.

 

[paperview]

And so Bill Clinton and "tone deaf" LaPierre and all people that support police in school are delusional nut cases?

So what you are saying is that Clinton is just as big of a hero as LaPierre is?

What I am saying is this is a perfect example of the TOTALLY BIASED AGENDA DRIVEN MSM decrying the "tone deaf" LaPierre while ignoring the $120 million Clinton allocated for the SAME purpose that LaPierre is being accused of "tone deafness"!

Is that way to complicated for you to understand?

Let me simplify: Clinton wanted spend $120 million to put police in schools. LaPierre wants the same thing! Complicated???
But the MSM ONLY called LaPierre "tone deaf" and NO mention of Clinton's $120 million for police in schools!

It was not*the same thing.*

The COPS in School program [Community Oriented Policing Services] was started in 1994, and of course the republicans HATED the idea. It was even part of the reason they <flashback> wanted to shut down the government.

Yeah, they hated it alright, and Bush, on taking office, promptly shut it down. Obama started it back up again when he took office. And it was nothing at all like what Crazy Wayne and the NRA has suggested as of late.

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/files/ric...t/AGuidetoDevelopingMaintainingSucceeding.pdf

From your link:

"These districts are bringing school nurses and counselors together to respond to warning signs like depression or bullying," Clinton said. "They are improving classroom security and expanding after-school and mentoring programs."

Clinton announced $40 million in grants for 23 school districts that he said have found successful, comprehensive approaches to help troubled young people.

"These districts are bringing school nurses and counselors together to respond to warning signs like depression or bullying," Clinton said. "They are improving classroom security and expanding after-school and mentoring programs."

Clinton also unveiled the $60-million fifth round of funding for "COPS in School," a Justice Department program that helps pay the costs of placing police officers in schools to help make them safer for students and teachers. The money will be used to provide 452 officers in schools in more than 220 communities.

"Already, it has placed 2,200 officers in more than 1,000 communities across our nation, where they are heightening school safety as well as coaching sports and acting as mentors and mediators for kids in need," Clinton said.

Clinton Pledges Funds to Add Police to Schools - Los Angeles Times

 

[paperview]

Congress rejuvenates Clinton-era cop program

Obama allocated $1 billion in budget for community policing initiative

updated 4/22/2009 12:01:17 PM ET <-----

WASHINGTON &#8212; A community policing program that President Bill Clinton created and President George W. Bush tried to curtail is making a strong comeback under the new Democratic administration.


The economic stimulus package enacted in February provided $1 billion to expand the Community Oriented Policing Services grant program, known as COPS. On Wednesday, the House is likely to pass a bill approving additional money for 50,000 new beat cops nationwide over the next five years.


For police departments grappling with hiring freezes and layoffs because of the weak economy, the COPS revival comes just in time.

And it was more about education and building trust in the community, not about slapping a weapon on and marching the halls.

The original Clinton plan, enacted as part of a crime bill in 1994, envisioned hiring 100,000 police officers who would walk the streets, visit the schools and get to know the communities they were policing. The federal government paid 75 percent of the cost for three years, with a salary and benefit cap of $75,000 per officer.

Congress rejuvenates Clinton-era cop program - politics - Capitol Hill | NBC News

It also included money for police departments to buy computers and other new equipment. And you know what? It's been successful, for the most part, and also helped contribute to the decline in violent crime during the years it was implemented.

Those SRO's people here are talking about that are 'in their school already' are in large part there because of the democrats working to help put them there, through the COPS in School program.

And republicans fighting them every inch of the way.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

Yes. All it takes is the desire, using an ar-15 is pretty self evident. As are hand guns. And he went after 6 year old's, they are going to do what ever he tells them to do once the teachers are gone. Think about it they laid there while he put 10 rounds into some of them and no one ran.

Someone who isn't proficient in guns isn't going to be able to load, handle and aim a gun, not to mention two pistols and an assault rifle and hit 27 people, let alone 27 targets. This argument is utterly retarded. Point to a killing spree where the murderer didn't have a prior proficiency with guns.

You are beyond stupid. The children laid on the floor for him to shoot one at a time. No proficiency needed. The adults were taken one and 2 at a time, again all he needed was a basic knowledge of how the weapon worked.

The controlling thing in this whole mess was HIS desire to see it through. 6 women weren't gonna stop him. Most taken singly in rooms waiting for him to come shoot them. No skill was needed, he just stood over the children and pumped rounds into them while they lay there helpless.

...So you can't cite a shooting spree where the killer wasn't proficient in guns before hand and you're just going to keep saying the same retarded thing despite you having no evidence to back up your assertions? Thought so, shut the fuck up.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

He racked up a high body count because he went after 6 year old's. All conveniently housed unprotected in secure rooms for him to line them up and kill them. Even an illiterate with a gun could manage that.

You think someone who wasn't experienced with guns would be able to perpetrate a killing spree like this?

Yes.
A 20 year old with a knife could kill just as many kids because they were six year old kids.

That's not the argument and I could potentially impregnate every woman on the planet.

 

[Pogo]

I'm confused how this makes any of the pro-guns supporters' point? She was a gun nut and she was a victim of gun violence by her own guns? So that's a positive for pro-gun lunatics because? I mean obviously she was a gun nut, how else did her son know how to use them so efficiently and rack up such a high body count?

Damn. You beat me to the game of "State the Obvious".

Why would you want this part of the Newtown story suppressed? Is it embarrassing?

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, and she was also apparently a doomsday prepper.

Sounds as if Bill Clinton believed as she did!!!

Marking the first anniversary of the
shooting deaths at Columbine High School, President Clinton announced $120 million in new federal grants Saturday to place more police officers in schools and

Bill Clinton Calls for Armed Guards at Schools : 4yourcountry

You understand there's a difference between a President proposing a policy and a Foaming at the Mouth Gun Industry Shill proposing something impractical because he doesn't want his masters to have any accountability, right?

Simple solution- make it legal to sue gun shops and gun makers when they act irresponsibly.

They'll police themselves pretty quickly after that.

 

[healthmyths]

Yes, and she was also apparently a doomsday prepper.

Sounds as if Bill Clinton believed as she did!!!

Marking the first anniversary of the
shooting deaths at Columbine High School, President Clinton announced $120 million in new federal grants Saturday to place more police officers in schools and

Bill Clinton Calls for Armed Guards at Schools : 4yourcountry

You understand there's a difference between a President proposing a policy and a Foaming at the Mouth Gun Industry Shill proposing something impractical because he doesn't want his masters to have any accountability, right?

Simple solution- make it legal to sue gun shops and gun makers when they act irresponsibly.

They'll police themselves pretty quickly after that.

Only Monica could say if Clinton ever "foamed" at the mouth!

 

[Mad Scientist]

Nancy Lanza.

Big Gun Fan.


Never killed anyone.

 

[JoeB131]

Nancy Lanza.

Big Gun Fan.


Never killed anyone.

Left guns around her psychotic child... He killed 27 people.