Tim Kaine

[Iceweasel]

OMG OMG OMG. Hillary doesn't want to win. Why would she pick a sure loser? With all the baggage he has? The thing with the preschooler? Yuck. OMG OMG OMG.

Go on?

Well, an unnamed source in an op-ed in some newspaper said he believed that he overhead someone say something about Kaine molesting a little kid. How could you vote for him?

If an unnamed source in an op-ed in some newspaper said it, then it must be true

Now you're getting it. Congrats.

 

[Iceweasel]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

 

[Agit8r]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

Call it what you like. The business community is against it.

What Trade Really Means for Pennsylvania and Ohio | U.S. Chamber of Commerce

 

[NYcarbineer]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

The Republicans as a party are the party of free trade and the pro-free trade agreements party.

 

[Iceweasel]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

Call it what you like. The business community is against it.

What Trade Really Means for Pennsylvania and Ohio | U.S. Chamber of Commerce

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

 

[Iceweasel]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

The Republicans as a party are the party of free trade and the pro-free trade agreements party.

Billy signed NAFTA into law. And free trade doesn't mean bad trade. If we do what they do to us maybe they will stop what they do to us?

 

[Agit8r]

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

What are you trying to say? The CoC is a government agency?

 

[NYcarbineer]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

So you think Trump needed to trump up his base ??

His base is SOL without him.

Trump needs to sweep the swing states.

Pence won't help with that at all.

That's what I said, above and in the other post. Moderates are the swing vote.

Kerry won Moderates by 9 points in 2004, and still lost.

Obama won Moderates by 20 points in 2008, and by 15 points in 2012, and of course won both times.

 

[NYcarbineer]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

The Republicans as a party are the party of free trade and the pro-free trade agreements party.

Billy signed NAFTA into law. And free trade doesn't mean bad trade. If we do what they do to us maybe they will stop what they do to us?

Most Democrats in Congress voted against NAFTA, a fact long lost to most people.

 

[NYcarbineer]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

The Republicans as a party are the party of free trade and the pro-free trade agreements party.

Billy signed NAFTA into law. And free trade doesn't mean bad trade. If we do what they do to us maybe they will stop what they do to us?

Pence is a free trader, although he'll probably fudge that now that he's owned by Trump.

 

[Agit8r]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

The Republicans as a party are the party of free trade and the pro-free trade agreements party.

Billy signed NAFTA into law. And free trade doesn't mean bad trade. If we do what they do to us maybe they will stop what they do to us?

Pence is a free trader, although he'll probably fudge that now that he's owned by Trump.

Nah. Pence would push through the TPP, and then Trump would tell his useful idiots that he made "the best deal"

 

[Wry Catcher]

We now know who the next VP will be, Time Kaine.

Let the beatings begin.

I hear Tim Kaine likes to wear women's underwear, and his breath stinks. He also claims to be a Christian, and no doubt thinks the earth is only 6000 years old, almost as old as Hillary. Hillary's teeth alone have been carbon dated at 8000 years old, but Kaine simply scoffs as such science. Tim also believes that abortion is murder, but is OK with the Dim platform of murder on demand. In other words, Tim has no real conviction about right and wrong, a perfect fit for Hilldog.

Next.

The first of many efforts to assassinate Sen. Kaine's character, and a complete and utter failure. Considering the source, it was inevitable.

 

[Iceweasel]

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

What are you trying to say? The CoC is a government agency?

They are lobbyists.


US Chamber of Commerce: Summary | OpenSecrets

Right To Rise PAC $21,000 $21,000 $0

Bush, Jeb $14,850 $14,850 $0

Rubio, Marco $6,725 $6,725 $0

Cruz, Ted $5,400 $5,400 $0

Clinton, Hillary $5,265 $5,265 $0

Right To Rise USA $4,415 $4,415 $0

National Republican Congressional Cmte $2,500 $2,500 $0

Grassley, Chuck $2,000 $2,000 $0

Goodlatte, Bob $1,500 $1,500 $0

Gillespie, Ed $1,000 $1,000 $0

McCarthy, Kevin $1,000 $1,000 $0

 

[Iceweasel]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

The Republicans as a party are the party of free trade and the pro-free trade agreements party.

Billy signed NAFTA into law. And free trade doesn't mean bad trade. If we do what they do to us maybe they will stop what they do to us?

Pence is a free trader, although he'll probably fudge that now that he's owned by Trump.

All VP candidates adopt the the nominee's policies. Why would this be different? It would make no sense to have opposing views on the same ticket.

 

[LoneLaugher]

45% of American voters identify as Moderates. Kaine is a moderate.

35% of American voters identify as Conservative. Pence is extremely conservative.

Politically, demographically, therefore, all else being equal, Hillary Clinton made the better choice.

Right. One can't say that the GOP is more pro-business this cycle. That argument is out the window. Their rhetoric now is about restricting trade, and closed borders.

Huh? Better trade deals and enforcing immigration laws is restricting trade? See the bullshit one must swallow to be a lefty? Come on dude, wake up.

Call it what you like. The business community is against it.

What Trade Really Means for Pennsylvania and Ohio | U.S. Chamber of Commerce

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

Say what?

I think you might be relying on ignorance as your knowledge base.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

What are you trying to say? The CoC is a government agency?

Yes. That's what he's trying to say.

Fun, isn't he?

 

[FJO]

Kaine makes Hillary ABEL to win. If Kaine fails, Hillary will raise cane.

And let's remember what Cain did to Abel.

 

[Agit8r]

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

What are you trying to say? The CoC is a government agency?

They are lobbyists.


US Chamber of Commerce: Summary | OpenSecrets

Right To Rise PAC $21,000 $21,000 $0

Bush, Jeb $14,850 $14,850 $0

Rubio, Marco $6,725 $6,725 $0

Cruz, Ted $5,400 $5,400 $0

Clinton, Hillary $5,265 $5,265 $0

Right To Rise USA $4,415 $4,415 $0

National Republican Congressional Cmte $2,500 $2,500 $0

Grassley, Chuck $2,000 $2,000 $0

Goodlatte, Bob $1,500 $1,500 $0

Gillespie, Ed $1,000 $1,000 $0

McCarthy, Kevin $1,000 $1,000 $0

Yes. Do you know what a lobbying group is?

 

[Iceweasel]

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

What are you trying to say? The CoC is a government agency?

They are lobbyists.


US Chamber of Commerce: Summary | OpenSecrets

Right To Rise PAC $21,000 $21,000 $0

Bush, Jeb $14,850 $14,850 $0

Rubio, Marco $6,725 $6,725 $0

Cruz, Ted $5,400 $5,400 $0

Clinton, Hillary $5,265 $5,265 $0

Right To Rise USA $4,415 $4,415 $0

National Republican Congressional Cmte $2,500 $2,500 $0

Grassley, Chuck $2,000 $2,000 $0

Goodlatte, Bob $1,500 $1,500 $0

Gillespie, Ed $1,000 $1,000 $0

McCarthy, Kevin $1,000 $1,000 $0

Yes. Do you know what a lobbying group is?

Do you? They are in bed with politicians and make law for the rest of us.

 

[Agit8r]

The Chamber of Commerce is the business community? You dipshit, that's the government!

What are you trying to say? The CoC is a government agency?

They are lobbyists.


US Chamber of Commerce: Summary | OpenSecrets

Right To Rise PAC $21,000 $21,000 $0

Bush, Jeb $14,850 $14,850 $0

Rubio, Marco $6,725 $6,725 $0

Cruz, Ted $5,400 $5,400 $0

Clinton, Hillary $5,265 $5,265 $0

Right To Rise USA $4,415 $4,415 $0

National Republican Congressional Cmte $2,500 $2,500 $0

Grassley, Chuck $2,000 $2,000 $0

Goodlatte, Bob $1,500 $1,500 $0

Gillespie, Ed $1,000 $1,000 $0

McCarthy, Kevin $1,000 $1,000 $0

Yes. Do you know what a lobbying group is?

Do you? They are in bed with politicians and make law for the rest of us.

Well first off, they don't do the bidding of politicians. They try to influence politicians to make policies that are favorable to the interests that they represent. The CoC broadly represents the business community in the United States. So when they call for things like comprehensive immigration reform, or free trade agreements, they are exerting pressure on behalf of business.