Threshold for shamelessness

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    The statement attributed to Obama that "you did not get there on your own" and incorporated into a mitt ad is without doubt probably one of the more shameful things Mitt has done. It is clipped out, totally out of context and totally misleading. The definition of a lie. It is not the most shameful but it is a part of the pile.

    It is particularly vile because Mitt is criticizing the president for the very thing he himself has said in his campaign speeches. It may be the ultimate flip flop when one flips on the exact verbiage used in your own speeches.

    The folks on this board have certainly lapped it up and we cannot not know that it is not a lie. That is the question Maddow asks. Where does it all end? At what point are the candidates brought up short and made responsible for outright lies? At what point do we, their supporters begin, to wretch in disgust?

    Apparently everyone finds this A OK, shucking their moral responsibility and what few principles remain with the standard statement of "They do it too!", as if that is the ultimate disclaimer for reprehensible acts.

    As the old saying went, "We have met the enemy and they are us". We don't seem to mind that we are sinking to ever greater depths to gain our own advantage, perhaps thinking that when it is all over and we have won we can climb out of the slime as shining examples of virtue.

    Nope the slime stays. It is hard to govern a whole nation when only half will forgive your immorality

    Maddow blasts Romney for ‘brazenly empirically false’ ads | The Raw Story.
     
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    he did nearly the same thing earlier in his campaign.

    mitt lies for political gain.

    its what he does
     
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    On the other hand, when taken in context, it's worse for Obama. The entire speech was shameful and deserves to be made an example of the stark difference between Obama's collectivist thinking and the way most Americans treasure individual accomplishment.
     
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    Well, I most certainly didn't get to 15 Trillion Dollar deficits on my own either. I'm thinking the Gov't might of helped out a little there.
     
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    Get used to hearing from him.

    He's your next president.

    Moron.
     
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    Doesn't everyone? They couldn't do it without us. They couldn't do it without the media. They couldn't do it without the two tier moral system we have.

    I always found it odd that the more one shouts for virtue the more corruption is permitted in quest of that virtue
     
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    Here is Ezra Klien whining about the ad.

    Mitt Romney’s misleading attack ad

    This is Ezra "I've got my head so far up Chris Matthews Ass, his dick has my face on it" Klein.

    His case is pathetic and meaningless. He's crying foul where there isn't one.

    Obama said it....Get over it.

    BTW: Ezra, they didn't edit anything. They quoted what they quoted in full. You lying bastard. You are the one who is misleading people.
     
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    The speech, taken without alteration ,is almost identical in content to speeches made by Romney.

    I am not talking about unedited speeches. We are talking about editing speeches into fairy tales that never happened. Plain and simple lies.

    If the speech is such a bad example it should need no editing.
     
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    is he a felon?
     
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    It's wrong for "We the People" to ever think in terms of 'we' instead of 'me'?

    Show us where the context makes it worse for Obama, or shut up and go away.
     

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