Three Soleimani Questions

[tycho1572]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

Location: Los Angeles. smh

Are you here in hopes that the responses will fix your fucked up ways of thinking?

 

[MisterBeale]

I Saw Qasem Soleimani's Brand of Evil Firsthand — It's Worse Than You Could Possibly Imagine

This is akin to saying that the top guy in charge of the CIA, Richard Helms, at the time of the Mỹ Lai Massacre, was personally responsible for it.

Just because troops are associated with a command structure, does not mean the guy at the top is responsible for all the war crimes committed by them.

Grow up and stop falling for war propaganda.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

How many Muslim civilians have US generals killed since 2001?

So much mourning for such an evil man.

 

[boedicca]

Salami is a thug. He's now a dead thug. Nobody cares about that damn terrorist regime

How many US civilians did Soleimani kill?
Was it more than the number of Iraqi children offed by Tommy Franks?

How many civilians did Soleimani kill?

Far more more than Trump, and probably more than Obabble.

 

[georgephillip]

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Who would you call?

Too late?

 

[georgephillip]

I Saw Qasem Soleimani's Brand of Evil Firsthand — It's Worse Than You Could Possibly Imagine

Imagine that.

 

[jknowgood]

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Who would you call?

Too late?

Would you call Trump or Hillary if you were in a situation over there. Simple question.

 

[MisterBeale]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

This article is disingenuous, as are most of the responses you are getting. Everyone underestimates Iran, and dehumanizes them

Most folks, but mostly the neo-cons, and the anti-war folks do not get that this analogy IS NOT applicable.

Do you even understand what the Quds force is?

It is hypocritical for the U.S., and European allies to label them a terrorist group, when we do the same shit with our special OPS and clandestine services all the damn time. The only reason we label our enemies from other nations that do that with Russia or China? They are too big and economically powerful to get away with it.

Now, to really understand what is going on, you must understand who this guy really was.

U.S. Army's Iraq War General Stanley McChrystal describes the Quds Force as an organization roughly analogous to a combination of the CIA and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the United States.[5] Responsible for extraterritorial operations,[6] the Quds Force supports non-state actors in many countries, including Lebanese Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Yemeni Houthis, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.[6]
Quds Force - Wikipedia

IOW, this guy WAS NOT just a high ranking prestigious military general, he was a SPOOK, a glorified spy. If I remember correctly? We had this shit going on with the Soviets during the cold war all the damn time. They captured one of ours, we captured one of theirs. They killed one of ours, we killed one of theirs.

This is not like "assassinating an archduke," it is more like killing the head of a spy agency after they have successfully pulled off multiple operations against your nation.

Have you not been paying attention? Do you not remember all the back and forth about these oil tankers? Or those suspicious attacks that could never be proven, some said it was Iran, others said it was a false flag, etc? IOW, THE WORK OF SPIES.

Trump and his folks were getting EXTREMELY frustrated and feeling impotent over all that. Who do you think was behind all that?

Only fools do not believe that the Quds force is not behind the arming and training of Shia militia and mercenary groups in Lebanon, Yemen, Syria and Iraq.

Does Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, or the U.S. do any less? Of course not. But let us speak plainly. This is NOT some extraordinary assassination that is beyond the pale. This guy knew the risks. He was the top mastermind, but, he was also training his subordinates in asymmetrical war. It is not like any of this will end with his elimination.

Iran is far superior at this sort of war-craft than anyone. . . save probably Israel.

So, to answer your questions?

Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

Completely inappropriate comparison that misunderstands this guys true role in the conflicts in the middle east.

Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

Mostly, yes. Apparently you hadn't been paying attention to the events that led up to elimination of Qasem Soleimani.

Is Trump trying to provoke Iran, in order to have it precipitate an equivalent response so that he, Trump, can bypass a Congressional vote to go to war he knows he won’t get?

I doubt it. I would bet he is trying to get Iran to come back to the bargaining table to stop production on nuclear weaponry, having a willingness to lift sanctions, yet w/o giving them money to fund clandestine operations throughout the whole of the middle east. REMEMBER, his stated goal had always been to create stability and peace, while pulling American troops out of the theater, something I believe the Iranians also want. Trump's believes in the negotiating tactic of Reagan, from a position of strength, not from a position of begging.

 

[georgephillip]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

The left's attempt to equate the US and terrorists is pathetic.

Can you name another country that has been responsible for the killing, maiming, and displacement of MILLIONS of innocent human beings since the end of WWII?

 

[tycho1572]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

The left's attempt to equate the US and terrorists is pathetic.

Can you name another country that has been responsible for the killing, maiming, and displacement of MILLIONS of innocent human beings since the end of WWII?

Did you vote for this? ….

LA mayor touts $1.2 billion homeless housing project despite blown deadlines and shortfalls

 

[georgephillip]

Our top commander in Europe hasn't carried out any terrorist attacks.

What's your definition of "terrorism?"

war on terrorism | Summary & Facts

 

[gipper]

Why

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

It was totally immoral and outside international law to murder the general.

If he was such a bad guy (a poster here referred to him as another Hitler, yet Americans never heard of him before this), arrest him at the airport and send him to The Hague for trial. That would have been the moral thing to do.

A state Arbitrarily murdering someone is immoral.

 

[georgephillip]

Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’

Don't be silly, President Trump was no where near Italy when it happened.

Maybe's he's lying about that too?

I'm too busy trying to prove he started the Reichstag Fire.

I'm too busy trying to prove he started the Reichstag Fire.

I'm pretty sure this guy did it?

Long shadow over Palestine killing

 

[georgephillip]

What do you love most, killing women or children for Wall Street?

I would never kill women or children, rape the environment, or oppress the workers for Wall Street.

Mostly, I just do it for kicks.

I would never kill women or children, rape the environment, or oppress the workers for Wall Street.

Mostly, I just do it for kicks.

Have you considered a career in politics?

 

[fncceo]

What do you love most, killing women or children for Wall Street?

I would never kill women or children, rape the environment, or oppress the workers for Wall Street.

Mostly, I just do it for kicks.

I would never kill women or children, rape the environment, or oppress the workers for Wall Street.

Mostly, I just do it for kicks.

Have you considered a career in politics?

Nah ... politicians, of both stripes, play too rough.

 

[MisterBeale]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

You are making false comparisons.

Our top commander in Europe hasn't carried out any terrorist attacks.

Why? Because your government controlled and corporate media don't tell you about that sort of stuff?

Bullshit.

It's been revealed that our top commanders in NATO have had a hand in Operation Gladio and suspected of Operation Gladio-B.

As these are clandestine ops?

 

[georgephillip]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

Location: Los Angeles. smh

Are you here in hopes that the responses will fix your fucked up ways of thinking?

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Know Them by the Company They Keep

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

 

[Indeependent]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

How many Muslim civilians have US generals killed since 2001?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

 

[fncceo]

Because your government controlled and corporate media don't tell you about that sort of stuff?

If the government controlled the media, don't you think they would say nicer things about them?

 

[harmonica]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

your post is total bullshit