"Threat Begging" By "Least Developed Nations" Begins Ahead Of Coming Paris Protocol

[Roguewave]

Yet another dread UN sponsored "climate conference" is scheduled in Paris and is designed to forcibly squander trillion$ from the world's productive on various schemes much of which would be by transfer payments to the world's unproductive. In anticipation, the beggars are gearing up the guilt parade springing from their imaginations and designed to resonate with Lefties everywhere to pave the way, and if we do not pony up they are going to hold their collective(ist) breaths until we do.

...the grouping of the world's 47 "least developed" countries said this week that they would want far more money to adapt their economies to climate change than the $100bn a year that been so far proposed by rich countries.

"We will want more than the $100bn to agree to a new Paris protocol," said Quamrul Choudhury, a lead negotiator for the group which includes many African and Asian countries. "On top of that we will want a legal mechanism to compensate for 'loss and damage' [compensation for extreme climate change events]. There should definitely be some space in the [final] treaty for that," he said in London.

He called on rich countries to compromise. "The battle lines are drawn. Everyone wants to defend their country and nobody will give an inch, but everyone has to make some sacrifice or we won't have a deal. We need high-level political commitment to raise ambition."

Choudhury, who is also Bangladesh's climate envoy to the United Nations, met British climate negotiators ahead of the Bonn talks...

"But even if we have an ambitious mitigation target [to cut emissions] adaptation must be the cornerstone of a new treaty. This is not a zero-sum game. If we treat it like that there will be no Paris protocol," he said.

Figueres (UN chief climate swami) later agreed that the $100m proposed in 2009 as compensation for poor countries would not be enough for them to build defences and adapt their economies. "It was a figure plucked from a hat … $100bn is not enough [to meet] the mitigation and not at all for the adaptation costs. The International Energy Agency has suggested it may cost $1 trillion over 25 years just for adaptation. $100bn is a freckle on the map of what needs to be invested."

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...-change-political-christiana-figueres-un[/url

• "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world." - Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment

• "The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe." - Emeritus Professor Daniel Botkin

• “The function of climate change I suggest, is not as a lower-case environmental phenomenon to be solved....It really is not about stopping climate chaos. Instead, we need to see how we can use the idea of climate change...to rethink how we take forward our political, social, economic and personal projects over the decades to come.” Mike Hulme, a professor of climate change

"...vast sums of money will be uselessly spent on programs that won't work against an enemy that doesn't exist.” - Alexander Cockburn in The Nation of all places speaking of Warmists theories, threats and exaggerations

 

[freedombecki]

"Give me something for nothing in a way that I can never have to be called on or pay you back for anything whatever including declaring war, advancing genocide on our own citizens, and mayhem on your citizens for their prosperity."

Wonder why they forgot to put it in terms we can understand. *sigh*

 

[mamooth]

Ah yes, the Great Global Socialist Conspiracy, a staple of denialists.

Of course, people who have the science on their side don't need tinfoil hat theories. It's good to be on the side of reason. To "win", we simply have to point at the data. No conspiracies required.

 

[Roguewave]

If you Warmists are going to "win," you better get busy explaining where the missing heat your theory requires is hiding from the last 17 years.

 

[mamooth]

Is there any debunked denialist mantra you're not going to toss out?

There is a master list. It would be faster if you'd just shout out something like "Number 1!" to cover the Great Global Socialist Conspiracy, "Number 3!" to cover the "There's no warming" big lie, and so on. That would save you keystrokes, and save everyone a lot of time.

 

[Roguewave]

AGW is a quaint little theory that has had nearly two centuries for its adherents to produce proof of its validity. That its proponents during that lenghty period have failed to offer anything beyond anecdotes and computer forecasts which then collapse is off-set in turn by Lindzen's proofs that the earth's energy budget and sub-tropical mid-tropospheric temperatures do things they could not do while the theory’s atmospheric CO2 continuously rises.

“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.” Albert Einstein.

AGW has been proven wrong by the empirical facts, and the propagandists cannot counter the science. Their jihad to capture our freedoms by hoax will ultimately fail as climate events in the fullness of time continue to make a mockery of their efforts. The issue is whether they will collapse economies, ours especially, all over the planet by their efforts, which clearly many in their ranks earnestly wish fondly to do. How many more "Ship Of Fools" stuck in the ice it will take is anybody's guess. In the meantime, the beggars, true believers, crony-capitalists, misanthropes, & hanger-ons are out in force.

If they control your access to energy sources, they have you by the gonads and can jerk you anyway they want.

 

[mamooth]

You understand that was all tinfoil-hat nonsense, right?

Oh wait, you don't. You refuse to step outside of your cult bubble, hence you're never exposed to normal people who will tell you the unpleasant facts.

Yep, it looks like I have to stage another intervention. Rogue, you're acting like a crazy person. Normal people just don't rave about how the entire planet is part of conspiracy against them.

 

[bripat9643]

Is there any debunked denialist mantra you're not going to toss out?

There is a master list. It would be faster if you'd just shout out something like "Number 1!" to cover the Great Global Socialist Conspiracy, "Number 3!" to cover the "There's no warming" big lie, and so on. That would save you keystrokes, and save everyone a lot of time.

The ones that have been debunked are all the AGW cult mantras.

 

[Old Rocks]

AGW is a quaint little theory that has had nearly two centuries for its adherents to produce proof of its validity. That its proponents during that lenghty period have failed to offer anything beyond anecdotes and computer forecasts which then collapse is off-set in turn by Lindzen's proofs that the earth's energy budget and sub-tropical mid-tropospheric temperatures do things they could not do while the theory’s atmospheric CO2 continuously rises.

“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.” Albert Einstein.

AGW has been proven wrong by the empirical facts, and the propagandists cannot counter the science. Their jihad to capture our freedoms by hoax will ultimately fail as climate events in the fullness of time continue to make a mockery of their efforts. The issue is whether they will collapse economies, ours especially, all over the planet by their efforts, which clearly many in their ranks earnestly wish fondly to do. How many more "Ship Of Fools" stuck in the ice it will take is anybody's guess. In the meantime, the beggars, true believers, crony-capitalists, misanthropes, & hanger-ons are out in force.

If they control your access to energy sources, they have you by the gonads and can jerk you anyway they want.

My, my, this subject does attract the idiots. What a wonderful lot of flap-yap drivel. Here is the history of the investigation of the 'greenhouse effect'. From the American Institute of Physics, a scientific society made up of scientfic societies.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Is there any debunked denialist mantra you're not going to toss out?

There is a master list. It would be faster if you'd just shout out something like "Number 1!" to cover the Great Global Socialist Conspiracy, "Number 3!" to cover the "There's no warming" big lie, and so on. That would save you keystrokes, and save everyone a lot of time.

Number 1 is: To date, none of the models of the alarmists have been correct.

It has the added benefit of being absolutely true.

 

[bripat9643]

Ah yes, the Great Global Socialist Conspiracy, a staple of denialists.

Of course, people who have the science on their side don't need tinfoil hat theories. It's good to be on the side of reason. To "win", we simply have to point at the data. No conspiracies required.

The data shows no warming for the past 17 1/2 years.

 

[bripat9643]

AGW is a quaint little theory that has had nearly two centuries for its adherents to produce proof of its validity. That its proponents during that lenghty period have failed to offer anything beyond anecdotes and computer forecasts which then collapse is off-set in turn by Lindzen's proofs that the earth's energy budget and sub-tropical mid-tropospheric temperatures do things they could not do while the theory’s atmospheric CO2 continuously rises.

“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.” Albert Einstein.

AGW has been proven wrong by the empirical facts, and the propagandists cannot counter the science. Their jihad to capture our freedoms by hoax will ultimately fail as climate events in the fullness of time continue to make a mockery of their efforts. The issue is whether they will collapse economies, ours especially, all over the planet by their efforts, which clearly many in their ranks earnestly wish fondly to do. How many more "Ship Of Fools" stuck in the ice it will take is anybody's guess. In the meantime, the beggars, true believers, crony-capitalists, misanthropes, & hanger-ons are out in force.

If they control your access to energy sources, they have you by the gonads and can jerk you anyway they want.

My, my, this subject does attract the idiots. What a wonderful lot of flap-yap drivel. Here is the history of the investigation of the 'greenhouse effect'. From the American Institute of Physics, a scientific society made up of scientfic societies.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

That's not an "investigation," Old Fart. It's a collection of abracadabra produced by various AGW cult members. It's propaganda.

 

[flacaltenn]

You understand that was all tinfoil-hat nonsense, right?

Oh wait, you don't. You refuse to step outside of your cult bubble, hence you're never exposed to normal people who will tell you the unpleasant facts.

Yep, it looks like I have to stage another intervention. Rogue, you're acting like a crazy person. Normal people just don't rave about how the entire planet is part of conspiracy against them.

For you to deny that the last several of these UN conferences did NOT end up as a beggars free for all marginalizes your participation in the thread. To the point where you are irrelevent. Every island nation, every 3rd world hellhole attends these conferences and uses their UN leverage to BILK $TRILLs out of developed countries as guilt money. Including one island nation that just tossed $10Bill of its own money to build an international airport on the land it claims --- "will be destroyed by GW because of the actions of the US and the major world economies"..

It's nothing but a food fight for cash.. Go ahead --- stay in denial and project your shortcomings on other.. It suits you..

 

[westwall]

Ah yes, the Great Global Socialist Conspiracy, a staple of denialists.

Of course, people who have the science on their side don't need tinfoil hat theories. It's good to be on the side of reason. To "win", we simply have to point at the data. No conspiracies required.

The fact that it is self admitted flies right over your tiny little head though....doesn't it....