This is Why, Despite Everything Else, I am Willing to Vote for Bernie Sanders.

[rightwinger]

Everywhere Socialism has been instituted, it has failed.

Another unsupported talking point.

I gave you three examples where it did in fact work; Bismarks Germany, FDRs USA and the first century Roman Empire Christian Church.

Where did they fail?

Soviet Union
Yugoslavia
China
Bulgaria
Poland
Cuba
Germany
Venezuela
Czechoslovakia

Should I continue?

Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, England

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

I support many of Sanders proposals

I just don't think he has a prayer of getting them implemented

The guy does care about struggling Americans though and I respect that

He doesn't care. He only cares about reaping more power for the government.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Everywhere Socialism has been instituted, it has failed.

Another unsupported talking point.

I gave you three examples where it did in fact work; Bismarks Germany, FDRs USA and the first century Roman Empire Christian Church.

Where did they fail?

Soviet Union
Yugoslavia
China
Bulgaria
Poland
Cuba
Germany
Venezuela
Czechoslovakia

Should I continue?

Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, England

Greece is doing great, huh?

 

[JimBowie1958]

And the OP?? The problem ain't the money honey.. It's the POWER that Congress has usurped from the Constitution to meddle and hold influence over the markets. In THAT environment -- you can't do business without patronage to the "lawmakers".. Remove the power they have over determining what "green peas" look like in the supermarket and the problem goes away.. OBVIOUSLY -- if you MORE POWER to govt (the Bernie way) -- the problem gets astronomically worse..

No, it is the corporate money that is turning our Congress from an institution of power that at one time had the highest authority in our country, to one that only rubber stamps the POTUS requests and distributes pork. You cannot separate the two things.

The final ridiculousness was Speaker Beohner going to the courts to reign in Obama's EO; Congress outranks the courts and has all the powers of a court, and if the courts are making decisions the Congress doesnt like, the Congress can impeach and replace the judges till it gets the kind of judgement it wants from them.

It is all right there in the Constitution, dude.

The GOP has SOLD our government to the corporations while we were too busy watching sports and working on getting our beer bellies.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I support many of Sanders proposals

I just don't think he has a prayer of getting them implemented

The guy does care about struggling Americans though and I respect that

He doesn't care. He only cares about reaping more power for the government.

Why do you insist on this without any evidence?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Everywhere Socialism has been instituted, it has failed.

Another unsupported talking point.

I gave you three examples where it did in fact work; Bismarks Germany, FDRs USA and the first century Roman Empire Christian Church.

Where did they fail?

Soviet Union
Yugoslavia
China
Bulgaria
Poland
Cuba
Germany
Venezuela
Czechoslovakia

Should I continue?

Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, England

Greece is doing great, huh?

When I point out three cases of socialism that worked, you providing cases where socialism failed does not counter what I said.

That the Soviet Union failed when implementing radical Marxism does not prove that moderate democratic socialism cannot work.

Capice?

 

[dannyboys]

Virtually everyone of the 'missing' precincts were leaning towards Sanders.
This is what happens when the Clinton Machine shows up.
Six! coin tosses all for Clinton?
And you fucking LIBs have the gall to claim she would be a great President?
How fucking mentally ill are you?!
CNN's Blitzer: 'Very, Very Embarrassing' Dems Couldn't Staff Iowa Caucuses

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

And the OP?? The problem ain't the money honey.. It's the POWER that Congress has usurped from the Constitution to meddle and hold influence over the markets. In THAT environment -- you can't do business without patronage to the "lawmakers".. Remove the power they have over determining what "green peas" look like in the supermarket and the problem goes away.. OBVIOUSLY -- if you MORE POWER to govt (the Bernie way) -- the problem gets astronomically worse..

No, it is the corporate money that is turning our Congress from an institution of power that at one time had the highest authority in our country, to one that only rubber stamps the POTUS requests and distributes pork. You cannot separate the two things.

The final ridiculousness was Speaker Beohner going to the courts to reign in Obama's EO; Congress outranks the courts and has all the powers of a court, and if the courts are making decisions the Congress doesnt like, the Congress canimpeach and replace the judges till it gets the kind of judgement it wants from them.

It is all right their in the Constitution, dude.

The GOP has SOLD our government to the corporations while we were too busy watching sports and working on getting our beer bellies.

So, your solution is to give the government ALL the power?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

You and Israel prefer ISIS.

Well, Isreal has to pick their enemies to survive; we dont. At least not yet.

ITs off topic anyway, no?

 

[Rozman]

I am neither for Hillary or Sanders ....Far from it.
But I wanted Bernie to beat Hillary....

One thing about Bernie....There is no doubt about what he is.
Not so with Hillary....

Anyway what I picked up from last night is that Hillary has all these super delegates all locked up.
In Iowa only or all across the board?

So why are the Democrats having these Primaries if Hillary already has the nomination all locked up with these super delegates?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Everywhere Socialism has been instituted, it has failed.

Another unsupported talking point.

I gave you three examples where it did in fact work; Bismarks Germany, FDRs USA and the first century Roman Empire Christian Church.

Where did they fail?

Soviet Union
Yugoslavia
China
Bulgaria
Poland
Cuba
Germany
Venezuela
Czechoslovakia

Should I continue?

That does not show me where Bismark's Germany, FDR's USA or the first century church failed.

Where did those three fail?

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am neither for Hillary or Sanders ....Far from it.
But I wanted Bernie to beat Hillary....

One thing about Bernie....There is no doubt about what he is.
Not so with Hillary....

Anyway what I picked up from last night is that Hillary has all these super delegates all locked up.
In Iowa only or all across the board?

So why are the Democrats having these Primaries if Hillary already has the nomination all locked up with these super delegates?

She doesnt as there are not that many super delegates and those delegates are under no commitment to her. Just promises that can be changed on a dime.

 

[flacaltenn]

And the OP?? The problem ain't the money honey.. It's the POWER that Congress has usurped from the Constitution to meddle and hold influence over the markets. In THAT environment -- you can't do business without patronage to the "lawmakers".. Remove the power they have over determining what "green peas" look like in the supermarket and the problem goes away.. OBVIOUSLY -- if you MORE POWER to govt (the Bernie way) -- the problem gets astronomically worse..

No, it is the corporate money that is turning our Congress from an institution of power that at one time had the highest authority in our country, to one that only rubber stamps the POTUS requests and distributes pork. You cannot separate the two things.

The final ridiculousness was Speaker Beohner going to the courts to reign in Obama's EO; Congress outranks the courts and has all the powers of a court, and if the courts are making decisions the Congress doesnt like, the Congress canimpeach and replace the judges till it gets the kind of judgement it wants from them.

It is all right their in the Constitution, dude.

The GOP has SOLD our government to the corporations while we were too busy watching sports and working on getting our beer bellies.

Nope.. It's NOT the GOP. The corporate welfare flows from both sides. But it's all phrased as technology incentives or Green subsidies or export development. These are NOT valid uses of government power.. And it's a feeding trough that NOBODY likes. BOTH parties are the problem there. I'm defending free markets here -- but I ABHOR corporate handouts. Want to END THEM?? Vote for folks who don't WANT MORE FEDERAL POWER... Vote for folks who actually believe in Constitutional limits of Federal involvement..

Not silly old idealogues who want to control MORE aspects of the market and your economic choices. You'll NEVER stop the cycle of influence and power with MORE power to meddle in the markets. You'll just CONCENTRATE the markets into cartels and ginormous monopolies who can AFFORD to pay the ransom..

 

[JimBowie1958]

And the OP?? The problem ain't the money honey.. It's the POWER that Congress has usurped from the Constitution to meddle and hold influence over the markets. In THAT environment -- you can't do business without patronage to the "lawmakers".. Remove the power they have over determining what "green peas" look like in the supermarket and the problem goes away.. OBVIOUSLY -- if you MORE POWER to govt (the Bernie way) -- the problem gets astronomically worse..

No, it is the corporate money that is turning our Congress from an institution of power that at one time had the highest authority in our country, to one that only rubber stamps the POTUS requests and distributes pork. You cannot separate the two things.

The final ridiculousness was Speaker Beohner going to the courts to reign in Obama's EO; Congress outranks the courts and has all the powers of a court, and if the courts are making decisions the Congress doesnt like, the Congress canimpeach and replace the judges till it gets the kind of judgement it wants from them.

It is all right their in the Constitution, dude.

The GOP has SOLD our government to the corporations while we were too busy watching sports and working on getting our beer bellies.

Nope.. It's NOT the GOP. The corporate welfare flows from both sides. But it's all phrased as technology incentives or Green subsidies or export development. These are NOT valid uses of government power.. And it's a feeding trough that NOBODY likes. BOTH parties are the problem there. I'm defending free markets here -- but I ABHOR corporate handouts. Want to END THEM?? Vote for folks who don't WANT MORE FEDERAL POWER... Vote for folks who actually believe in Constitutional limits of Federal involvement..

I hear you, but the I said the GOP sold the government to the corporations not that they were the ONLY ONES doing it.

Not silly old idealogues who want to control MORE aspects of the market and your economic choices. You'll NEVER stop the cycle of influence and power with MORE power to meddle in the markets. You'll just CONCENTRATE the markets into cartels and ginormous monopolies who can AFFORD to pay the ransom..

Yeah, well that sounds nice and all BUT I GOTTA EAT TILL THEN, so it aint happening since I cant eat Beltway conservative promises to do what they have not yet ever done for the USA middle class; and that is to KEEP THOSE DAMNED PROMISES. EVER. PERIOD.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I feel the same way, lets all be poor together. Cruz wants to let more H1B visas in.

That is a direct lie.

I assume that over there in Iran you simply don't grasp that Cruz and Rubio are distinctly different candidates.

But what you claim is a lie. Cruz opposes the H1B rape of educated Americans.

The rest are owned by big money, and Sanders voted no to the Iraq War, and I can only hope he can keep us out of war with Iran.

You believe he will surrender to you?

 

[JimBowie1958]

And the OP?? The problem ain't the money honey.. It's the POWER that Congress has usurped from the Constitution to meddle and hold influence over the markets. In THAT environment -- you can't do business without patronage to the "lawmakers".. Remove the power they have over determining what "green peas" look like in the supermarket and the problem goes away.. OBVIOUSLY -- if you MORE POWER to govt (the Bernie way) -- the problem gets astronomically worse..

No, it is the corporate money that is turning our Congress from an institution of power that at one time had the highest authority in our country, to one that only rubber stamps the POTUS requests and distributes pork. You cannot separate the two things.

The final ridiculousness was Speaker Beohner going to the courts to reign in Obama's EO; Congress outranks the courts and has all the powers of a court, and if the courts are making decisions the Congress doesnt like, the Congress canimpeach and replace the judges till it gets the kind of judgement it wants from them.

It is all right their in the Constitution, dude.

The GOP has SOLD our government to the corporations while we were too busy watching sports and working on getting our beer bellies.

So, your solution is to give the government ALL the power?

No, that is not part of 'democratic socialism', you are thinking of Marxism and that is a totally different animal.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Luckily there are people around Bernie to help him remember what he just said at his last campaign stop.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I feel the same way, lets all be poor together. Cruz wants to let more H1B visas in.

That is a direct lie.

I assume that over there in Iran you simply don't grasp that Cruz and Rubio are distinctly different candidates.

But what you claim is a lie. Cruz opposes the H1B rape of educated Americans.

The rest are owned by big money, and Sanders voted no to the Iraq War, and I can only hope he can keep us out of war with Iran.

You believe he will surrender to you?

Why do you think she lives in Iran?

Do you have ADHD?

 

[Penelope]

Get rid of preschool , expensive babysitting, and instead give cheap (not free) two years of college. Let kids be kids. I do not see anything good coming from preschool.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Everywhere Socialism has been instituted, it has failed.

Another unsupported talking point.

I gave you three examples where it did in fact work; Bismarks Germany, FDRs USA and the first century Roman Empire Christian Church.

Where did they fail?

Soviet Union
Yugoslavia
China
Bulgaria
Poland
Cuba
Germany
Venezuela
Czechoslovakia

Should I continue?

That does not show me where Bismark's Germany, FDR's USA or the first century church failed.

Where did those three fail?

Ever hear of The Great Depression? How long did it last, under socialist policies?