This is a phony impeachment inquiry.

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    mueller could not explicitly say that because of DOJ policy. but he listed 10 cases in which they should be investigated by congress.

    The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report

    & barr include in his little synopsis, that mueller didn't say no obstruction took place - in fact bob reiterated that if that were the case - then he would have 'so stated' that there was no obstruction.

    as for insufficient evidence? ya, he said that.

    Mueller says messaging apps likely destroyed Trump-Russia evidence
    Tech challenges prevented special counsel from establishing full picture of what happened

    Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III concluded that there was insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges against individuals connected with President Donald Trump’s campaign for their ties to Russia, but he said the investigation faced numerous challenges, including technological ones, in establishing a full picture of what transpired in 2015 and 2016.

    “While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges,” Mueller wrote in his report made public Thursday by the Justice Department.

    In investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russian individuals, Mueller’s team ran into technological hurdles, in addition to old-fashioned ones such as unavailable foreign witnesses, according to the report.

    The special counsel’s office “learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long term retention of data or communication records,” the report said. “In such cases the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with the other known facts.”
    [...]

    Mueller says messaging apps likely destroyed Trump-Russia evidence


    On a number of important questions, Mueller never got answers
    [,,,]

    One of the themes in the partially redacted report from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's team is that, in a number of key areas, they were left unable to determine the facts surrounding a particular issue. In both of the report's volumes — the first addressing possible conspiracy between Russia and President Trump's 2016 campaign and the second addressing possible obstruction of justice — there are examples of how and where Mueller's investigators hit brick walls.

    The report itself provides an overview of the problems Mueller's team faced. (The report refers to Mueller's team as “the Office.")

    "Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office's judgment, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity,” it states. Internal Justice Department guidelines blocked outreach to some witnesses. Other material was potentially subject to attorney-client privilege and screened before being given to Mueller's team.

    “Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed,” the report continues, “they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete. . . . And the Office faced practical limits on its ability to access relevant evidence as well — numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and documents were held outside the United States.”
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-questions-robert-mueller-never-got-answers/

    i don't lie nor make shit up. you're welcome for learning the truth.
     
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    Mueller stated that a charge of obstruction required a factual determination of an obstructive and, a nexus between that obstructive act, and corrupt intent.
    Your link cites Mueller's factual determination of 10 obstructive and their nexus to an instigation - please quote the text from the report where Mueller makes a factual determination of corrupt intent.
     
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    Two different issues.
    I was talking about Military aid not corrupt business over there.
     
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    You lied and got caught -- deal with it. There was no one looking into his son's company as you falsely claimed.
     
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    he can't because he follows DOJ policy & punted to congress. he left them a road map for them to do their constitutionally mandated job. he also included the words ' does not exonerate him'

    nice try though.

    i noticed you steered clear about the part of destroyed evidence & people taking the 5th.

    'insufficient' evidence is not the same as no evidence as well.
     
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    Nothing in DOJ policy precluded Mueller from making the factual determination that 10 obstructive acts were committed - which he did.
    Nothing in DOJ policy precluded Mueller from making the factual determination that those 10 acts had a nexus with an investigation - which he did.
    Nothing in DOJ policy precluded Mueller from making a factual determination of corrupt intent.
    Nothing.
    So.... please quote the text from the report where Mueller makes a factual determination of corrupt intent
     
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    he couldn't conclude whether trump obstructed justice because he cannot 'charge' him with a crime because he would not be able to defend himself in a court of law because a sitting prez cannot be indicted. you really are trying so hard, but no cookie for you.
     
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    AND you never addressed the part where mueller said there was insufficient evidence due to destruction etc... remember where you said he NEVER said that... NEVER?

    i do.
     
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    But he CAN make the factual determination that Trump acted with corrupt intent, a necessary component to a charge of obstruction.
    Where does he do this?
     
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    since donny refused to answer the majority of the written questions posed to him - most he was 'unable to recall or he didn't remember' even though he said he would not only meet with mueller - (which he pussied out on) but that 'he had the best memory ever'... making him a liar too.

    you're still failing.
     
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