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As one is dying from the day one is born, similarly, many people, from the moment they commence their careers, find themselves working toward the day they retire from the workforce. I find that to be a somewhat odd notion for among the people in my family and social cohort, while retiring from a given job happens, retiring such that one no longer performs work for which they receive compensation is not something folks much do before sometime in their eighties.Thread Questions:
Indeed, some like a close friend's father don't retire until well after the age when most folks think they should be retired. Plenty of notable figures work well past seventy years-old, and by outward appearances, generally, money isn't a primary driver to their doing so. For example:
I suppose my own circumstances will evolve similarly to my father's and others in my social cohort insofar as I cannot imagine doing anything that isn't accompanied by a large degree of decision-making discretion for I'm not a person suited to asking "how high" when someone to me says "jump." Dad worked until he was "retirement age" and, after about a year of two of having no more work to do than piddling around the house and such, transformed what had merely been an investing activity into a thriving business. He worked at that for some 20 more years before finally deciding to become fully retired. I know the only reason he worked for another 20 years was that he was bored not working and Momma was tired of his having no work to do. [1] His returning to the workforce, so to speak, resolved problems they both were having in the wake of his first retirement.
- Carl Bernstein (73)
- Jane Fonda (80)
- Lily Tomlin (78)
- Myriad members of Congress, both now and in the past
- Pat Buchanan (79)
- Carmen Dell'Orefice (86)
- Jack Nicholson (80)
- Several CEOs
- God only knows how many successful business owners
- Why do you think so many Americans predispose themselves to the notion of retiring as early in life as it seems they do?
- What would you think of the government increasing the "full benefit" age for Social Security to 75?
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- Anecdote about one of the most hilarious conversations I've ever had with my mother:
Momma was glad he took up a new career. Before he'd done so, she called halfway round the planet to solicit for my input and help finding something for Dad to do, and upon my return persuading him to do it, lest he make her balmy and drive her to bedlam. I told her to try lube and Viagra. She said they'd already been down that road. LOL It was then that I realized karma is real. LOL
Some people get slapped pretty hard by disease or some infirmity so I assume we are leaving them out of the main topic but I agree its best for everyone to find a purpose.
-Your point is well made and I agree. My elders who are still working or volunteering part time in their 70's are considerably more happy than those who are not. In general I don't think full time 40 hour a week work is in their best interest but to each their own if they desire.
-It is time we change the Social Security math again and if it makes it easier for a 70 year old to work part time and draw their SS that is fine with me.
-How hard do we want to encourage companies to provide reasonable pensions? This is a scary age of competing globally with countries Trump would probably call a **** **** but none the less we do need to be careful not to encourage those with no feelings or ties to America to build their factories overseas. Through tax breaks is my first idea.
-Something culturally should change. Consider my bad brother in law. A few years back I encouraged the man to learn to type so he could do something besides manual labor. The man is a horse still and just can't see living past when he can't pick up wheels and tires for a living. Not that I don't sneak away from my monitors to help unload trucks whenever I can, it still feels good. I just worry about when his back gives out or something and I feel a certain amount of worship for Archie Bunker and against fuzzy math, to explain myself poorly.
Some people get slapped pretty hard by disease or some infirmity so I assume we are leaving them out of the main topic
Correct. I definitely have not created this thread to delve into the "rabbit hole" of all the myriad exceptions to the norm of retirement behavior/situations that may exist.
Your point is well made
Thank you.
Well, I don't precisely agree with all of that, but "all of that" is a wholly different discussion topic than is the one for which this thread was created.we do need to be careful not to encourage those with no feelings or ties to America to build their factories overseas. Through tax breaks is my first idea.
I feel a certain amount of worship for Archie Bunker and against fuzzy math, to explain myself poorly.
My world -- academic career, personal life, and professional life -- is full of math, so I don't really understand just what you mean. To me, "fuzzy math" refers to set theory because, of course, as a business consultant, I've had to use it when clients engaged me/my firm to provide certain quantitative analysis and models.
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