Things I'm critical of Obama for...

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    For some of our less evolved RW posters, they automatically equate oppossition to Romney with endorsement of Obama. Even though their support of Romney is not based on any love of Romney, but hatred of Obama because he has a D behind his name.

    So in the interest of fairness, I thought I'd list the things I am critical of Obama for doing or not doing. Nearly all of these I've criticized him for in the past. People forget that now because even though I said as far back as July I would never support the Weird Mormon Robot, they thought I was kidding and would come around by now, I guess.

    1) Obamacare- The problem with the ACA is that it doesn’t really address the underlying problem, which is not so much the non-insured (most of whom are young enough to where buying insurance is impractical) but the spiraling costs of insurance. It does little to control the cost of health care, it just spreads the costs around by forcing people into the system.

    2) Stimulus- It was focused on bailing out state governments and delaying the day they had to make tough choices on pensions and personnel and benefits. The ugly truth is we’ve never gotten out of a recession without a burst of Keynesian spending. This was even true of Reagan, who doubled defense spending. This was just about putting off the reckoning.


    3) Budget showdown/Debt Ceiling- Never, ever should have gotten to that point. It was the most reckless game of chicken ever. Both parties deserve blame and scorn for it. Obama’s comments about peas and his daughters’ homework were patronizing, and missed the national mood. Again, this is where you really miss a Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan, who had the instinct to Ju-Jitsu the opposition with their own momentum and co-opt the good ideas.

    4) Keystone- A great example of how certain special interest groups hold good ideas hostage. Obama could have gotten behind starting construction while still minding environmental concerns.

    5) Afghanistan- this is an example of how rhetoric can cloud reality. Obama called Afganistan the “war of necessity”, so he could look hawkish while still reaping the benefits of the Iraq War’s unpopularity. But really, any purpose there was over when Karzai stole the 2009 election. So why are we still there? Because no one can admit it isn't worth it.

    6) Libya- Another great example of sticking our hands in a hornet’s nest and hoping we can find nice hornets which won’t sting us. It’s like we never learn. the people we helped are hip deep in with Al Qaeda, but we helped them get rid of Qadaffi, who really hadn't been a problem in some time.

    7) Holder- Needs to go. Period.

    8) Wright- this is water over the damn, really, but the way he handled it 2008 was kind of reprehensible. Particularly the way he threw Granny under the bus.


    9)Free Trade= Still drinking the Free Trade Koolaid, but both parties do that.

    Now, again, none of these things are to me a compelling reason to vote for Romney, a guy who would make the economic problems worse because he do more of the same things we are doing wrong.
     
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    Sounds like you just need to come up with a more competent Marxist President.
     
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    And this, children is why the RW has become a joke.

    Because they say "Marxist" in a totally non-sarcastic way, and really think Obama is a "Marxist".

    (Pssst. Pssst. Marxists don't save Wall Street. They nationalize it and take the Banksters out and shoot them.)

    The ironic thing is, Wall Street has made out pretty well under Obama. The Dow has been in the 12K-13K range for the last year. Vast improvement from the 7000 range it was in when he took office.
     
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    yeah, ironic, that's the ticket.
     
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    Sheesh.. long OP...where do I start,

    I don't hate Obama, I just believe he's proven unqualified. His policies and those of fellow liberals are devastating the country, in my opinion. (there's more but eh)

    "Weird Mormon Robot".... gads man...Romney could do with some cool...:lol:

    ( I just hope Romney doesn't wear that orange glow make-up that Al Gore did in the Presidential debates, Al and Mitt are robot clones, yah know...)
     
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    Again, compared to what?

    I think he's made mistakes. I think he's also accomplished some good things. I've yet to see any evidence Romney would be an improvement in any way. I think in many ways, he be worse because he lacks human empathy.
     
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    you totally ignore the worst thing he has done......


    american citizens now can be detained without trial....what the fuck is with that....

    where is all the bitching about our civil rights that went on under bush...obama has taken a lot more than bush took
     
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    I personally think a lot of these laws are stupid, but since my name isn't Achmed, they probably don't apply to me...

    Sorry, that's totally cynical, but it is what it is.
     
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    Joe B, do it piss you off that Pres. Obama had absolutely no help from Repubs in addressing our problems?

    What could we have accomplished IF all sides had worked on our problems together?

    I think the thing I am most pissed at Obama about is how slow he was to understand that the Rethugs were not only not going to offer any help but that they were actively working against both Obama and the majority of the American people. He should have realized this much sooner and planned accordingly.

    Also a little pissed that he took on HC at the time he did. Wasted to much time and effort and good will.

    And Obama needs to get a lot meaner and nastier. Let a little ghetto out.

    If he loses the next election, we are truly and royally fucked.
     
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    I don't believe, "some good things" is good enough for the country. His negatives far outweigh his positives over-all, it's really quite indisputable from a big picture perspective.

    Well, on Romney, you're not looking for evidence that Romney would be an improvement, quite the contrary. I also believe it's too early to tell, his mettle is still being tested.
     

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