They were FOR it before they were AGAINST it.

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    Yesterday, we singled out John McCain for once CO-SPONSORING -- and then yesterday voting AGAINST -- the bipartisan proposal to create an independent commission to reduce the debt. But as it turns out, there were five other Republicans who did this (Mike Crapo, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Sam Brownback, John Ensign, and Jim Inhofe), and Robert Bennett, who remained a co-sponsor, also voted against it.

    First Read - msnbc.com

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    You see, seven Republicans worked on a "bipartisan proposal", some even sponsoring it. Then, when it came up for vote, they voted AGAINST it.

    Were they ever for it? Did they make it up to have something else to vote against? Oh well, at least they gave Democrats something more to use for the next election, so the work wasn't wasted.
     
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    And we'll simply take it that you have not looked into what has changed from what they originally sponsored or supported, in terms of what they are against now....

    You're no deeper than a snail trail
     
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    Is it that you are spinning....or are you truly naive to how congress works.

    People sponsor bills all the time....and once it is doctored, changed...and most importantly....earmarks and pork for special interests thrown in, many who sponsored the original bill will vote against it.

    It is not unusual...happens to both sides. Has NEVER been presented as something strange...it is quite common actually.

    yet...

    MSNBC made a big deal about it.

    I wonder why that is.
     
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    You have to wonder??? Really?? LOL
     
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    Is it that MSNBC is naive to how congress works

    OR

    DO they realize how naive their audience is...so they can make news where news doesnt exist.
     
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    Why don't you tell us what has changed? ...so we won't have to suspect that you're pretending to know something you don't.
     
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    So I guess we were right - some of us - who knew that the rightwingers were ignorant to make a big deal out of John Kerry being for it before he was against it, i.e., the 87 billion dollar funding bill.
     
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    Quite simple....EVERY bill changes....and EVRY bill has supporters and sponsors that bow out after the changes are made.

    It is NOT NEWS...it is SOP for congress.

    Only MSNBC made it news.

    Sadly...it is news to you. Arte you new to the political scene?

    I guess you must be....or your media does not inform you. One or the other.
     
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    Yep...those that made a big deal tut of the action of Kerry were right wingers that would say anything to knock a dem.
    However, most of us simply made fun of how silly he sounded saying it...not the action itself.
    If he hads said "I was for it before the changees were made, and I was not able to support the changes", no one would have said a word.

    But he didnt...he simply said "I was for it before I was against it"...and that sounded silly.

    But nice spin of the facts...I expect no less of you.
     
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    So it is my burden to list all of what has changed???

    You are actually defending the assumption and pure sloganeering of the idiot rdean....??? The little sniveler made a misleading post in an attempt to portray the changing of support, as if the bill/effort had not changed.... and you defend that crap??

    You're about as deep as a snail trail as well

    Do you doubt that the bill has changed from the complete content that it had when these people supported or co-sponsored it?? Is this your contention??
     

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