They died to Free blacks from slavery

[Correll]

We keep getting told how whites died fighting to end slavery therefore we as blacks, who apparently did nothing need to be grateful for the great sacrifices made by whites. First off this is a silly claim. We are to be grateful that whites decided to fix a problem they created and did not have to be. However, reality is that such a claim is untrue.

New York City draft riots

The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), known at the time as Draft Week,[3] were violent disturbances in Lower Manhattan, widely regarded as the culmination of working-class discontent with new laws passed by Congress that year to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. The riots remain the largest civil and racially charged insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots#cite_note-foner-4


If the Civil War was not about slavery, and was just about saving the Union, why were these Draft Riots, "racially charged"?

U.S. President Abraham Lincoln diverted several regiments of militia and volunteer troops after the Battle of Gettysburg to control the city. The rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, mostly Irish or of Irish descent, who feared free black people competing for work and resented that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $9,157 in 2017[5]) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[6][7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots#cite_note-7


The riots were BEFORE the Gettysburgh Address, yet the rioters seemed to think that the war would result in large numbers of slaves being freed.

MMMM, interesting.

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking black people throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots#cite_note-wool-8


Again with the anger at blacks, over a war that you claim was not about the blacks.

The military did not reach the city until the second day of rioting, by which time the mobs had ransacked or destroyed numerous public buildings, two Protestant churches, the homes of various abolitionists or sympathizers, many black homes, and the Colored Orphan Asylum at 44th Street and Fifth Avenue, which was burned to the ground.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots#cite_note-Harris-9


Abolitionists? That's even weirder.

These citizens, during the Civil War, well before The Gettysburg address, really seemed convinced that the war was about freeing the slaves.


Oh, and the attack on the churches? THat was because they were known to be big in the Abolition movement.

The area's demographics changed as a result of the riot. Many black residents left Manhattan permanently with many moving to Brooklyn. By 1865, the black population fell below 11,000 for the first time since 1820.

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia

And again with the Blacks. Jeez, where did these fools get the idea that the Civil War would end up freeing the slaves?


How crazy of them.



Do you even read anything?

 

[IM2]

Slavery was inherited in the U.S. in some areas. Not all regions had or permitted slavery. Most men were not for it. No women had a vote, so they had no voice in it. On what basis can it be honestly stated that the so-called white part of the population enforced slavery? Such a proposition only serves to divide further.

The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

The Act was one of the most controversial elements of the 1850 compromise and heightened Northern fears of a "slave power conspiracy". It required that all escaped slaves, upon capture, be returned to their masters and that officials and citizens of free states had to cooperate. Abolitionists nicknamed it the "Bloodhound Law" for the dogs that were used to track down runaway slaves.[1]

Article Four of the United States Constitution

Clause 3: Fugitive Slave Clause

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

These are just 2 things.

It is a fact that many Americans fought to end slavery. Many northern soldiers were devout Christians and abolitionists. They were inflamed by the propaganda of the day...such as Uncle Tom's Cabin. This lead them to take up arms to end slavery. Many of my ancestors did exactly that.

This thread is yet another proof of your illogical racist hatred for whites.

P.S. had black slavers in Africa not sold your ancestors into slavery in North America, you likely would still be in Africa. So, you have much to be grateful for.

Not really. Whites did not fight to end slavery. That's just the way it is.

You ingrate. Most you always post ignorance? I guess that is a common trait for racists.

To give you the benefit of the doubt (something you would never give a white person), you are confusing the political leadership in the North with the Northern soldier. They are two very different things.

Lincoln didn't give two shits about the slaves or ending slavery. He only wanted to make sure the tariff on the Southern states economy was imposed, so that the federal government would be enriched along with his bosses. He was entirely owned and controlled by wealthy northern industrialists. They got him elected and he did their bidding.

Whites did not fight to free us, that is an undeniable truth. You are the one posting ignorance because you are the racist. You know what you can do with that ingrate shit. You weren't here for the civil war, you don't want be held responsible for what your great grandfather did, but you want me to be grateful to him? Are you crazy?

Cognitive dissonance.

 

[JoeMoma]

Blacks did not overcome slavery and oppression in America alone. The attitudes and beliefs of whites had to evolve as well. Slavery did not end because Blacks took up arms and fought back. The Jim Crow laws were not ended by force in the 1950s and 1960s. White people chose to change. Had white people not chose to change, Black people might still be in bondage. The civil rights movement that changed America was both black and white; it had to be to be successful.

 

[gipper]

Slavery was inherited in the U.S. in some areas. Not all regions had or permitted slavery. Most men were not for it. No women had a vote, so they had no voice in it. On what basis can it be honestly stated that the so-called white part of the population enforced slavery? Such a proposition only serves to divide further.

The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

The Act was one of the most controversial elements of the 1850 compromise and heightened Northern fears of a "slave power conspiracy". It required that all escaped slaves, upon capture, be returned to their masters and that officials and citizens of free states had to cooperate. Abolitionists nicknamed it the "Bloodhound Law" for the dogs that were used to track down runaway slaves.[1]

Article Four of the United States Constitution

Clause 3: Fugitive Slave Clause

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

These are just 2 things.

It is a fact that many Americans fought to end slavery. Many northern soldiers were devout Christians and abolitionists. They were inflamed by the propaganda of the day...such as Uncle Tom's Cabin. This lead them to take up arms to end slavery. Many of my ancestors did exactly that.

This thread is yet another proof of your illogical racist hatred for whites.

P.S. had black slavers in Africa not sold your ancestors into slavery in North America, you likely would still be in Africa. So, you have much to be grateful for.

Not really. Whites did not fight to end slavery. That's just the way it is.

You ingrate. Most you always post ignorance? I guess that is a common trait for racists.

To give you the benefit of the doubt (something you would never give a white person), you are confusing the political leadership in the North with the Northern soldier. They are two very different things.

Lincoln didn't give two shits about the slaves or ending slavery. He only wanted to make sure the tariff on the Southern states economy was imposed, so that the federal government would be enriched along with his bosses. He was entirely owned and controlled by wealthy northern industrialists. They got him elected and he did their bidding.

Whites did not fight to free us, that is an undeniable truth. You are the one posting ignorance because you are the racist. You know what you can do with that ingrate shit. You weren't here for the civil war, you don't want be held responsible for what your great grandfather did, but you want me to be grateful to him? Are you crazy?

Cognitive dissonance.

Clearly you ARE an INGRATE and a racist.

My ancestors must be rolling in their graves for fighting and dying to free your ancestors, after reading your racist diatribes.

 

[irosie91]

for IM2. TRUE---most people who fought in the civil war or lived during that time did not die to free slaves---
a very few did. Not true is IM2's position that
"WHITES" invented slavery.

Slavery was made legal in the UNITED STATES by whites. You want to go back a million years in order to say you are not responsible. But we are talking about the claim of whites dying to free us.

you have made NO POINT. As far as going back a MILLION YEARS.-----I need not. I have no family legacy in the US all the way BACK before the Emancipation and certainly not a family legacy of
SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERSHIP I am no more responsible than are you. Are you responsible for slavery in sub-Saharan Africa?

Here we go with stupid. There is no sub-Saharan Africa. There is only Africa. Slavery did not end things for backs and you have benefitted from what went on after slavery. But you see, you are responsible for righting wrongs not making excuses as to why you can't. We all are. I'm not responsible for black crime, I have not sold a drug, fathered children out of wedlock, I went to college and graduated, always held a job, never took welfare and yet have helped those who have been affected by these things prosper. No excuses. You need to do the same.

"THERE IS ONLY AFRICA"? good---my husband was born in southern asia and his ancestors are from southern asia -----in fact,
genetically-----my ancestry is very African.
As to his genes---also very african My skin is very white---
his is dark-----called "brown" in England. Do you
OWE us something? Will you RIGHT the wrongs
done to him and his community for more than 1000
years-----and to mine and his for more than 2000 years? Tell me a group of people who were never oppressed-------and Saxons were oppressed by the Normans..... damn those NORMANS

 

[IM2]

for IM2. TRUE---most people who fought in the civil war or lived during that time did not die to free slaves---
a very few did. Not true is IM2's position that
"WHITES" invented slavery.

Slavery was made legal in the UNITED STATES by whites. You want to go back a million years in order to say you are not responsible. But we are talking about the claim of whites dying to free us.

you have made NO POINT. As far as going back a MILLION YEARS.-----I need not. I have no family legacy in the US all the way BACK before the Emancipation and certainly not a family legacy of
SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERSHIP I am no more responsible than are you. Are you responsible for slavery in sub-Saharan Africa?

That dude has mental issues of something he has never experienced and lost reading skewed history books. Tell that dude to lay his head back in an easy chair and think positive thoughts which will put him in a hypotonic state where he is easily hypnotized, id est, Brainwashed.

That must be you. For I have experienced white racism and discrimination against me.

It is impossible for blacks to be racist, Jessie Jackson. I wanted to bid on a APS (Atlanta Public Schools) contract and the black woman contract manager told me straight up, you are the wrong color. I got a little bit angry and said nothing walking out the door.

Why didn't you file a racial discrimination suit then? You're lying, that's why.

You have chosen to ignore what a history of white racism has done to try making a false equivalence about racism. For some reason whites such as you, not all whites, seem to believe that blacks after over 400 continuous years of white racism should not be angry or that no black has a right to not trust or like whites. But 2 planes flying into a building one time gives you license to dislike, mistrust and hate Muslims as much as you want. And don't dare call you racists for that.

I’ll end this by saying what racism is not. It is not complaining about racism directed at blacks by whites. It is not the angry response to the built in disrespect of a persons humanity by the race that thinks they are superior either. It is not the animosity built up in those who have been the ones disrespected by the race that thinks they are superior. A lot of whites do not seem to understand what white racism has done and then want to quickly call racism the angry reaction, responses and animosity created by white racism.

 

[IM2]

The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

The Act was one of the most controversial elements of the 1850 compromise and heightened Northern fears of a "slave power conspiracy". It required that all escaped slaves, upon capture, be returned to their masters and that officials and citizens of free states had to cooperate. Abolitionists nicknamed it the "Bloodhound Law" for the dogs that were used to track down runaway slaves.[1]

Article Four of the United States Constitution

Clause 3: Fugitive Slave Clause

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

These are just 2 things.

It is a fact that many Americans fought to end slavery. Many northern soldiers were devout Christians and abolitionists. They were inflamed by the propaganda of the day...such as Uncle Tom's Cabin. This lead them to take up arms to end slavery. Many of my ancestors did exactly that.

This thread is yet another proof of your illogical racist hatred for whites.

P.S. had black slavers in Africa not sold your ancestors into slavery in North America, you likely would still be in Africa. So, you have much to be grateful for.

Not really. Whites did not fight to end slavery. That's just the way it is.

You ingrate. Most you always post ignorance? I guess that is a common trait for racists.

To give you the benefit of the doubt (something you would never give a white person), you are confusing the political leadership in the North with the Northern soldier. They are two very different things.

Lincoln didn't give two shits about the slaves or ending slavery. He only wanted to make sure the tariff on the Southern states economy was imposed, so that the federal government would be enriched along with his bosses. He was entirely owned and controlled by wealthy northern industrialists. They got him elected and he did their bidding.

Whites did not fight to free us, that is an undeniable truth. You are the one posting ignorance because you are the racist. You know what you can do with that ingrate shit. You weren't here for the civil war, you don't want be held responsible for what your great grandfather did, but you want me to be grateful to him? Are you crazy?

Cognitive dissonance.

Clearly you ARE an INGRATE and a racist.

My ancestors must be rolling in their graves for fighting and dying to free your ancestors, after reading your racist diatribes.

Clearly you are an idiot. Your ancestors can roll 24-7-365 because they did not fight or die to free my ancestors.

 

[IM2]

for IM2. TRUE---most people who fought in the civil war or lived during that time did not die to free slaves---
a very few did. Not true is IM2's position that
"WHITES" invented slavery.

Slavery was made legal in the UNITED STATES by whites. You want to go back a million years in order to say you are not responsible. But we are talking about the claim of whites dying to free us.

you have made NO POINT. As far as going back a MILLION YEARS.-----I need not. I have no family legacy in the US all the way BACK before the Emancipation and certainly not a family legacy of
SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERSHIP I am no more responsible than are you. Are you responsible for slavery in sub-Saharan Africa?

Here we go with stupid. There is no sub-Saharan Africa. There is only Africa. Slavery did not end things for backs and you have benefitted from what went on after slavery. But you see, you are responsible for righting wrongs not making excuses as to why you can't. We all are. I'm not responsible for black crime, I have not sold a drug, fathered children out of wedlock, I went to college and graduated, always held a job, never took welfare and yet have helped those who have been affected by these things prosper. No excuses. You need to do the same.

"THERE IS ONLY AFRICA"? good---my husband was born in southern asia and his ancestors are from southern asia -----in fact,
genetically-----my ancestry is very African.
As to his genes---also very african My skin is very white---
his is dark-----called "brown" in England. Do you
OWE us something? Will you RIGHT the wrongs
done to him and his community for more than 1000
years-----and to mine and his for more than 2000 years? Tell me a group of people who were never oppressed-------and Saxons were oppressed by the Normans..... damn those NORMANS

What does this have to do with the OP?

 

[irosie91]

It is a fact that many Americans fought to end slavery. Many northern soldiers were devout Christians and abolitionists. They were inflamed by the propaganda of the day...such as Uncle Tom's Cabin. This lead them to take up arms to end slavery. Many of my ancestors did exactly that.

This thread is yet another proof of your illogical racist hatred for whites.

P.S. had black slavers in Africa not sold your ancestors into slavery in North America, you likely would still be in Africa. So, you have much to be grateful for.

Not really. Whites did not fight to end slavery. That's just the way it is.

You ingrate. Most you always post ignorance? I guess that is a common trait for racists.

To give you the benefit of the doubt (something you would never give a white person), you are confusing the political leadership in the North with the Northern soldier. They are two very different things.

Lincoln didn't give two shits about the slaves or ending slavery. He only wanted to make sure the tariff on the Southern states economy was imposed, so that the federal government would be enriched along with his bosses. He was entirely owned and controlled by wealthy northern industrialists. They got him elected and he did their bidding.

Whites did not fight to free us, that is an undeniable truth. You are the one posting ignorance because you are the racist. You know what you can do with that ingrate shit. You weren't here for the civil war, you don't want be held responsible for what your great grandfather did, but you want me to be grateful to him? Are you crazy?

Cognitive dissonance.

Clearly you ARE an INGRATE and a racist.

My ancestors must be rolling in their graves for fighting and dying to free your ancestors, after reading your racist diatribes.

Clearly you are an idiot. Your ancestors can roll 24-7-365 because they did not fight or die to free my ancestors.

your ancestors did not fight or die to free mine---either. You are very narrow in your thinking

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

 

[Taz]

We keep getting told how whites died fighting to end slavery therefore we as blacks, who apparently did nothing need to be grateful for the great sacrifices made by whites. First off this is a silly claim. We are to be grateful that whites decided to fix a problem they created and did not have to be. However, reality is that such a claim is untrue.

New York City draft riots

The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), known at the time as Draft Week,[3] were violent disturbances in Lower Manhattan, widely regarded as the culmination of working-class discontent with new laws passed by Congress that year to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. The riots remain the largest civil and racially charged insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.[4]

U.S. President Abraham Lincoln diverted several regiments of militia and volunteer troops after the Battle of Gettysburg to control the city. The rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, mostly Irish or of Irish descent, who feared free black people competing for work and resented that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $9,157 in 2017[5]) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[6][7]

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking black people throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]

The military did not reach the city until the second day of rioting, by which time the mobs had ransacked or destroyed numerous public buildings, two Protestant churches, the homes of various abolitionists or sympathizers, many black homes, and the Colored Orphan Asylum at 44th Street and Fifth Avenue, which was burned to the ground.[9]

The area's demographics changed as a result of the riot. Many black residents left Manhattan permanently with many moving to Brooklyn. By 1865, the black population fell below 11,000 for the first time since 1820.

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia

The New York draft riots was a relatively small part of US Civil war era history. It has very little to compare with 300,000 Union soldier lives lost. Whether these northern soldiers fought for the principle of stopping slavery or not, they did fight and die in that war, and for blacks to shrug that off, merely shows a degree of mental incapacity.

Excellent comment. However "merely shows a degree of mental incapacity." I'd say "merely shows a degree of lack of education."

I'm probably better educated than you both. And the fact is whites did not die to free us in the civil war. They died, but not to free us. That is my point and the only lack of education is trying to deny that whites did not die free us in this war.

We should have never fought the civil war then, and left all you ungrateful brown sacks of flabby skin in chains in the south?

 

[xband]

Slavery was made legal in the UNITED STATES by whites. You want to go back a million years in order to say you are not responsible. But we are talking about the claim of whites dying to free us.

you have made NO POINT. As far as going back a MILLION YEARS.-----I need not. I have no family legacy in the US all the way BACK before the Emancipation and certainly not a family legacy of
SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERSHIP I am no more responsible than are you. Are you responsible for slavery in sub-Saharan Africa?

That dude has mental issues of something he has never experienced and lost reading skewed history books. Tell that dude to lay his head back in an easy chair and think positive thoughts which will put him in a hypotonic state where he is easily hypnotized, id est, Brainwashed.

That must be you. For I have experienced white racism and discrimination against me.

It is impossible for blacks to be racist, Jessie Jackson. I wanted to bid on a APS (Atlanta Public Schools) contract and the black woman contract manager told me straight up, you are the wrong color. I got a little bit angry and said nothing walking out the door.

Why didn't you file a racial discrimination suit then? You're lying, that's why.

You have chosen to ignore what a history of white racism has done to try making a false equivalence about racism. For some reason whites such as you, not all whites, seem to believe that blacks after over 400 continuous years of white racism should not be angry or that no black has a right to not trust or like whites. But 2 planes flying into a building one time gives you license to dislike, mistrust and hate Muslims as much as you want. And don't dare call you racists for that.

I’ll end this by saying what racism is not. It is not complaining about racism directed at blacks by whites. It is not the angry response to the built in disrespect of a persons humanity by the race that thinks they are superior either. It is not the animosity built up in those who have been the ones disrespected by the race that thinks they are superior. A lot of whites do not seem to understand what white racism has done and then want to quickly call racism the angry reaction, responses and animosity created by white racism.

I never lie and am doomed to speak the truth but only about my personal experiences. Let me tell you more of my personal experiences and don't tell me to write a book.

 

[KissMy]

Many of us white males have been passed over by blacks because of need to fill black women quotas. Customers complained stupid black woman could not repair machines, so boss promoted her to supervisor to get her out of doing service calls, so us white guys had to work under a ignorant racist black bitch.

 

[IM2]

We keep getting told how whites died fighting to end slavery therefore we as blacks, who apparently did nothing need to be grateful for the great sacrifices made by whites. First off this is a silly claim. We are to be grateful that whites decided to fix a problem they created and did not have to be. However, reality is that such a claim is untrue.

New York City draft riots

The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), known at the time as Draft Week,[3] were violent disturbances in Lower Manhattan, widely regarded as the culmination of working-class discontent with new laws passed by Congress that year to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. The riots remain the largest civil and racially charged insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.[4]

U.S. President Abraham Lincoln diverted several regiments of militia and volunteer troops after the Battle of Gettysburg to control the city. The rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, mostly Irish or of Irish descent, who feared free black people competing for work and resented that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $9,157 in 2017[5]) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[6][7]

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking black people throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]

The military did not reach the city until the second day of rioting, by which time the mobs had ransacked or destroyed numerous public buildings, two Protestant churches, the homes of various abolitionists or sympathizers, many black homes, and the Colored Orphan Asylum at 44th Street and Fifth Avenue, which was burned to the ground.[9]

The area's demographics changed as a result of the riot. Many black residents left Manhattan permanently with many moving to Brooklyn. By 1865, the black population fell below 11,000 for the first time since 1820.

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia

The New York draft riots was a relatively small part of US Civil war era history. It has very little to compare with 300,000 Union soldier lives lost. Whether these northern soldiers fought for the principle of stopping slavery or not, they did fight and die in that war, and for blacks to shrug that off, merely shows a degree of mental incapacity.

Excellent comment. However "merely shows a degree of mental incapacity." I'd say "merely shows a degree of lack of education."

I'm probably better educated than you both. And the fact is whites did not die to free us in the civil war. They died, but not to free us. That is my point and the only lack of education is trying to deny that whites did not die free us in this war.

We should have never fought the civil war then, and left all you ungrateful brown sacks of flabby brown skin in chains in the south?

And curly enters into the discussion.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

White people chose to change.

I agree with your sentiment but this statement is not accurate. I have no hard numbers or percentages but things did not change because the attitudes and beliefs of white people changed, it was the laws that changed eventually. Laws however cannot legislate a person's mind and heart only provide punishment, either criminal or civil, for the violation thereof. And when those individuals involved in our criminal justice system - police officers, prosecutors, jurors & judges were allowed the discretion to selectively enforce the laws as they saw fit, then irrespective to the what laws were on the books, white society still managed to maintain the status quo for a very long time thereafter. In fact many aspects of racial discrimination are still in play to today but more so covert as opposed to the in-your-face overt racism of the past.

 

[IM2]

you have made NO POINT. As far as going back a MILLION YEARS.-----I need not. I have no family legacy in the US all the way BACK before the Emancipation and certainly not a family legacy of
SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERSHIP I am no more responsible than are you. Are you responsible for slavery in sub-Saharan Africa?

That dude has mental issues of something he has never experienced and lost reading skewed history books. Tell that dude to lay his head back in an easy chair and think positive thoughts which will put him in a hypotonic state where he is easily hypnotized, id est, Brainwashed.

That must be you. For I have experienced white racism and discrimination against me.

It is impossible for blacks to be racist, Jessie Jackson. I wanted to bid on a APS (Atlanta Public Schools) contract and the black woman contract manager told me straight up, you are the wrong color. I got a little bit angry and said nothing walking out the door.

Why didn't you file a racial discrimination suit then? You're lying, that's why.

You have chosen to ignore what a history of white racism has done to try making a false equivalence about racism. For some reason whites such as you, not all whites, seem to believe that blacks after over 400 continuous years of white racism should not be angry or that no black has a right to not trust or like whites. But 2 planes flying into a building one time gives you license to dislike, mistrust and hate Muslims as much as you want. And don't dare call you racists for that.

I’ll end this by saying what racism is not. It is not complaining about racism directed at blacks by whites. It is not the angry response to the built in disrespect of a persons humanity by the race that thinks they are superior either. It is not the animosity built up in those who have been the ones disrespected by the race that thinks they are superior. A lot of whites do not seem to understand what white racism has done and then want to quickly call racism the angry reaction, responses and animosity created by white racism.

I never lie and am doomed to speak the truth but only about my personal experiences. Let me tell you more of my personal experiences and don't tell me to write a book.

That's a lie right there. If that black woman told you that you were the wrong color to compete for that contract you should have filed a racial discrimination suit. I'm quite sure that you knew you could if that was the case given you want to jump at any claim of black racism. Therefore it didn't happen.

 

[IM2]

Many of us white males have been passed over by blacks because of need to fill black women quotas. Customers complained stupid black woman could not repair machines, so boss promoted her to supervisor to get her out of doing service calls, so us white guys had to work under a ignorant racist bitch.

No many of you have not. Quotas do not exist. They are illegal.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

We keep getting told how whites died fighting to end slavery therefore we as blacks, who apparently did nothing need to be grateful for the great sacrifices made by whites. First off this is a silly claim. We are to be grateful that whites decided to fix a problem they created and did not have to be. However, reality is that such a claim is untrue.

New York City draft riots

The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), known at the time as Draft Week,[3] were violent disturbances in Lower Manhattan, widely regarded as the culmination of working-class discontent with new laws passed by Congress that year to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. The riots remain the largest civil and racially charged insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.[4]

U.S. President Abraham Lincoln diverted several regiments of militia and volunteer troops after the Battle of Gettysburg to control the city. The rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, mostly Irish or of Irish descent, who feared free black people competing for work and resented that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $9,157 in 2017[5]) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[6][7]

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking black people throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]

The military did not reach the city until the second day of rioting, by which time the mobs had ransacked or destroyed numerous public buildings, two Protestant churches, the homes of various abolitionists or sympathizers, many black homes, and the Colored Orphan Asylum at 44th Street and Fifth Avenue, which was burned to the ground.[9]

The area's demographics changed as a result of the riot. Many black residents left Manhattan permanently with many moving to Brooklyn. By 1865, the black population fell below 11,000 for the first time since 1820.

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia

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We keep getting told how whites died fighting to end slavery therefore we as blacks, who apparently did nothing need to be grateful for the great sacrifices made by whites. First off this is a silly claim. We are to be grateful that whites decided to fix a problem they created and did not have to be. However, reality is that such a claim is untrue.

New York City draft riots

The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), known at the time as Draft Week,[3] were violent disturbances in Lower Manhattan, widely regarded as the culmination of working-class discontent with new laws passed by Congress that year to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. The riots remain the largest civil and racially charged insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.[4]

U.S. President Abraham Lincoln diverted several regiments of militia and volunteer troops after the Battle of Gettysburg to control the city. The rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, mostly Irish or of Irish descent, who feared free black people competing for work and resented that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $9,157 in 2017[5]) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[6][7]

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking black people throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]

The military did not reach the city until the second day of rioting, by which time the mobs had ransacked or destroyed numerous public buildings, two Protestant churches, the homes of various abolitionists or sympathizers, many black homes, and the Colored Orphan Asylum at 44th Street and Fifth Avenue, which was burned to the ground.[9]

The area's demographics changed as a result of the riot. Many black residents left Manhattan permanently with many moving to Brooklyn. By 1865, the black population fell below 11,000 for the first time since 1820.

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia

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We keep getting told how whites died fighting to end slavery therefore we as blacks, who apparently did nothing need to be grateful for the great sacrifices made by whites. First off this is a silly claim. We are to be grateful that whites decided to fix a problem they created and did not have to be. However, reality is that such a claim is untrue.

New York City draft riots

The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), known at the time as Draft Week,[3] were violent disturbances in Lower Manhattan, widely regarded as the culmination of working-class discontent with new laws passed by Congress that year to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. The riots remain the largest civil and racially charged insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.[4]

U.S. President Abraham Lincoln diverted several regiments of militia and volunteer troops after the Battle of Gettysburg to control the city. The rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, mostly Irish or of Irish descent, who feared free black people competing for work and resented that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $9,157 in 2017[5]) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[6][7]

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking black people throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]

The military did not reach the city until the second day of rioting, by which time the mobs had ransacked or destroyed numerous public buildings, two Protestant churches, the homes of various abolitionists or sympathizers, many black homes, and the Colored Orphan Asylum at 44th Street and Fifth Avenue, which was burned to the ground.[9]

The area's demographics changed as a result of the riot. Many black residents left Manhattan permanently with many moving to Brooklyn. By 1865, the black population fell below 11,000 for the first time since 1820.

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia

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