There's No Way I'm Moving To Florida And Getting Arrested. Madness.

[boedicca]

She is an idiot.

No she's not. It's quite common for kids to "want a taste" - and they usually say "ewwwwww..." when they get it.

What makes kids crave alcohol is treating it as some big TABOO thing that they Can't Have.

That's nice. I disagree.

Bully for you.

And condolences on your lack of understanding of human psychology. Make something verboten, and it is a bigger temptation.

 

[Rikurzhen]

She is an idiot.

No she's not. It's quite common for kids to "want a taste" - and they usually say "ewwwwww..." when they get it.

What makes kids crave alcohol is treating it as some big TABOO thing that they Can't Have.

Exactly right.

You control the message when they're young and you reinforce for at least a decade before their friends start trying to influence them.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Don't give your kids alcohol Rikurzhen

Too late for me, for my wife, too late for our kids.

Is alcohol really that important to your family?

Who in their right mind wants their kids to be binge drinkers, alcoholics, passing out in the street and getting raped? My kids are too valuable to me to let that happen to them. You let your kids friends guide them into the world of drinking and define for your kids the social aspects of drinking and leave me to do the same for my kids.

Fine. Don't put it on facebook.

I don't put anything on facebook.

You do realize that what she did was not a crime in 29 states.

Well there are a lot of conservatives in Florida. She should've thought twice about letting them see that on Facebook.

 

[Gracie]

Oh, I understand quite well but instead of arguing opposing views, I'll just let you get the last word in.

 

[Rikurzhen]

I knew my step son had a drug problem starting when he was 14 years old. I just didn't realize that drug problem started when he was 12..at home..with his skanky low life mother being the cause of it. SHE said she knew he would eventually do it and she preferred he learn from her and be safe at home. She is an idiot.

You do not give your child alcohol. Period. Nor drugs to "teach them". Duh.

I started drinking when I was about 5. Heavily watered down wine at the dinner table. The most alcohol I've ever had in one night, in my entire life, is 3 glasses of wine, and that was over a fairly long evening. I sailed through my teen years never feeling the need to drink with my people my own age. I'm sure that I was over the legal limit of intoxication at some point but never really drunk.

So yes, you should give your child alcohol. The caveat is if you come from a family with a history of alcohol abuse and there the issue becomes more rocky. You don't want to prime the pump but you do want to take control of assigning meaning to alcohol. I'm not sure which is the best path for those families.

 

[Gracie]

Sorry, but I would never give my child alcohol. If he wanted to drink, he could wait til 21 and to keep in mind his father is an alcoholic, his grandfather is an alcoholic and the genes run in his family so if that is what he wants to be like...then go ahead..but not under my roof.
When he was 21, he asked if I would go with him to buy his first drink in a bar. Just mom and son. I said ok. He ordered a beer. I ordered a shirley temple. He struggled to get the beer down. I guess he took after me in thinking beer is the nastiest tasting stuff on the planet. He never did become a drinker. But I damn sure was not going to introduce him to it when he was 7, 10 or 14. I have had enough of drunks and I damn sure was not going to help him become one.

 

[Gracie]

And, being experienced on how addicting cigs are...I also refused to let him "take a puff" just for funzies cuz he was "curious" as a child. Oh hayell no.

He never became a smoker either.

So...yall do what you think is fine for your family, but my opinion is...that woman is an idiot. Double idiot, for putting it on face book.

 

[Politico]

I'm not sure if this is due to Liberal Idiocy (99% reliable prediction) or old Southern dry-town types of laws brought about by Bible thumpers:

According to police, Patricia Denault poured herself a shot of Fireball cinnamon whiskey and took a picture of her son taking a sip. She posted that picture on Facebook, but someone saw that picture and called the police.

"Me taking a picture and putting it on Facebook, I thought it was funny," Denault said.

Denault was arrested on Wednesday, charged with child neglect after she said three uniformed officers and Child Protective Services came to her house and interviewed her kids.

The mother reportedly told police officers that she wanted her children, including the seven-year-old son featured in the Facebook photos, to “experience alcohol in a controlled setting.”
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Here's the law. Draconian nanny-stating.

A parent or guardian may not give a child alcohol, even at home. If they do they will be subjected to prosecution under Florida Statutes, Section 562.11. That Section makes it unlawful for any person to sell, give, serve, or permit to be served alcohol to any person under the age of 21. It does not make an exception for parents or guardians. If a parent or guardian provides alcohol to a child, the parent or guardian could be subjected to prosecution under Florida Statutes, Section 562.11 for the misdemeanor offense of Selling, Giving, or Serving Alcoholic Beverages to a Person Under Age 21, punishable by up to 60 days in jail and a $500.00 fine, and/or under Section 827.04 for the misdemeanor offense of contributing to the delinquency of a child, punishable by up to one year in jail and a $1000.00 fine.​

Assuming there really isn't anything else going on, her desire to develop and guide her children's exposure to alcohol rather than leaving that mission up to her children's peers and the media is admirable. That's exactly how both my wife and I were raised and it's exactly what we're doing with our kids.

If you are stupid enough to use Facebook you get what is coming to you. Florida has nothing to do with it.

 

[NoNukes]

The kid was seven years old.

So? That taste of whiskey probably put him off booze for a good decade, I'd bet.

I wouldn't have followed her strategy, but I defend her right to do what is best for her kids, and offloading alcohol instruction to your kid's friends is negligent parenting.

So, you think that you only have to abide by the laws that you agree with?

 

[Rikurzhen]

The kid was seven years old.

So? That taste of whiskey probably put him off booze for a good decade, I'd bet.

I wouldn't have followed her strategy, but I defend her right to do what is best for her kids, and offloading alcohol instruction to your kid's friends is negligent parenting.

So, you think that you only have to abide by the laws that you agree with?

 

[Pennywise]

She is an idiot.

More for the FB post than the alcohol. why the fuck do people these days think everyone wants to know their daily shit minute by minute?

 

[Jarlaxle]

She gave a seven year old alcohol. Would you still defend her if she gave her son a cigarette?

Stupid comparison even by your low standards! And news flash: that used to be common! Hell, my grandmother was having (watered) wine with dinner by age seven! (I suspect many French children still are.) I'd say age seven was about when I had my first sip of Champagne at New Year's.

 

[boedicca]

If you are stupid enough to use Facebook you get what is coming to you. Florida has nothing to do with it.

Friends don't let friends use Facebook.

 

[Swagger]

Must've been about eight when I first tasted beer.

 

[Swagger]

She gave a seven year old alcohol. Would you still defend her if she gave her son a cigarette?

Stupid comparison even by your low standards! And news flash: that used to be common! Hell, my grandmother was having (watered) wine with dinner by age seven! (I suspect many French children still are.) I'd say age seven was about when I had my first sip of Champagne at New Year's.

This is a rumour most likely started by the English. I've been to France more times than I can count, contract for a French construction company (Bouygues) and socialise with their staff. Of all the French people I've met, none of them have confirmed that French parents give their children small measures of red wine at dinner.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Stupid comparison even by your low standards! And news flash: that used to be common! Hell, my grandmother was having (watered) wine with dinner by age seven! (I suspect many French children still are.) I'd say age seven was about when I had my first sip of Champagne at New Year's.

This is a rumour most likely started by the English. I've been to France more times than I can count, contract for a French construction company (Bouygues) and socialise with their staff. Of all the French people I've met, none of them have confirmed that French parents give their children small measures of red wine at dinner.

No, it is a FACT confirmed by my grandmother, whose parents were born and raised in France.

 

[Swagger]

Stupid comparison even by your low standards! And news flash: that used to be common! Hell, my grandmother was having (watered) wine with dinner by age seven! (I suspect many French children still are.) I'd say age seven was about when I had my first sip of Champagne at New Year's.

This is a rumour most likely started by the English. I've been to France more times than I can count, contract for a French construction company (Bouygues) and socialise with their staff. Of all the French people I've met, none of them have confirmed that French parents give their children small measures of red wine at dinner.

No, it is a FACT confirmed by my grandmother, whose parents were born and raised in France.

So based on something your grandmother told you, you believe that every day small children are allowed to drink wine at dinner?

 

[Jarlaxle]

She was. Everyone she knew was. Her children were. The children of most people she knew were.

So in a word: YEP!