biggest factor in climate uncertainty

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    Nature | News

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    Politics is biggest factor in climate uncertainty

    Delaying action on emissions will increase costs and reduce chances of limiting temperature increase.

    ... results, published today in Nature1, contradict claims that governments should delay action on climate change until scientific certainty further improves. They also imply that speeding up action could lead to significant cost savings.
    Joeri Rogelj, a climate-policy analyst at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, and his colleagues assessed the relative importance of four major sources of uncertainty in limiting the rise in global average temperatures. These were political uncertainty regarding when a coordinated global climate policy might be achieved; scientific uncertainty over how much the Earth will warm in response to emissions; social uncertainty about future energy demand; and technological uncertainty regarding the availability of emissions-reduction technologies...

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    NatureDOI:doi:10.1038/nature.2013.12138
    References

    1. Rogelj, J., McCollum, D. L., Reisinger, A., Meinshausen, M. & Riahi, K. Nature 493, 79–83 (2013).
    2. Hatfield-Dodds, S. Nature 493, 35–36 (2013).
     
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    The fact is we don't know, but we know we are making the world hotter. The reality deals with planet sensitivity. How do you know that factor?
     
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    The green movement is propaganda from corporations that do not want to change their ways.

    Statistically speaking, even if every person in the world went completely 'green', even if we stopped using cars and held in our farts and bought all of the special 'green' products like the fancy lightbulbs and such, it would reduce global warming by a seriously small margin because it is the unregulated smokestacks of factories that are causing the problem, or the fact that the energy that it takes to make a laptop is more energy than it will ever use in it's life. These things are the issue...not us, and sadly, since we have inverted totalitarianism system, these things cannot be addressed.
     
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    It isn't a green movement and you should subtract jesus from your name.

    Have any of you FOOLS studied science? I have.
     
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    my name is supposed to be "jesuswasanihilist" but that was too long.


    And please elaborate on what is and isn't a green movement in the context of your remark, kthanks.
     
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    You can do what you what, but Jesus is a name I respect. That's my LORD.
     
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    Thats not the part I asked you to elaborate on buddy boy.
     
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    Just an old man wanting to take care of his six kids and grandchildren, along with a planet we have to live on!

    How many kids do you have?
     
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    How is that disrespectful?

    ni·hil·ism (n-lzm, n-)
    n.
    1. Philosophy
    a. An extreme form of skepticism that denies all existence.
    b. A doctrine holding that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated.
    2. Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief.
    3. The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.
     
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    If your Spanish, it isn't.

    It's a name I revere.
     

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