There is no conspiracy.

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    They want you to think that there are conspiracies. They are making an active effort to make you think that there are conspiracies.

    They hope, by making you believe in conspiracies, to make you paranoid and fearful, so that they can use your fear and your paranoia to deceive and manipulate you.
     
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    Soooo... there are no conspiracies, and we know that because conspirators are conspiring to sell belief in conspiracies, thereby proving there are no conspiracies, and said conspirators that sold those conspiracies, do not exist, and it's a conspiracy to suggest that they do.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Kind of, you know, sounds like—a conspiracy.
     
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    Who is "they"? Is "they" a secret organization?
     
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    If you look at the core of MOST conspiracy theories, they START because the govt does a poor job of reporting their findings, or is evasive on some details.

    MOST folks just chalk this up to lack of motivation, or the general shoddy way most of the govt handles EVERYTHING. But some folks don't get that. And expect to have access to every piddling detail. And voila, the small crack opens for a lot of hot air to breeze thru it.

    Like having the freaking NSA construct a literal cartoon for the downing of Flt 800. Now NSA business is not making cartoons or investigating air crashes -- I can assure you of that. But maybe, possibly, some group at NSA just happened to submit it to the FAA/NTSB. But it LOOKS quite suspicious. And the Fed govt works and acts in mysterious, suspicious ways some times. You should read that as ineptness and lack of motivation to do that extra tad of excellence in ANSWERING QUESTIONS from the press AND the public.

    Probably should be an office that coordinates all the spokespeople that the agencies have and post a FAQ section on the most asked questions.

    But that would be TOO obviously beneficial to establishing trust with the public.

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    Most Conspiracies involve ignoring the actual investigations and the actual evidence and making up your own.

    From Truthers to Flat Earthers to Birthers, its the same 'ignore and imagine' schtick.
     
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    Uncle Ferd thinks dey's a conspiracy...

    ... `cause none o' the womens inna neighborhood...

    ... is givin' him any nookie.
     
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    There's always a hole or holes in the investigations that breed conspiracies. There's never a perceived need by the lazy govt to address them. Like that big metal door that the Texas Rangers swore was intact at the remains of the Waco Mt Carmel site and the FBI says "they lost". Prime evidence of who fired first. Or the morgue room that "lost power" with the remains of the bodies from the final raid that "lost power" long enough to destroy the bodies from autopsy.

    The case of the Las Vegas shooting may be an indication that this happens more often and blatantly. Because we STILL don't know jack about the actual details.

    Usually the Occam's razor says just plain govt inattention and incompetence. But some people just can't stop there.
     
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    Its not 'holes', its a willingness to replace ignorance with imagination. Under the most controlled laboratory conditions, there will always be unexplained factors. Things that happen for reasons we don't have enough evidence to describe. In real world events happening without those controls, most of what happens will be unexplained.

    And is in these voids that conspiracy theories breed like cockroaches. As their theorists will happily make up fantasies for which there is no evidence. And even more eagerly ignore evidence that contradicts them.

    Take the Birther conspiracy. There's as much evidence that Obama was born IN ORBIT as born in Kenya. The State of Hawaii has affirmed Obama's birth place in Hawaii repeatedly. There are documents that the State provided. There are birth announcements. There are hospital names.

    Obama's place of birth was more thoroughly established than any president in *history*.

    Yet the Birthers ignored the evidence and literally made up a story that should begin with 'Once Upon A Time'. Imagining international flights for which there is no record, cross country trips for which there is no funding, foreign births for which there is no record, and elaborate international conspiracies spanning 50 years for all the original vital records and evidence of Obama's Hawaiian birth. All backed by nothing.

    Ignore and imagine. Its the right and left hand of every conspiracy you've ever heard of.
     
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    The logic behind debunking conspiracies never happens with AGW.
    Why is that?
    Conspiracies cant happen dealing with a corrupt govt but scientists cant fill in holes with imagination? WTF
     
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