The world leaping ahead of us, the U.S. still has no fast trains.

[Unkotare]

 

[the other mike]

Several fossil fuel trolls here.

 

[westwall]

Several fossil fuel trolls here.

Instead of calling people trolls, try educating yourself. High speed trains work in very selective regions. Just having one to say you have it is just stupid.

The train they are talking about for California is an outright fraud. It goes from nowhere, to nowhere. And, it isn't even fast.

 

[james bond]

ll of those combined don't close to that which has been wasted on just the failed California high-speed rail to date much less completing the boondoggle.

It's coming to Abu Dhabi/Dubai and China first. California later.

Saudi Arabia's bullet trains have been completed for several years. now.

Bullet trains are old technology for Californians. We are waiting for the the hyperloop -- Hyperloop Transportation Technologies | HyperloopTT.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Several fossil fuel trolls here.

Instead of calling people trolls, try educating yourself. High speed trains work in very selective regions. Just having one to say you have it is just stupid.

The train they are talking about for California is an outright fraud. It goes from nowhere, to nowhere. And, it isn't even fast.

Everyone that knows anything abut rail knew the California High Speed Rail could not meet the promised performance. Given the topography of the route it would have to exceed 450 mph on the flat sections of the route AND tunnel under mountains that have active fault lines running through them. Instead of just being realistic, the corrupt fools running things kept changing the system in violation of the proposition to where even if it is completed as now designed, it will be slower than the 1940's Southern Pacific Coast Daylight powered by a steam engine. It's always been a boondoggle and always will be.

 

[westwall]

ll of those combined don't close to that which has been wasted on just the failed California high-speed rail to date much less completing the boondoggle.

It's coming to Abu Dhabi/Dubai and China first. California later.

Saudi Arabia's bullet trains have been completed for several years. now.

Train. Singular. And it is not even designed for locals to use.

The Haramain high-speed railway connects the King Abdulaziz International Airport to King Abdullah Economic City, then onwards to Medina and Mecca.

It was not made for use by the citizens, but by the tend of millions that arrive each year on pilgrimages. In essence, think of it as a more impressive theme park ride, like the Disneyland Monorail. It does not even connect to the Mecca Metro system, it is entirely built for tourists.

Right... phase one.

Haramain high-speed railway - Wikipedia

Haramain High Speed Railway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Haramain high-speed railway (Haramain referring to Mecca and Medina Islamic holy cities), also known as the Western railway or Mecca–Medina high-speed railway, is a 453-kilometre-long (281 mi) high-speed rail line in Saudi Arabia. It links the Muslim holy cities of Medina and Mecca via King Abdullah Economic City, using 449.2 kilometres (279.1 mi) of main line and a 3.75-kilometre (2.33 mi) br…

You claimed they were already built.

Stop lying.

 

[the other mike]

We'll have high speed rail when China builds it for us.

 

[westwall]

We'll have high speed rail when China builds it for us.

Once again, why build something that isn't needed?

 

[the other mike]

We'll have high speed rail when China builds it for us.

Once again, why build something that isn't needed?

They'll wait until after we've bankrupted ourselves at war with Russia and the ME and hyperinflation makes gasoline unaffordable.

You gonna drive from Atlanta to Dallas
when gas is $15 a gallon or take the train and save $200 ?

 

[westwall]

We'll have high speed rail when China builds it for us.

Once again, why build something that isn't needed?

They'll wait until after we've bankrupted ourselves at war with Russia and the ME and hyperinflation makes gasoline unaffordable.

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

 

[the other mike]

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

We build a lot of things that aren't needed.
The airlines are all in debt...who's subsidizing them ?

 

[Unkotare]

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

We build a lot of things that aren't needed.
The airlines are all in debt...who's subsidizing them ?

Seriously? THAT is your justification?

 

[westwall]

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

We build a lot of things that aren't needed.
The airlines are all in debt...who's subsidizing them ?

Soooo, you want to cause all sorts of environmental destruction, waste trillions of dollars, all because the airlines got fucked over by the government?

 

[Unkotare]

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

We build a lot of things that aren't needed.
The airlines are all in debt...who's subsidizing them ?

Soooo, you want to cause all sorts of environmental destruction, waste trillions of dollars, all because the airlines got fucked over by the government?

A classic case of "I wanna, I wanna, I wanna!" liberal reasoning.

 

[the other mike]

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

We build a lot of things that aren't needed.
The airlines are all in debt...who's subsidizing them ?

Soooo, you want to cause all sorts of environmental destruction, waste trillions of dollars, all because the airlines got fucked over by the government?

It wouldn't cost TRILLIONS, first of all, but since you guys like pulling that number out of your asses, why do you never bitch when it's the Pentagon budget ? Or subsidies for nuclear plants that NEVER turn a profit, or when BP or Exxon walk from environmental accountabilty. ?

 

[the other mike]

Overlooking all the negative comments from the obvious fossil fuel advocates, back in the real world ;

 

[the other mike]

waste trillions of dollars,

btw
We are $28.5 trillion in debt with NOTHING special to show for it. In fact we barely make the top 20 'happy countries' list.

 

[westwall]

waste trillions of dollars,

btw
We are $28.5 trillion in debt with NOTHING special to show for it. In fact we barely make the top 20 'happy countries' list.

The happy countries lists are propaganda. Take a look at those happy countries and see how many people are trying to move to those places, rather than here.

 

[westwall]

You still haven't explained why we should build something that isn't needed.

We build a lot of things that aren't needed.
The airlines are all in debt...who's subsidizing them ?

Soooo, you want to cause all sorts of environmental destruction, waste trillions of dollars, all because the airlines got fucked over by the government?

It wouldn't cost TRILLIONS, first of all, but since you guys like pulling that number out of your asses, why do you never bitch when it's the Pentagon budget ? Or subsidies for nuclear plants that NEVER turn a profit, or when BP or Exxon walk from environmental accountabilty. ?

Yes, it would. Good gosh, dude. Cali has already spent billions and has zero to show for it.

It's a FRAUD!

 

[the other mike]

The happy countries lists are propaganda. Take a look at those happy countries and see how many people are trying to move to those places, rather than here.

Probably so.
The happiest are the rich who live in more than one country, like Canada in the summer, Jamaica in the winter ...a spare home in Aspen for whenever.