The world consensus about anthropogenic climate change

[Big Fitz]

The three stages of AGW denial

1. Global warming ... its not happening ... BUT IF IT IS - we have nothing to do with it!

2. Global warming ... we have nothing to do with it ... BUT IF WE DO - its beneficial!

3. Global warming ... its beneficial ... BUT IF IT ISN'T - its too late to do anything about it anyway!


You're at #2

ooOOOOooo! Look who found new talking points on his 'vacation'.

Fritz, have you ever considered taking a science course? How about geology? Chemistry? Physics? Any or all would vastly improve your present state of ignorance.

Took enough college level earth science course to know you're full of shit crocks. Even if I don't get my jollies going after greenporn articles like they're really science and chock full of truthiness, I can smell BS.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The three stages of AGW denial

1. Global warming ... its not happening ... BUT IF IT IS - we have nothing to do with it!

2. Global warming ... we have nothing to do with it ... BUT IF WE DO - its beneficial!

3. Global warming ... its beneficial ... BUT IF IT ISN'T - its too late to do anything about it anyway!


You're at #2

ooOOOOooo! Look who found new talking points on his 'vacation'.

Fritz, have you ever considered taking a science course? How about geology? Chemistry? Physics? Any or all would vastly improve your present state of ignorance.

I've taken 2 terms of Geology each with A's and Chemistry. I'm going to transfer and major in Meteorology because I like it the best. I've been watching weather from the climate to hurricanes for most of my 24 years on earth. Also, I more or less get excited and get my kicks out of seeing hurricanes slam into the shoreline, and would get that rush through seeing global warming. Hell, I hope you global warmers are right. We weather people get our high out of it, just like sky divers get theirs out of jumping out of planes.

 

[code1211]

If it stops or modifies a full blown ice age that we where starting to slip back into over the last few thousand years. Then whats the hay? I mean that would be wonderful because a full on ice age would kill billions of humans. Seriously, would you rather live like a king with human induced climate change of some kind or would you rather have another full blown ice age.

YES the level of co2 is rising and a warmer ocean=less able to hold the co2, but we humans if you global warmers are "right"(In which I kind of doubt) then good for humanity. In my opinion we're just in a warm period not unlike the med evil warm period and could go into another little ice age or a full blown within the next few hundred years with all I know.

If your right and this is stopping another full blown ice age. Humanity just scored and won the fucking jackpot.

The three stages of AGW denial

1. Global warming ... its not happening ... BUT IF IT IS - we have nothing to do with it!

2. Global warming ... we have nothing to do with it ... BUT IF WE DO - its beneficial!

3. Global warming ... its beneficial ... BUT IF IT ISN'T - its too late to do anything about it anyway!


You're at #2

What stage am I at?

The climate has warmed by 0.7 degrees across the last 2000 years. The climate has cooled by 1.0 degrees across the last 8000 years. The climate has vascillated within a 2 degree range for about 12,000 years and we are currently smack dab in the middle of that range.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The world consensus about anthropogenic climate change
blah blah blah

I have a theory , Do you believe Islam has been distorted and the acts of 911 are unislamic ?

 

[Big Fitz]

ooOOOOooo! Look who found new talking points on his 'vacation'.

Fritz, have you ever considered taking a science course? How about geology? Chemistry? Physics? Any or all would vastly improve your present state of ignorance.

I've taken 2 terms of Geology each with A's and Chemistry. I'm going to transfer and major in Meteorology because I like it the best. I've been watching weather from the climate to hurricanes for most of my 24 years on earth. Also, I more or less get excited and get my kicks out of seeing hurricanes slam into the shoreline, and would get that rush through seeing global warming. Hell, I hope you global warmers are right. We weather people get our high out of it, just like sky divers get theirs out of jumping out of planes.

"When you used to say you chased tornadoes, deep down I used to believe that was just a metaphor." Melissa from Twister

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"It becomes important to determine the source of the increase in CO2 from 280 to 380 parts per million by volume between 1800 and 2005."

One small problem.

In the year 1800, the best they could do was measure in part per 10,000, so the 280PPM in the year 1800 is a fucking joke.

A rounding error of even 1 part per 10,000 is equal to 30% of the baseline.

What a joke

 

[SpidermanTuba]

"It becomes important to determine the source of the increase in CO2 from 280 to 380 parts per million by volume between 1800 and 2005."

One small problem.

In the year 1800, the best they could do was measure in part per 10,000, so the 280PPM in the year 1800 is a fucking joke.

A rounding error of even 1 part per 10,000 is equal to 30% of the baseline.

What a joke

We can measure it today with trapped air samples from 1800.

 

[RollingThunder]

The only part of this that is factual is that yes indeed the forests are being destroyed as I have stated many imes in the past. All of the rest is garbage.

LOLOLOL. You still imagine that anyone just takes your word for it on anything? LOL. No, little wallbanger, you have to do better than just saying that it's all garbage. You haven't offered anything to refute the statement that the oceans are now absorbing less CO2 and will absorb even less in the future or the statement that the oceans are becoming warmer and more CO2 saturated or the statement that the oceans will probably become net CO2 emitters as they warm up more. Once again you spew ignorant drivel and lies and can't back them up with any scientific evidence. You are a denier cult troll and your posts are worthless propaganda empty of any substance.


LOLOLOLOLOL....my vocabulary??? LOLOLOLOL. You have done nothing but let people know what an ignorant lying denier cult troll you are. You have nothing to back up your delusions but more hot air.

And here is a link to your supposed ocean CO2 problem. Read it and then report to the class what you learned.

CO2 Pollution and Global Warming: When does carbon dioxide become a pollutant? (EnvironmentalChemistry.com)

That's a good article that doesn't support your delusions at all. Just the opposite. I've learned that you are a foolish troll who understands so little about this that you post links to articles that support your debate opponent's position instead of your own.

Here's two excerpts from the article you cited:

"No one would argue the fact that carbon dioxide is a necessary component of the atmosphere any more than one would argue the fact that Vitamin D is necessary in the human diet. However, excess Vitamin D in the diet can be extremely toxic (6). Living systems, be they an ecosystem or an organism, require that a delicate balance be maintained between certain elements and/or compounds in order for the system to function normally. When one substance is present in excess and as a result threatens the wellbeing of an ecosystem, it becomes toxic, and could be considered to be a pollutant, despite the fact that it is required in small quantities."

"It becomes important to determine the source of the increase in CO2 from 280 to 380 parts per million by volume between 1800 and 2005.

Isotopes of carbon may hold a key to determining the source of the increased carbon in the atmosphere (4,5,7). The studies are based on the ratio of the three different carbon isotopes in atmospheric CO2. Carbon has three possible isotopes: C-12, C-13 and C-14. C-12, which has 6 neutrons, is by far the most prevalent carbon isotope and is a stable isotope. Carbon 13 is also a stable isotope, but plants prefer Carbon 12 and therefore photosynthetic CO2 (fossil fuel or wood fuels) is much lower in C-13 than CO2 that comes from other sources (e.g.: animal respiration) Carbon-14 is radioactive. Studies of carbon isotopes in CO2 has resulted in the following findings (5,7,8).

* There has been a decline in the 14C/12C ratio in CO2 that parallels the increase in CO2. In 1950 a scientist named Suess discovered that fossils do not contain 14C because they are much older than 10 half lives of 14C.
* There has been a parallel decline in 13C/12C ratio of atmospheric CO2. This has been linked to the fact that fossil fuels, forests and soil carbon come from photosynthetic carbon which is low in 13C. If the increased CO2 was due to warming of the oceans, there should not be a reduction in the ratios of C-13 and C-14 to C-12.

There are other clues that suggest the source of increased CO2 is not related to the warming of the ocean and subsequent release of CO2 from the ocean.

* There has been a decline in the oxygen concentration of the atmosphere. If ocean warming was responsible for the CO2 increase, we should also observe an increase in atmospheric O2, because O2 is also released as the water is warmed.
* The ocean is a sink for atmospheric carbon, and the carbon content of the oceans has increased by 118±19 PgC in the last 200 years. If the atmospheric CO2 was the result of oceans releasing CO2 to the atmosphere, the CO2 in the ocean should not be rising as a result of ocean warming. "

Hey old fraud/trolling blunder/and whoever else you create to support you hysterical screaming, it's over, you lost, go away.

LOL. What a typical troll response when your bullshit gets demolished and you're shown to be a fool. Change the subject, claim victory and run away. LOLOLOL.

 

[RollingThunder]

If it stops or modifies a full blown ice age that we where starting to slip back into over the last few thousand years. Then whats the hay? I mean that would be wonderful because a full on ice age would kill billions of humans. Seriously, would you rather live like a king with human induced climate change of some kind or would you rather have another full blown ice age.

YES the level of co2 is rising and a warmer ocean=less able to hold the co2, but we humans if you global warmers are "right"(In which I kind of doubt) then good for humanity. In my opinion we're just in a warm period not unlike the med evil warm period and could go into another little ice age or a full blown within the next few hundred years with all I know.

If your right and this is stopping another full blown ice age. Humanity just scored and won the fucking jackpot.

The three stages of AGW denial

1. Global warming ... its not happening ... BUT IF IT IS - we have nothing to do with it!

2. Global warming ... we have nothing to do with it ... BUT IF WE DO - its beneficial!

3. Global warming ... its beneficial ... BUT IF IT ISN'T - its too late to do anything about it anyway!


You're at #2

What stage am I at?

Pretentious science poseur bullshitter? That would be my guess.

The climate has warmed by 0.7 degrees across the last 2000 years. The climate has cooled by 1.0 degrees across the last 8000 years. The climate has vascillated(sic) within a 2 degree range for about 12,000 years and we are currently smack dab in the middle of that range.

What's your source for those figures? Or did you just pull 'em out of your ass?

My sources say different. They say there's been about a half a degree C variation up and down from the median for the last ten thousand years and we are now on a temperature trend leading to average temperatures that the Earth has not seen in millions of years.

 

[ScienceRocks]

If 1998 is not beaten to the fucking ground by a new king of hottest year in recorded history within the next 5 years, then I'm going to laugh(GOING TO GET PISSED OFF IN PUNCH THE WALL). If we're getting more forcing through co2 shouldn't we not be trending upwards in global temperatures. I don't mean every year in and year out being a new record, but once every 5-10 years would be nice. Your talking 4-6c based on most global warming forecast within 90 years forecast by 2100, but that is 90 years and you're going to have to get there without the highest level of solar output in 2,000 years. I could see .5c of a degree of warming, but anymore then that? Not going to happen unless something big happens like the methane within the arctic thaws and goes crazy. That is the only way I see more then 1c of warming over the next 90 years. Being that we've warmed out of the little ice age and we supposed to be slipping back into a glacial period within the next few thousand years...It will be a challenge.

RollingThunder:
Most of the med evil warm period maps I've ever seen show it to be close to what we have today, also 115,000 years ago is also noted as close to today. But I would say that another .5c of warming would easily put us over the med evil warm period. I have to admit that this is one of the most impressive interglacial periods within the last 2 million years and boy did humanity get lucky to be within it. Humanity would of never developed like we have without it. One of the people that I believe made that is MANN, which got caught with the hockey stick and the IPCC thrown it out(at least I believe so). Most others I've ever seen show as I said above. At least equal to todays levels. If we go any warmer then sure you may have a point.

 

[westwall]

LOLOLOL. You still imagine that anyone just takes your word for it on anything? LOL. No, little wallbanger, you have to do better than just saying that it's all garbage. You haven't offered anything to refute the statement that the oceans are now absorbing less CO2 and will absorb even less in the future or the statement that the oceans are becoming warmer and more CO2 saturated or the statement that the oceans will probably become net CO2 emitters as they warm up more. Once again you spew ignorant drivel and lies and can't back them up with any scientific evidence. You are a denier cult troll and your posts are worthless propaganda empty of any substance.


LOLOLOLOLOL....my vocabulary??? LOLOLOLOL. You have done nothing but let people know what an ignorant lying denier cult troll you are. You have nothing to back up your delusions but more hot air.




That's a good article that doesn't support your delusions at all. Just the opposite. I've learned that you are a foolish troll who understands so little about this that you post links to articles that support your debate opponent's position instead of your own.

Here's two excerpts from the article you cited:

"No one would argue the fact that carbon dioxide is a necessary component of the atmosphere any more than one would argue the fact that Vitamin D is necessary in the human diet. However, excess Vitamin D in the diet can be extremely toxic (6). Living systems, be they an ecosystem or an organism, require that a delicate balance be maintained between certain elements and/or compounds in order for the system to function normally. When one substance is present in excess and as a result threatens the wellbeing of an ecosystem, it becomes toxic, and could be considered to be a pollutant, despite the fact that it is required in small quantities."

"It becomes important to determine the source of the increase in CO2 from 280 to 380 parts per million by volume between 1800 and 2005.

Isotopes of carbon may hold a key to determining the source of the increased carbon in the atmosphere (4,5,7). The studies are based on the ratio of the three different carbon isotopes in atmospheric CO2. Carbon has three possible isotopes: C-12, C-13 and C-14. C-12, which has 6 neutrons, is by far the most prevalent carbon isotope and is a stable isotope. Carbon 13 is also a stable isotope, but plants prefer Carbon 12 and therefore photosynthetic CO2 (fossil fuel or wood fuels) is much lower in C-13 than CO2 that comes from other sources (e.g.: animal respiration) Carbon-14 is radioactive. Studies of carbon isotopes in CO2 has resulted in the following findings (5,7,8).

* There has been a decline in the 14C/12C ratio in CO2 that parallels the increase in CO2. In 1950 a scientist named Suess discovered that fossils do not contain 14C because they are much older than 10 half lives of 14C.
* There has been a parallel decline in 13C/12C ratio of atmospheric CO2. This has been linked to the fact that fossil fuels, forests and soil carbon come from photosynthetic carbon which is low in 13C. If the increased CO2 was due to warming of the oceans, there should not be a reduction in the ratios of C-13 and C-14 to C-12.

There are other clues that suggest the source of increased CO2 is not related to the warming of the ocean and subsequent release of CO2 from the ocean.

* There has been a decline in the oxygen concentration of the atmosphere. If ocean warming was responsible for the CO2 increase, we should also observe an increase in atmospheric O2, because O2 is also released as the water is warmed.
* The ocean is a sink for atmospheric carbon, and the carbon content of the oceans has increased by 118±19 PgC in the last 200 years. If the atmospheric CO2 was the result of oceans releasing CO2 to the atmosphere, the CO2 in the ocean should not be rising as a result of ocean warming. "

Hey old fraud/trolling blunder/and whoever else you create to support you hysterical screaming, it's over, you lost, go away.

LOL. What a typical troll response when your bullshit gets demolished and you're shown to be a fool. Change the subject, claim victory and run away. LOLOLOL.

Really? That's the best you can do? High schoolers can insult better than this blunder. Try again.

 

[RollingThunder]

Here's another part of the world scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming/climate change. One of the more ridiculous of the myths that the denier cultists believe in and try to sell is the myth that carbon dioxide isn't really a greenhouse gas and doesn't really trap more heat in the Earth's atmosphere. Since the effects of excess CO2 in the air are scientifically matters of chemistry and physics, let's see what the American Chemical Society has to say.

Global Climate Change

ACS Statement on Global Climate Change(pdf)

Summary

The ACS statement on global climate change reviews the science and recommends action on global climate issues.

ACS Position

Careful and comprehensive scientific assessments have clearly demonstrated that the Earth’s climate system is changing rapidly in response to growing atmospheric burdens of greenhouse gases and absorbing aerosol particles (IPCC, 2007). There is very little room for doubt that observed climate trends are due to human activities. The threats are serious and action is urgently needed to mitigate the risks of climate change.

The reality of global warming, its current serious and potentially disastrous impacts on Earth system properties, and the key role emissions from human activities play in driving these phenomena have been recognized by earlier versions of this ACS policy statement (ACS, 2004), by other major scientific societies, including the American Geophysical Union (AGU, 2003), the American Meteorological Society (AMS, 2007) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS, 2007), and by the U. S. National Academies and ten other leading national academies of science (NA, 2005). This statement reviews key global climate change impacts and recommends actions required to mitigate or adapt to currently anticipated consequences.

Climate Change Impacts

The effects of projected unmitigated climate change on key Earth system components, ecological systems and human society over the next fifty years will be profound and, quite possibly, irreversible (IPCC, 2007). Higher surface temperatures will severely impact many land-based life forms, damaging vulnerable ecosystems and endangering key plant and animal species. Sea level is rising and the ocean is acidifying; the first threatens coastal habitations and ecosystems, the second will have profound effects on marine ecosystems. Snowfall and snowmelt patterns are changing and rainfall patterns may also be unstable, threatening fresh water supplies in vulnerable regions. Increases in severe weather events are very likely, with increasing damage due to floods, drought, and heat waves. We are, in effect, in the midst of a vast experiment with the Earth’s climate—with uncertain, but likely quite unpleasant, outcomes.

The costs of unchecked climate change in economic loss, human misery, and loss of ecosystem services are likely to be enormous. The United Nations Environment Programme estimated that climate change could cost world gross domestic product from $150 to $300 billion annually unless strong efforts are made by developed and developing nations to curb greenhouse gas emissions (UNEP, 2002). More recently, the Stern Review suggested that: "the overall costs and risks of climate change will be equivalent to losing at least 5% of global GDP [ca. $2 trillion] each year, now and forever" (Stern, 2007). Additional costs due to climate driven increases of refugees, illness, malnutrition, and conflicts over water, energy and food resources could easily dwarf the more easily estimated GDP losses. The costs of lost ecosystem services are difficult to compute, but may ultimately threaten the planet's capacity to sustain the current, much less the projected, population density (Daily et al, 2000).
Recommendations

1. Earth Systems Science

Successfully addressing the challenges of global climate change requires enhanced understanding of Earth system dynamics. Climate change is a very complex phenomenon involving the coupled physical, chemical and biological processes affecting the atmosphere, land surfaces and the oceans. The U.S. has been a leader in Earth system and climate change research, but funding for these activities has dropped dramatically over the past five years, slowing progress in vital areas of atmospheric chemistry, dynamics and radiation transport, cloud and aerosol chemistry and physics, ocean biogeochemistry and dynamics, glacial, ice cap and sea ice dynamics, hydrology, ecology, soil microbiology, multi-scale Earth system modeling and other key disciplines. The ability to quantify trends in climate parameters and resulting impacts on geological and ecological systems will require the enhancement and maintenance of sophisticated Earth observation satellites as well comprehensive in situ atmospheric, oceanic and ecological sensor systems.

Recommendation 1 - Re-invigorate and fully fund a comprehensive U.S. research program...(go to website for the rest)

2. Greenhouse Gas Emission Reduction

Progress to reduce U.S. and global greenhouse gas emissions to mitigate the scale and impact of accelerating climate change must start now using current technological capabilities. Opportunities to reduce CO2 emissions include enhanced fuel economy for on-road and off road vehicles, better insulated and more efficiently heated and cooled buildings, more efficient lighting, and more convenient and available mass transit.

Opportunities also exist to reduce CO2 emissions from fossil fuel combustion by substituting more sustainable biomass based fuels and by adopting non-combustion energy sources based on solar thermal, solar photovoltaic, wind, or tidal power. Successful deployment of enhanced energy conservation and fossil fuel substitution technologies will be expedited by increased research and development funding and shifts in government subsidies and incentives away from fossil fuel producers and users and to energy conservation efforts and more sustainable energy sources. Coal-fueled and nuclear electrical power generation systems may also be part of CO2 reduction strategies if effective and economic means to sequester CO2 emissions from coal combustion or advanced coal processing are developed for the former and if fuel diversion, spent fuel disposal, and power plant security issues are resolved for the latter.

Successful efforts to reduce petroleum and natural gas consumption through conservation or sustainable-fuel substitution will not only reduce net CO2 emissions, but also reduce reliance on fuel sources that are increasingly insecure for both economic and geopolitical reasons. Reduction in reliance on combustion driven energy systems will also contribute to both better air quality and reduced warming.

Many opportunities exist to reduce non-CO2 greenhouse emissions, including biogenic CH4 from landfills, agriculture and other land use practices and biogenic N2O from agricultural and non-agricultural fertilizer use, air pollutant deposition and waste disposal. Geological CH4 emissions associated with natural gas, petroleum and coal production, refining and distribution can also be reduced. Key knowledge needed to design, evaluate and implement better controls for theses non-CO2 greenhouse gases is likely to come from the enhanced Earth systems research called for in Recommendation 1. Reducing CH4 emissions also reduces secondary O3 and CO2 production and reducing N2O emissions reduces stratospheric ozone depletion.

It is certain that there will be no single solution to climate change challenges. Individual technologies may make more sense in particular situations or locales (e.g., solar or wind power). Others may merit national implementation (fuel efficiency standards). With adequate R&D funding, we may also be able to develop additional novel technologies and processes to mitigate climate change. For example, success in green chemistry and nanotechnology may dramatically reduce energy and materials use in the future. Several U.S. states and major municipalities have already set significant greenhouse reduction goals and implemented steps to meet them. The federal government needs to catch up with these forward-looking regions.

Enhanced research in the fields of energy efficiency and conservation, alternative and renewable energy sources, climate change adaptation, pollution prevention, and carbon sequestration also serves other important national goals, including economic prosperity, a high quality of life, and environmental protection. Developing and deploying these technologies will likely reduce energy costs, increase productivity, improve the nation’s energy independence, improve air and water quality, and reduce environmental hazards, in addition to reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

Recommendation 2a – The U.S. should immediately adopt nationwide goals for rapid and deep reductions in CO2 and other greenhouse gas emissions and develop effective economic drivers to achieve these goals. Options such as emission cap and trade regimes, carbon taxes, or emissions taxes need to be devised, tested and implemented on a national basis. The U.S. should work closely with all major greenhouse gas emitter nations to secure their commitment to similar greenhouse gas emission reductions.

(go to website for the rest)


Copyright ©2009 American Chemical Society

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

 

[gslack]

I got a list too...

I got mine from Chicago Carbon Exchange website... You know them they are the company Al Gore and Maurice strong are invested in... Strong being the President and former head of the UN environmental program as well...

Partners in CCX...

affiliated carbon exchanges...

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MCeX Launch
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In Development:

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Ethanol Production
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Financial Institutions
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Food and Agricultural Products & Services
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Forest Products
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Healthcare
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Manufacturing
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Municipalities
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Pharmaceuticals
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Real Estate Investment
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National Carbon Offset Coalition
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ProLogis Logistics Services, Inc.
Rajasthan Renewable Energy
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Ramakrishna Mission Ashrama
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Beijing Shenwu Thermal Energy
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Burnett Ranches, LLC
Cape May County Municipal
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CPI Carbon Asset Management Co., Ltd.
Cumberland County Improvement
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Dhariwal Industries Ltd.
Gazprom Marketing & Trading Ltd
Granger Holdings LLC
Lugar Stock Farm
Precious Woods Holding, Ltd
Public Utility District No 1 of
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Sexton Energy LLC
Tata Power Company Limited
TerraCarbon LLC
The Andhyodaya
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Brane Strom LLP
C-Quest Capital, LLC
CBp Carbon Industries, Inc.
Cargill Power Markets LLC
Chapel Street Environmental Fund,
LP
CoolPass, Inc.
Digilog Global Environmental
Master Fund Ltd
DRW Holdings LLC
Evolution Markets LLC
First Bank and Trust
First New York Securities LLC
Five Rings Capital LLC
Galtere International Master
Fund LP
GDF SUEZ Energy Marketing NA
Grand Slam Trading Inc.
Green Dragon Fund
Green Fund Partners LLC
Grey K Environmental Fund LP
Grey K Environmental
Offshore Fund Ltd.
Grey K Trading Limited
Haley Capital Management
ICAP Energy LLC
Infinium Capital Management LLC
Integrys Energy Services Inc
Ironworks Partners LP
J. Aron & Company
Jane Street Global Trading LLC
JP Morgan Ventures Energy
Corporation
Kellybrooke LLC
Koch Supply & Trading
Kottke Associates, LLC
Lehman Brother Commodity
Services Inc.
Marquette Partners, LP
Marsus Capital LLC
Matlock Research and
Investments
Newedge USA, LLC
Octavian Special Master Fund LP
Option Insight Partners
ORBEO
Penson GHCo
Peregrine Financial Group, Inc.
Rand Financial Services, Inc.
Royal Bank of Canada
SA Recovery, Inc.
Serrino Trading Company
Spectron Energy Services Limited
Stark Investments
TEP Trading 2 Ltd.
The League Corporation
TradeLink LLC
Tradition Financial Services Ltd.
TransMarket Group LLC
Universal Carbon Fund LLC
U.S. Energy Savings Corp.
Vitol, Inc.

Architecture/Planning
Mithun, Inc.
Perkins + Will, Inc.

Consulting
DOMANI LLC
First Environment, Inc.
Global Change Associates*
Natural Capitalism Solutions
RenewSource Partners LLC*
Rocky Mountain Institute*

Consumer Products
Collective Wellbeing LLC

Documentary Production
Cloverland Inc.*

Educational Institutions
Presidio School of Management*
Sidwell Friends School

Embassy
Embassy of Denmark, Washington
D.C.
Embassy of Finland

Energy Broker
Amerex Energy*

Energy Services
Bell Independent Power Corp.
Orion Energy Systems Ltd.
Prenova, Inc.
Sieben Energy Associates
Thermal Energy International

Energy Supplier
BlueStar Energy Services Inc.
MXenergy Holdings Inc.

Engineering
Rumsey Engineers*
Vanasse Hangen Brustlin, Inc.

Environmental Services
Resource Recycling Systems

Financial Services
Access Industries, Inc.*
G.C. Anderson Partners LLC
MB Investments LLC*
Wood Creek Capital Management
LLC

Financing Agency
Ohio Air Quality Development
Authority*

Food Services
Big Bowl Asian, LLC

Foundation
Nathan Cummings Foundation

Green Power Marketer
Green Mountain Energy Company*

Information Technology
Open Finance LLC
Intercontinental Exchange*

Legal Services
Foley & Lardner LLP*
Levenfeld Pearlstein LLC
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP

Non-Governmental Organization
ACORE*
Delta Institute
Houston Advanced Research
Center*
Midwest Energy Efficiency
Alliance
Rainforest Alliance
World Resources Institute*

Professional Associations
Confederation of British Industry*
The Professional Risk Managers'
International Association*

Real Estate
ProLogis Logistics Services, Inc.

Religious Organizations
Jesuit Community of Santa Clara
University

Renewable Energy
Airtricity Inc.*
American Renewable Energy*
Econergy International*
Reknewco Ltd.*

Retiring/Offsets
4Offsets, LLC
Carbonfund.org
Offset Collective, Inc.
TerraPass Inc.*

Social Investment
Generation Investment
Management LLP
KLD Research & Analytics*
Pax World*

Technology
Millennium Cell*
Polar Technology, LLC

Transportation Services
Valera Global Inc.

Wonder how many on my list and trollingblunders list match? LOL

My list was bigger!

 

[RollingThunder]

I got a list too...

I got mine from Chicago Carbon Exchange website... You know them they are the company Al Gore and Maurice strong are invested in... Strong being the President and former head of the UN environmental program as well...

Partners in CCX...

affiliated carbon exchanges...

My list was bigger!

LOLOLOLOL....yeah, 'bigger' and irrelevant and pointless. As might be expected from a truly retarded troll like you, slack-jawed.

 

[gslack]

I got a list too...

I got mine from Chicago Carbon Exchange website... You know them they are the company Al Gore and Maurice strong are invested in... Strong being the President and former head of the UN environmental program as well...

Partners in CCX...

affiliated carbon exchanges...

My list was bigger!

LOLOLOLOL....yeah, 'bigger' and irrelevant and pointless. As might be expected from a truly retarded troll like you, slack-jawed.

Oh I feel any market dedicated to trading carbon credits, chaired and invested by the ex VP and the former head of the UN environmental program, both of whom pushed and pressed for climate change legislation both national and internationally during their respective tenures is very relevant.... And only a tool socko would deny it..

 

[RollingThunder]

My list was bigger!

LOLOLOLOL....yeah, 'bigger' and irrelevant and pointless. As might be expected from a truly retarded troll like you, slack-jawed.

Oh I feel any market dedicated to trading carbon credits, chaired and invested by the ex VP and the former head of the UN environmental program, both of whom pushed and pressed for climate change legislation both national and internationally during their respective tenures is very relevant....

Yeah but the reason you "feel" that way is because you're a retarded ideologue with your head up your ass.

People who see the danger of anthropogenic global warming/climate change are trying to do something about it using the free market. Big whoop. Your paranoid denier cult delusions are too worthless to bother with.

 

[gslack]

LOLOLOLOL....yeah, 'bigger' and irrelevant and pointless. As might be expected from a truly retarded troll like you, slack-jawed.

Oh I feel any market dedicated to trading carbon credits, chaired and invested by the ex VP and the former head of the UN environmental program, both of whom pushed and pressed for climate change legislation both national and internationally during their respective tenures is very relevant....

Yeah but the reason you "feel" that way is because you're a retarded ideologue with your head up your ass.

People who see the danger of anthropogenic global warming/climate change are trying to do something about it using the free market. Big whoop. Your paranoid denier cult delusions are too worthless to bother with.

BLAH BLAH BL:AH......

All you do right there.... Cry and throw a hissy everytime you are busted... i noticed you and your pals no longer posting new threads.... LOL, whats the matter running out of reliable material??? LOL

yeah your BS is done and all you can do now is bet it all on the reactionary fear driven people watching the oil spill 24/7....

 

[RollingThunder]

Oh I feel any market dedicated to trading carbon credits, chaired and invested by the ex VP and the former head of the UN environmental program, both of whom pushed and pressed for climate change legislation both national and internationally during their respective tenures is very relevant....

Yeah but the reason you "feel" that way is because you're a retarded ideologue with your head up your ass.

People who see the danger of anthropogenic global warming/climate change are trying to do something about it using the free market. Big whoop. Your paranoid denier cult delusions are too worthless to bother with.

BLAH BLAH BL:AH......

All you do right there.... Cry and throw a hissy everytime you are busted... i noticed you and your pals no longer posting new threads.... LOL, whats the matter running out of reliable material??? LOL

yeah your BS is done and all you can do now is bet it all on the reactionary fear driven people watching the oil spill 24/7....

Yeah slack-jawed-troll, keep proclaiming that the Earth is flat. We'll see how that works out for you. LOLOLOLOL.

 

[gslack]

Yeah but the reason you "feel" that way is because you're a retarded ideologue with your head up your ass.

People who see the danger of anthropogenic global warming/climate change are trying to do something about it using the free market. Big whoop. Your paranoid denier cult delusions are too worthless to bother with.

BLAH BLAH BL:AH......

All you do right there.... Cry and throw a hissy everytime you are busted... i noticed you and your pals no longer posting new threads.... LOL, whats the matter running out of reliable material??? LOL

yeah your BS is done and all you can do now is bet it all on the reactionary fear driven people watching the oil spill 24/7....

Yeah slack-jawed-troll, keep proclaiming that the Earth is flat. We'll see how that works out for you. LOLOLOLOL.

HAHAHHAHAHHA! THanks for the admission on what I said about you...

 

[code1211]

LOLOLOLOL....yeah, 'bigger' and irrelevant and pointless. As might be expected from a truly retarded troll like you, slack-jawed.

Oh I feel any market dedicated to trading carbon credits, chaired and invested by the ex VP and the former head of the UN environmental program, both of whom pushed and pressed for climate change legislation both national and internationally during their respective tenures is very relevant....

Yeah but the reason you "feel" that way is because you're a retarded ideologue with your head up your ass.

People who see the danger of anthropogenic global warming/climate change are trying to do something about it using the free market. Big whoop. Your paranoid denier cult delusions are too worthless to bother with.

In the same manner as trading carbon credits, If i pay a really skinny person who has recently lost weight and I eat as much as I want, will I lose weight as a result?

So goes the logic of carbon credit trading.